| Pilot06 |
The complaint I hear most often about the Pilot is that the middle seat does NOT fold Flat and Level.
I know that most Chevrolet SUV's seats fold Flat and Level. They do this by having the bottom of the seat pivot forward, then the seat folds down flat.
The 2nd complaint is that the radio has a "AUX" button that does nothing! (this is even on 2006 Pilots with factory XM radio). |
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| waynerd |
Oh yes, the seat that must fold flat to haul the bundle of plywood or drywall from House Depot that might happen once in a vehicle's lifetime.
I can see where it may come in handy for bikes, and such. I never really thought about it. I thought about all the time I'd wasted in the waiting area of the dealership getting my Exploder fixed.
As for the AUX :8: |
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| tangotango99 |
| I will go with No DVD/NAVI combo , weak HP and Low gear |
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| ictvuser |
| The current price of gas. |
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| Pilot06 |
>>Oh yes, the seat that must fold flat to haul the bundle of plywood or drywall from House Depot that might happen once in a vehicle's lifetime.<<
I think many need a "fold flat" fairly often.
It seems to me that Honda could fix this by having the bottom of the seat flip forward.
All in all the Pilot is great. Can it not be better? |
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| krygny |
quote:
Originally posted by Pilot06
The complaint I hear most often about the Pilot is that the middle seat does NOT fold Flat and Level.
I know that most Chevrolet SUV's seats fold Flat and Level.
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Why many will NOT buy a Chevy
The complaint I hear most often about Chevy SUVs is they are overpriced, underpowered, gas-sucking pieces of pig $hit that nobody wants unless GM sells them for cost.
But, at least the poor dumb bastard who buys one will get a middle seat that folds flat. |
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| rockman19762001 |
quote:
Originally posted by krygny
Why many will NOT buy a Chevy
The complaint I hear most often about Chevy SUVs is they are overpriced, underpowered, gas-sucking pieces of pig $hit that nobody wants unless GM sells them for cost.
But, at least the poor dumb bastard who buys one will get a middle seat that folds flat.
Plus they will get to spend tremendous amount of cash on repair bills. From a former Trail Blazer owner you can not spend enough to keep it running after 50,000 miles but the middle seat does fold flat! GM broke me of the habit of buying a GM product again! |
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| Edog |
quote:
Originally posted by Pilot06
The complaint I hear most often about the Pilot is that the middle seat does NOT fold Flat and Level.
I know that most Chevrolet SUV's seats fold Flat and Level. They do this by having the bottom of the seat pivot forward, then the seat folds down flat.
The 2nd complaint is that the radio has a "AUX" button that does nothing! (this is even on 2006 Pilots with factory XM radio).
FYI. The AUX button DOES do something. If you have a Pilot with DVD RES, the Aux button switches the input to the Auxilary A/V Inputs in the rear.
As for the seats, I agree with the above post...you will rarely NEED the seats to go flat. If you do, do yourself a favor and buy a truck. |
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| Pilot06 |
It seems to me that Honda could fix this by having the bottom of the seat flip forward.
All in all the Pilot is great. Can it not be better? |
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| jcantanixon |
| There's an echo in this thread. |
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| jcantanixon |
| There's an echo in this thread.:2: |
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| colorider |
quote:
Originally posted by Pilot06
It seems to me that Honda could fix this by having the bottom of the seat flip forward.
All in all the Pilot is great. Can it not be better?
I've read this somewhere before.
Oh yes - now I remember - right here in this thread!!!!
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| dragoncoach |
| If flat folding seats is the sole reason for NOT buying a Pilot, I think Honda did pretty well. I've hauled long items on rare instances and it really hasn't been a problem for me. The seat backs compress a little to make it flatter but it's not completely flat. I am very content with our Pilot. It does what I need it to do...carry up to eight in pretty good comfort, gets decent mileage, is available to carry large items on some occasions, is able to take the family to the snow, and it is reliable. |
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| BillG |
I've been shopping for awhile and the Pilot is my top pick SUV choice.
