| liaisanangel |
Last year I posted about possibly purchasing a Pilot. We purchased our 05 Pilot last November. Nothing but good times for this family of now four (I found out I was expecting in October and that sealed the deal to buy a bigger truck).
But I digress!
Tonight, the hubby and I went on a date night. There had been heavy rain in NJ and flash flooding. Well we were caught on a road that had about 2-3 feet of rainwater. The Pilot was roaring through it at first because it wasn't deep--maybe a few inches, then WHOOSH we were submerged up to the bottom of the door. THEN the engine stalled and sputtered and my husband and several PSE&G men pushed it uphill out of 2-3 feet of water to a nearby gas station. (PSE&G had just started putting our road block signs, we had no idea that it was that deep). At the gas station, dh kept trying to start it and lots of water came out of the exhaust.
Is there any hope for this Pilot? Anyone else have a water in the engine problem? The engine light is on, it starts but makes a horrendous clanging noise. We were able to drive it (eventhough it stalled a few times) home which was a mile away. Now it is not even starting.
I am totally clueless when it comes to automobiles. My husband is on the phone with his brother that sold us the Pilot. No idea if it is covered under warranty (we leased the Pilot), we file an insurance claim, or we finnagle getting into a new truck.
Any advice, suggestions...:confused: |
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| tangotango99 |
| Take it to the Dealer |
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| cwa107 |
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Originally posted by tangotango99
Take it to the Dealer
Correction - let it dry out for a week or two and THEN take it to the dealer. Just tell the dealer "I don't know what happened, it just won't start". :p |
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| sblvro |
| ;) actually have it detailed and take it to the dealer, if driveable, or have it towed if not. most likely the ecu got shorted out. |
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| sfhondapilot |
| Up to the bottom of the doors? Might be a cracked block. I'd check my insurance coverage. |
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| rocky |
The Engine ingested water through the air intake, and Hydrolocked. Water doesn't compress as well as air/fuel and therefore the higher compression basically blows the engine apart. If you look under the hood its likely that you will see the block has been destroyed by a rod or something coming through it.
But 2-3 feet of water is enough to total a car.
Monday am. Call your insurance agent and make a comprehensive claim for flooding. Tell them you know the engine is destroyed for starters. Rent a car.
Be prepared to order a new 06 This is good for family relations. NOTE if you didn't get gap insurance on the lease, you could be out thousands of dollars due to contractual terms of the lease. This obvious will be bad for family relations
Thats the worst outcome. The alternative is simple engine replacement followed by months of wierd electrical happenings all related to this event. And make sure if the Pilot has breathers for axle or other parts that they drain and refill of those parts. |
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| Alexandra242628 |
| Before my Pilot I owned an Infiti that was flooded out during the "no name" storm her in South Florida. The waterline was up to the dashboard. Because there were so many claims, my insurance company (USAA) said to have it towed to the dealer. Of course, the dealer said it was fixable but they would have to replace pretty much everything inside of the car. I did not think that was acceptable because I knew that once water gets into the electrical system and/or engine you can have problems way down the line. I called my insurance company and explained my feelings and they agreed to total out the car. |
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| jcantanixon |
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Originally posted by rocky
The Engine ingested water through the air intake, and Hydrolocked. Water doesn't compress as well as air/fuel and therefore the higher compression basically blows the engine apart. If you look under the hood its likely that you will see the block has been destroyed by a rod or something coming through it.
But 2-3 feet of water is enough to total a car.
Monday am. Call your insurance agent and make a comprehensive claim for flooding. Tell them you know the engine is destroyed for starters. Rent a car.
Be prepared to order a new 06 This is good for family relations. NOTE if you didn't get gap insurance on the lease, you could be out thousands of dollars due to contractual terms of the lease. This obvious will be bad for family relations
Thats the worst outcome. The alternative is simple engine replacement followed by months of wierd electrical happenings all related to this event. And make sure if the Pilot has breathers for axle or other parts that they drain and refill of those parts.
The OP never posted after this, so we don't know the extent of her damage..but I wanted to paint a different picture than the doom and gloom that rocky posted just in case another user does a search and finds this thread. I've seen plenty of cases where hydrolock has resulted in needing an engine rebuild, but my Pilot ingested enough water to kill it and does not seem to have suffered any significant damage. Pulled the plugs, pumped the water out and it seems to be good as new. Maybe I'm the lucky exception, or maybe the Honda 3.5L isn't prone to self destruction when waterlocked. Either way, if you flood it, doesn't 100% mean it's dead.:cool: |
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| 2muchfun |
You will not see any noticeable damage from the outside.
You bent a valve or two or three...
The motor is probably toast.
This is Not a warranty claim and they will know what happened by various indicators.
Next time, pull all the spark plugs before trying to crank over a motor that has ingested water.
Good luck :( |
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| jcantanixon |
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Originally posted by 2muchfun
You will not see any noticeable damage from the outside.
You bent a valve or two or three...
The motor is probably toast.
This is Not a warranty claim and they will know what happened by various indicators.
Next time, pull all the spark plugs before trying to crank over a motor that has ingested water.
Good luck :(
Believe me, I would have made the same assumption without seeing the engine, but I don't think there is any internal damage. No noticable loss in compression, no check engine light, no strange noises. It runs like a top, no missing whatsoever, and no power loss to speak of. After 300 troublefree miles, including an extended climb at highway speed with 4 adults, two kids, two dogs, and luggage, I'm pretty confident that we're in the clear.
I'm going to change the oil and VTM this week since they were coming up anyway. Maybe one of these days if I get bored, I'll do a compression check. |
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