| robottik |
That 0 to 60 thread got me thinking...
All other things equal, would you buy a 4-cylinder Pilot if say:
The 0-60 mph acceleration was 11 seconds, but the Pilot's mileage was better due to the smaller engine? :confused: |
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| waynerd |
| Honda does amazing things with little engines, but I don't think a 4 banger would have enough umph for a fully loaded Pilot to have much performance at all. The 6 cylinder still had (has?) more HP than the Ford Exploder V8, and maybe more peak torque if I'm not mistaken. T'ain't bad at all! |
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| fireflock |
No Way
The ability to tow a boat or a camper is a must for a vehicle like the Pilot |
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| dragoncoach |
| The Pilot is much too heavy to be powered by a 4 banger. If Honda put a 4 banger in, it would have to be quite large and have a lot of torque to push a 4300 lb. Pilot. |
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| ipomoea |
| If I am not mistaken, the next Pilot will have VCM as an option (or standard). Technically, you will have a Pilot with just 3 cylinders banging away at cruising speeds or at low engine loads. In terms of fuel economy, you will theoreticaly approach that of a 2.4 L 4 banger. And as always, YMMV.:4: |
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| krygny |
Missing poll option:
No. NO. NO! F#%K NO!! S#!T F&%KING NO!!! |
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| N_Jay |
All indications are that US buyers favor Power over Economy!
You can hope and wish, but sales figure (What people do vs. what they say) is hard evidence to ignore. |
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| BigDogDad |
quote:
Originally posted by krygny
Missing poll option:
No. NO. NO! F#%K NO!! S#!T F&%KING NO!!!
A little subtle, but that's the option I would have picked! |
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| GreenMachine |
No way.
That would be one painfully slow Pilot. Also, anyone with hill/mountains would hate all noise as that 4 cylinder would be pushing high rpm's to make it up those hills. |
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| cdfdale |
UGH...we had a Dodge Caravan with the "big" four in it once upon a time.
It was fine for around town but load it up and head out? "You gotta be kiddin' right?"
We live in an area that is surrounded on three sides by mountains (except for "down valley") so we were always relegated to the slow lane going uphill...what a drag! We're better off financially now so we didn't have to settle for a four banger this time!
:p :2: :cool: :D |
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| PNW-Pilot |
IF they had an option and it was around the price of a fully loaded CRV EX, I'd be interested.
Reason, yes it won't do fine on long trips in mountain areas, but for going around town, if I could average 25MPG city/highway. I'd be in for that as a second vehicle for family to use around town.
But it would have to get like the CRV in milage 20/27 for me to consider it. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by PNW-Pilot
IF they had an option and it was around the price of a fully loaded CRV EX, I'd be interested.
Reason, yes it won't do fine on long trips in mountain areas, but for going around town, if I could average 25MPG city/highway. I'd be in for that as a second vehicle for family to use around town.
But it would have to get like the CRV in milage 20/27 for me to consider it.
How is a heavier bigger vehicle going to get the same MPG? |
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| Titans Fan |
This brings back 3 very unpleasant thoughts from my first (i.e. very basic) 4 cyl. truck:
1) Having to pick up speed going down hills so it could "kinda maintain" speed going up the next hill. :(
2) Flooring it going up hills... and seeing the speed drop, drop, drop... :3:
3) Looking over & seeing grandpa passing me in his Olds, the same car I passed on a flat stretch because he was poking along. :cursin:
Not going there again. :headshak: |
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| ramirami |
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Originally posted by Titans Fan
This brings back 3 very unpleasant thoughts from my first (i.e. very basic) 4 cyl. truck:
3) Looking over & seeing grandpa passing me in his Olds, the same car I passed on a flat stretch because he was poking along. :cursin:
:2: :2: funny picture ;) |
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| john802 |
| No way!!! That will be one slow Pilot unless Honda will rebadge it as "Turtle" ;) :2: |
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| johnabrown |
| Bit like crossing a mouse with an elephant! |
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| ARwebpilot |
Just to be a bit contrary...