If I decide not to buy one, it won't have anything to do with the folding seats or AUX audio buting.
It will be for two reasons:
(1) Gas prices don't look like they will come back down anytime soon.
(2) For the $30k invoice price of an EX-L... there are a lot of other really interesting options out there. For example, you can buy a low mileage 2-3 year old Mercedes or BMW wagon for under $30k. There are also some great choices from Acura, Honda, Toyota, Lexus for sedans that will drive like a dream.
Heck... I could even buy a commuter car and a pretty nice truck.
Dunno. |
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| jl_ss |
quote:
Originally posted by BillG
I've been shopping for awhile and the Pilot is my top pick SUV choice.
If I decide not to buy one, it won't have anything to do with the folding seats or AUX audio buting.
It will be for two reasons:
(1) Gas prices don't look like they will come back down anytime soon.
(2) For the $30k invoice price of an EX-L... there are a lot of other really interesting options out there. For example, you can buy a low mileage 2-3 year old Mercedes or BMW wagon for under $30k. There are also some great choices from Acura, Honda, Toyota, Lexus for sedans that will drive like a dream.
Heck... I could even buy a commuter car and a pretty nice truck.
Dunno.
But the reason you could buy a low mileage Merc or BMW is because the previous owners got sick of dealing with the problems and traded it.........:) . |
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| sski |
I have been lulled by the prospect of a 2-3 yr old low mileage Merc or BMW, but have the repair concerns mentioned. A friend of mine just got rid of a ML320 because of repair costs. The "prestige" just was not worth the PITA anymore. I'm commuting with a Nissan Altima now and everytime I see a "2-3 yr old low mileage Merc or BMW" on the hwy I think, "I could afford that rather than a new Accord next time". But then I think I will live to regret it. (repairs, mileage etc)
Concerning the fold flat, I agree sometimes it may cause a problem but I'd think its rare. I actually bought a 4x8 utility trailer last year. It has paid for itself over and over. I've using it for plywood, firewood, shingles, furniture, appliances etc. I even used it to take the 4 bicycles to Niagara falls for the weekend. I thought about buying a bike rack (That I'll probably use once a year) but I figured I have the trailer so why bother. At the end of school we take a bunch of my daughters friends to the cottage for the weekend. All eight seats are filled so where do all the bags and coolers go? (Ah ha...the trailer.) |
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| jl_ss |
quote:
Originally posted by Edog
FYI. The AUX button DOES do something. If you have a Pilot with DVD RES, the Aux button switches the input to the Auxilary A/V Inputs in the rear.
As for the seats, I agree with the above post...you will rarely NEED the seats to go flat. If you do, do yourself a favor and buy a truck.
Yup, using a truck is much easier than stuffing large objects in the back of the Pilot. |
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| BillG |
quote:
Originally posted by jl_ss
But the reason you could buy a low mileage Merc or BMW is because the previous owners got sick of dealing with the problems and traded it.........:) .
Maybe, maybe not. I'm driving a 10 year old BMW 5-series at the moment. It has been a great car and is a pleasure to drive.
Merc hasn't done well lately on reliability ratings. BMW isn't quite as bad, but still not as good as it should be for the money.
Aside from reliability concerns, another thing that really discourages me from buying a Merc in the US is the image factor. I think I'd be embarrassed to arrive at a family event in a Merc. I'd be less self-concious about an Acura. |
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| Titans Fan |
quote:
Originally posted by Pilot06
[B...It seems to me that Honda could fix this by having the bottom of the seat flip forward....[/B]
The 4-Runner that I traded in for my Pilot did just that. The back seat did fold flat, but it got to be a pain in the neck after a while; it was a 3 step process just to lay down the seat back. 1) remove the head rest and figure out where to put it. 2) flip the seat bottom forward. 3) fold the back of the seat down. Then repeat for the other side if needed. I prefer the Pilot's 1 step.:4: |
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| colorider |
quote:
Originally posted by jl_ss
Yup, using a truck is much easier than stuffing large objects in the back of the Pilot.
What I did!!! |
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| rocky |
I've had prestige brands and left them. Volvo has in our experience done a poor job of initial quality. I'm equally happy not to spend the money on an MDX for a few extra dodads.
That said I wont give up my Land Rover. It had the worst initial reliability rating of any car I've ever owned but I love its ability to take on the back woods of New England and come back ready for more |
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| jl_ss |
quote:
Originally posted by colorider
What I did!!!
I'm looking for a truck in the picture, but I don't see one. Is it behind that Ridgeline? :D. |
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| ramirami |
quote:
Originally posted by jl_ss
Is it behind that Ridgeline? :D.
is there a ridgeline in that picture...I thought it was some new white bricks |
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| dragoncoach |
| And the anticipated repair costs. Remember there is more maintainance due on a vehicle that's 3-4 years olds as opposed to a new one. And BMW's and MB's are gonna require more $$$$ than a Pilot. But, they are still a viable consideration. |
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| Tim |
quote:
Originally posted by colorider
What I did!!!
Where's the S2K??.......behind that rock??.......:D |
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| tangotango99 |
quote:
Originally posted by BillG
I've been shopping for awhile and the Pilot is my top pick SUV choice.
If I decide not to buy one, it won't have anything to do with the folding seats or AUX audio buting.
It will be for two reasons:
(1) Gas prices don't look like they will come back down anytime soon.
(2) For the $30k invoice price of an EX-L... there are a lot of other really interesting options out there. For example, you can buy a low mileage 2-3 year old Mercedes or BMW wagon for under $30k. There are also some great choices from Acura, Honda, Toyota, Lexus for sedans that will drive like a dream.
Heck... I could even buy a commuter car and a pretty nice truck.
Dunno.
My Guess is you do not read J D Powers |
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| colorider |
quote:
Originally posted by jl_ss
I'm looking for a truck in the picture, but I don't see one. Is it behind that Ridgeline? :D.
No - my brother-in-law's Hilander is behind that RidgeLine truck. :D |
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| colorider |
quote:
Originally posted by Tim
Where's the S2K??.......behind that rock??.......:D
It was still at the stealer. At the time of the picture, there was a PT Cruiser behind the rock. :eek: :cool: :D :2:
(actually, you can see it in the shadows in the garage) |
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| Pilot06 |
>>FYI. The AUX button DOES do something. If you have a Pilot with DVD RES, the Aux button switches the input to the Auxilary A/V Inputs in the rear.<<
OK, If you have a 2006 Pilot with Nav (as most now come) the AUX button does nothing. NO iPod!! |
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| Scoobs |
| If you want a longer flat space in the back of the Pilot fold down the second row seats and push them all the way up against the back of the front seats. It leaves a gap between the second and third row seats but creates more flat space in the back before it ramps up on the backs of the second row. |
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| cwa107 |
quote:
Originally posted by Pilot06
>>FYI. The AUX button DOES do something. If you have a Pilot with DVD RES, the Aux button switches the input to the Auxilary A/V Inputs in the rear.<<
OK, If you have a 2006 Pilot with Nav (as most now come) the AUX button does nothing. NO iPod!!
Interesting. I wonder if there are RCA jacks on the back of that unit. Even if not, I'm sure it won't be long before the aftermarket produces something to take advantage of it.
The PIE X3 works great, BTW - although I don't know whether the HON03 or HON98 harness would would with the '06 since it is a different head unit. |
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| decena23 |
my wife drives our honda pilot just a while ago and i ride on the second row and the seat whatever it is DOES NOT BOTHER ME AT ALL!!!
Not a good reason NOT to buy a PiloT:rolleyes: |
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| brianmsmith |
Try obtaining a piece of 1/2 inch plywood 48" x 72-74" (I have forgotten the exact length but to fit just fwd of the aft sill molding). This covers the whole area, helps to compress the seat and protects the surfaces. It bends slightly for the most fwd 2 ft. Chamfer the edges, round the corners and you have a useful tool that converts your 9 seater race car to a covered pickup. I did A LOT of research before buying the Pilot and I am VERY pleased with its performance, in all senses.