If Honda was to seriously consider offering a 4 cyl., they would set loose their engineers to provide a powertrain that was practical, and easily implemented in the basic vehicle without lots of changes (otherwise, it wouldn't be the same vehicle!)
The 4 cyl would need to be matched with a trans and rear end that had the appropriate mix of gearing to facilitate acceptable accelleration and hauling performance. I'm not sure they would use an existing engine trans combination at all.
One thing they might do in such a vehicle would be to delete the third-row seating to save weight, and lower weight in other ways like less insulation/soundproofing and not offering power seats and windows.
Why they would do it? I don't know - but IF Honda did do it, they would take the time to do it "properly". And, only if they knew they had a market for it!
Just my 2-cents worth... :2: :2: |
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| Ferdball |
Conversely, I'm gland that Honda is able to make such good use out of a V6. It is quiet, quick, efficient (not for me though :( ), and just plain toight!
Then I look at those big V8 SUV's that don't even have a hitch... |
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| rockman19762001 |
| I buy a Pilot with VCM technology, since I do not use the Pilot to tow only extended highway driving in Texas. The same six cylinder engine with the ability to cruise at highway speeds on three cylinders would meet 98% of my needs. |
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| Tim |
quote:
Originally posted by krygny
No. NO. NO! F#%K NO!! S#!T F&%KING NO!!! [/B]
What he said. :28: |
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| dbaggette |
| It already exists...It's called the CRV. |
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| jchen |
| What if Honda puts in the S2000 engine.... |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by jchen
What if Honda puts in the S2000 engine....
LOL, A truck with no power below 3000 RPM.
That would be fun to drive. |
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| jchen |
Yeah, not enough torque.............
But I think a l4 engine is possible but it would need quite amount of modifications. That would not be a wise investment for Honda at least in North America market. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by jchen
Yeah, not enough torque.............
But I think a l4 engine is possible but it would need quite amount of modifications. That would not be a wise investment for Honda at least in North America market.
I'm not sure what the value would be.
My Pilot does not that much worse MPG than my CR-V |
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| optimist |
| Even with a V6, I am not comfortable when using Regular gas.!!! Hate to think about a V4 Pilot.:( |
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| jchen |
| I think you mean In-line-4-cylinder engine. :D |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by optimist
Even with a V6, I am not comfortable when using Regular gas.!!! Hate to think about a V4 Pilot.:(
i'm a bit lost as to what you mean? |
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| optimist |
| Thanks for your rehash Jchen... |
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| cwa107 |
A 4-cylinder Pilot would not be the same thing as a CR-V. The CR-V is a very different vehicle. There's a lot of cool features there that are aimed at the "active lifestyle" set (kinda like the Xterra) such as the picnic table and spare tire well that doubles as an ice container.
If Honda were to do some weight reduction (such as taking out the third seat), get it down another 1000 lbs and pop in the 2.4L iVTEC, I'm sure it would be a drivable vehicle, although I don't think the mileage would improve all that much. A great deal of efficiency is lost with the aerodynamics of an SUV combined with the AWD drivetrain. |
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| August West |
| If they introduced an 8 cyl. Pilot, I would trade mine in and upgrade tomorrow. |
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| a2Pilot |
Four Banger? NO! :headshak:
Turbo Diesel? Interesting.............:4: |
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| stlblues |
| No way, a four doen't have the torque necessary. Our 03 could use a bit more as it is. Gas mileage wouldn't increase much if at all due to the fact the motor would have to be geared so high to pull the thing. |
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| Rico |
| I wouldn't buy a 4cyl Pilot. |
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| striper1rn |
| neva, notta, nope......my '05 1851 WA (18'6"), 3000 lb. SeaSwirl Striper boat wouldn't 'like it'!!! |
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| tangotango99 |
| No. Even the CRV can be move with the 2.4L .Toyota is coming up with a 6cyl for the new RAV 4 |
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