And as for operating and maintenance costs, it is a Honda so both are very low AND it uses 87 octane AND it has a great resale if I ever sell her! |
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| colorider |
quote:
Originally posted by brianmsmith
~snip~
Chamfer the edges, round the corners and you have a useful tool that converts your 9 seater race car to a covered pickup.
~more snip~
Wow - mine was only an 8 seater!!!!!
:D :D :D |
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| brianmsmith |
I forgot to mention the baby cot converted from the floor mounted liquor cabinet behind the 3rd row!
Seriously, my error, thanks... |
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| colorider |
quote:
Originally posted by brianmsmith
I forgot to mention the baby cot converted from the floor mounted liquor cabinet behind the 3rd row!
Seriously, my error, thanks...
Just yanking your chain. BTW, I notice you picked the BEST color for your Pilot!! (that should get more than a few responses)
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| Tim |
quote:
Originally posted by colorider
Just yanking your chain. BTW, I notice you picked the BEST color for your Pilot!! (that should get more than a few responses)
:eek:
Is that a color?? I thought it was some type of music.......:2: |
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| jl_ss |
quote:
Originally posted by Tim
Is that a color?? I thought it was some type of music.......:2:
I think it is an XM station.........:D . |
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| colorider |
quote:
Originally posted by Tim
Is that a color?? I thought it was some type of music.......:2:
At least it doesn't sound like some finger nail polish color!!!
:D :D :D |
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| Tim |
quote:
Originally posted by colorider
At least it doesn't sound like some finger nail polish color!!!
:D :D :D
Watch it, buddy........:14:
:D |
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| colorider |
quote:
Originally posted by Tim
Watch it, buddy........:14:
:D
colorider :9: Tim
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| BigDogDad |
quote:
Originally posted by Edog
FYI. The AUX button DOES do something. If you have a Pilot with DVD RES, the Aux button switches the input to the Auxilary A/V Inputs in the rear.
I have my Sirius receiver hooked up to the AUX input, great and fast way to get sat radio. Quality beats the FM modulation by a mile. |
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| tangotango99 |
| YOUR RIDGE SMELL LIKE A PILOT.I NOTICE A CHAINSAW IN YOUR GARAGE :2: |
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| colorider |
quote:
Originally posted by tangotango99
YOUR RIDGE SMELL LIKE A PILOT.I NOTICE A CHAINSAW IN YOUR GARAGE :2:
Okay - you got me. I haven't a clue what you are talking about (or why you are YELLING at me).
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| Tim |
quote:
Originally posted by tangotango99
YOUR RIDGE SMELL LIKE A PILOT.I NOTICE A CHAINSAW IN YOUR GARAGE :2:
dude,.......get a hundle on all that yelling will-ya......;) |
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| hofffam |
I just bought a 2006 2WD EX-L over a new generation Nissan Pathfinder LE. We chose the Pilot mostly because of its room, VCM, and more confidence in the Pilot. I will say the Pilot has some rather surprising shortcomings compared to the Nissan (or my Ridgeline), at the same price (within $1000):
Pilot has no auto-locking doors
Pilot has no memory seat/mirrors
Pilot doesn't have a full roof rack (you need to buy crossbars)
Pilot doesn't have a towing hitch
Pilot can't open windows from the remote
Pilot doesn't have MP3
The Nissan has all of the above plus AC vents in the roof for 2nd and 3rd row.
That said - we like the Pilot very much and didn't trust the Nissan. |
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| Tim |
quote:
Originally posted by hofffam
I just bought a 2006 2WD EX-L over a new generation Nissan Pathfinder LE. We chose the Pilot mostly because of its room, VCM, and more confidence in the Pilot. I will say the Pilot has some rather surprising shortcomings compared to the Nissan (or my Ridgeline), at the same price (within $1000):
Pilot has no auto-locking doors
Pilot has no memory seat/mirrors
Pilot doesn't have a full roof rack (you need to buy crossbars)
Pilot doesn't have a towing hitch
Pilot can't open windows from the remote
Pilot doesn't have MP3
The Nissan has all of the above plus AC vents in the roof for 2nd and 3rd row.
That said - we like the Pilot very much and didn't trust the Nissan.
Congrats on the new Pilot.....(I think)....:8:
And welcome to HP.org...........:D |
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| jl_ss |
quote:
Originally posted by hofffam
I just bought a 2006 2WD EX-L over a new generation Nissan Pathfinder LE. We chose the Pilot mostly because of its room, VCM, and more confidence in the Pilot. I will say the Pilot has some rather surprising shortcomings compared to the Nissan (or my Ridgeline), at the same price (within $1000):
Pilot has no auto-locking doors
Pilot has no memory seat/mirrors
Pilot doesn't have a full roof rack (you need to buy crossbars)
Pilot doesn't have a towing hitch
Pilot can't open windows from the remote
Pilot doesn't have MP3
The Nissan has all of the above plus AC vents in the roof for 2nd and 3rd row.
That said - we like the Pilot very much and didn't trust the Nissan.
Congrats. Honda has cleverly figured out the minimum they need to offer to get you to buy it over the competition. They have to be very careful not to overlap too many MDX features also. |
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| hofffam |
Tim - please no misunderstanding - we are very happy to be Pilot owners. I am just a bit surprised in a vehicle likely to carry families that it doesn't have or even offer an auto-locking option. They just updated the vehicle for 2006 (which we have) and could easily have added it. My 2006 Ridgeline has auto-locking.
If I were on a Toyota Highlander forum I would rant (on and on) about that vehicle.... |
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| colorider |
quote:
Originally posted by hofffam
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My 2006 Ridgeline has auto-locking.
But many complain that the RidgeLine does not offer the program option to auto-unlock all doors. :eek: |
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| Tim |
quote:
Originally posted by hofffam
Tim - please no misunderstanding - we are very happy to be Pilot owners. I am just a bit surprised in a vehicle likely to carry families that it doesn't have or even offer an auto-locking option. They just updated the vehicle for 2006 (which we have) and could easily have added it. My 2006 Ridgeline has auto-locking.
If I were on a Toyota Highlander forum I would rant (on and on) about that vehicle....
no, don't get me wrong........if I knew those features came std in Nissa at the same price range as the pilot (when I bought) I would have gone for the nissan (with a 5 speed)..........:4:
I've had no trouble with the wife's maxima. The only thing I didn't care for was the rear door hundles on the pathfinder (of coarse it was also the previous generation nissan)............:p |
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| jl_ss |
quote:
Originally posted by Tim
no, don't get me wrong........if I knew those features came std in Nissa at the same price range as the pilot (when I bought) I would have gone for the nissan (with a 5 speed)..........:4:
I've had no trouble with the wife's maxima. The only thing I didn't care for was the rear door hundles on the pathfinder (of coarse it was also the previous generation nissan)............:p
There are a lot of Nissans on the wrong side of the reliability ratings nowadays:
CR 2005/2006 Best/Worst reliability Summary |
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| Tim |
quote:
Originally posted by colorider
But many complain that the RidgeLine does not offer the program option to auto-unlock all doors. :eek:
depending upon where you park that may not be such a good option........:D |
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| hofffam |
My Ridgeline DOES have the unlock-all-doors option. It seems Honda corrected this shortcoming. I just took delivery of the Ridgeline last week. The Rigdeline can unlock the drivers door, all doors, or none at all - either when the shift lever is moved to Park or the ignition is moved to position (0).
The Nissan we drove was a 2005 model. It looked very nice but the engine had a pronounced chemical smell. It smelled "hot" although it had 12 miles on it.
I predict the Pathfinder will be successful as more people switch to mid-size SUVs. Those that need towing will choose the Nissan because it is rated for 6000lbs and includes a full hitch.
Our 2006 Pilot drives very very well. I have the Ridgeline for towing so we bought the 2WD Pilot to save money and fuel and carry 7 (8 in a pinch). |
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| tangotango99 |
RAV4 Stretches Out and Bulks Up
Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. has released market-specific details of the upcoming all-new-for '06 RAV4. While the new RAV4 saw its global debut at the Frankfurt auto show in September, the North American version will be significantly different, with a wheelbase about four inches longer than the European-market version, and with available V-6 power. Also notable: while the sleek, Euro-spec RAV first shown at Frankfurt eschewed the big rear tailgate-mounted spare in favor of run flats, the U.S. model keeps the big spare in back, along with standard tires. Overall, the new RAV is 14.5 inches longer and 3.2 inches wider than the current U.S. version, with a wheelbase 6.7 inches longer. With that in mind, it's no surprise that interior space is greatly improved - Toyota boasts an improvement of more than 20 percent. Two small third-row seats are now optional as well. Side airbags are available for all models.
A 166-hp, 2.4-liter four is standard, while the newly optional 3.5-liter V-6 is a version of the engine used on the Avalon, with dual VVT-i (variable timing for intake and exhaust) and an impressive 269 hp and 246 lb-ft. V-6 models get a new five-speed automatic transmission, while four-cylinders have a four-speed auto. With the V-6, the RAV4 will be able to make the 0-60 dash in less than seven seconds. As before, the RAV4 will be available in both front- and four-wheel-drive versions, though a part-time on-demand 4WD system replaces the former full-time viscous-clutch all-wheel-drive system. Despite weight gains, look for fuel economy among the best in its class, ranging from 20/27 for the all-wheel-drive V-6 to 24/31 for the front-wheel-drive four-cylinder - up one mpg on the highway compared with the '05 model - and regular unleaded is fine for both engines.
Production will begin later this month in Japan, while the new Woodstock, Ontario, plant currently in the works will supply North America beginning in 2008. The four-cylinder model will go on sale in December, while V-6 RAV4s will reach dealerships by late January.
Check back for a full driving review of the RAV4 later this month. -Bengt |
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| colorider |
quote:
Originally posted by hofffam
My Ridgeline DOES have the unlock-all-doors option. It seems Honda corrected this shortcoming. I just took delivery of the Ridgeline last week. The Rigdeline can unlock the drivers door, all doors, or none at all - either when the shift lever is moved to Park or the ignition is moved to position (0).
Hmmmm, now THAT is interesting!!!
Thanks! |
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| Tim |
quote:
Originally posted by colorider
Hmmmm, now THAT is interesting!!!
Thanks!
Ah.........what color you gonna get this time?........:D |
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| BillG |
quote:
Originally posted by tangotango99
RAV4 Stretches Out and Bulks Up
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Production will begin later this month in Japan, while the new Woodstock, Ontario, plant currently in the works will supply North America beginning in 2008. The four-cylinder model will go on sale in December, while V-6 RAV4s will reach dealerships by late January.
Too bad that the CR-V isn't scheduled for an update until 2007. I won't be able to wait that long. The current CR-V is practical, but it is just outdated IMO.
I'll definitely going to consider the '06 RAV4. 20/27 for an AWD V6 wth 269 HP would be attractive. I'm sure the third row is suitable for occassional use only, but that would be good enough for what I need. Looks like you cannot get leather with the third row.
pef of RAV4 specs
Oh well... I'll wait and see. |
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| colorider |
quote:
Originally posted by Tim
Ah.........what color you gonna get this time?........:D
Is there ANY color but white?!?!
:D |
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| brianmsmith |
quote:
Originally posted by BigDogDad
I have my Sirius receiver hooked up to the AUX input, great and fast way to get sat radio. Quality beats the FM modulation by a mile.
Wife just got Sirius, just a question of time before I hear "Honey. can you..." So how did you make the Sirius connection and where did you mount the thing? Is the process relatively easy?
PS Howard Stern is banned from my hearing - exercising MY 1st amendment rights... |
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| BigDogDad |
Antenna mounted on dash near windshield, ran wire down passenger side, under dash and tucked under lip of console near carpeting to under the drivers seat. Signal is suprisingly good.
Power and AUX from rear console RES, used split loom to keep wires neat and ran that also to the drivers seat.
All 3 wires (antenna, power & rca) in split loom and that goes up to center console. Cut a small hole thru the mesh on the drivers side of the console to feed wires thru. Cannot be seen unless you look for it.
As for the sat radio itself. I decided to make a metal bracket and attach it to the side of the console with heavy duty velcro. Like the stuff they use for EZ pass tags on the windshield. Holds very tight, no movement and I can pop off the entire thing very easy if need be. To that home made bracket is attached the sat radio mount that came with the receiver.
As clean as I could get it without removing the dash for a direct wire.
Here is a pic of where I mounted the receiver... |
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| brianmsmith |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by BigDogDad
[B]Antenna mounted on dash near windshield, ran wire down passenger side, under dash and tucked under lip of console near carpeting to under the drivers seat. Signal is suprisingly good. ETC... ...As clean as I could get it without removing the dash for a direct wire.
Thank you for this description, I can hand a copy of your reply to my YL and let her install it - siriusly... |
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| gprabu |
| When the third row seat is up, we wont be able to put a stroller there. I think it is a big Miktake :confused: why did they do that:confused: |
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| cwa107 |
quote:
Originally posted by gprabu
When the third row seat is up, we wont be able to put a stroller there. I think it is a big Miktake :confused: why did they do that:confused:
It depends on your stroller. Mine will fit back there. Or you can just pull up half of the third row. I mean, what do you think they should have done, made the Pilot the size of a school bus? |
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| jl_ss |
quote:
Originally posted by gprabu
When the third row seat is up, we wont be able to put a stroller there. I think it is a big Miktake :confused: why did they do that:confused:
They did that because they were trying not to achieve the size and weight of a Chevy Suburban....... |
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| rocky |
| If they ever rebody the Ridgeline Chassis in something with three rows of seats etc, they'll create the Honda Suburban very quickly |
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| jl_ss |
quote:
Originally posted by rocky
If they ever rebody the Ridgeline Chassis in something with three rows of seats etc, they'll create the Honda Suburban very quickly
Honda would need to resurrect the V8 development for that. |
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| gprabu |
When the third row seat is up, we wont be able to put a stroller there. I think it is a big Miktake why did they do that
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They did that because they were trying not to achieve the size and weight of a Chevy Suburban.......
Yeah! thats true, Have you see Volvo XC90, the space behind the third row is not big or small IMHO. I would like to see similiar space in future PILOT atleast |
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| jl_ss |
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Originally posted by gprabu
When the third row seat is up, we wont be able to put a stroller there. I think it is a big Miktake why did they do that
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They did that because they were trying not to achieve the size and weight of a Chevy Suburban.......
Yeah! thats true, Have you see Volvo XC90, the space behind the third row is not big or small IMHO. I would like to see similiar space in future PILOT atleast
But the XC90 does that at the expense of 2nd and 3rd row space. I could get in the 3rd row of our MDX/Pilot. I could not get in the 3rd row of the XC90 and the second row was even tight. |
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| gprabu |
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Originally posted by jl_ss
But the XC90 does that at the expense of 2nd and 3rd row space. I could get in the 3rd row of the MDX. I could not get in the 3rd row of the XC90 and the second row was even tight.
Thats true, In my honda pilot I removed the second row right most single seat so that it is now a 7 seater, but makes it easy for some one to access the thrid row. Because we will use Pilot with 6 people always, this makes us easy to get in and get out. We wont want to stand long outside in Chicago Weather :2: |
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| colorider |
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Originally posted by rocky
If they ever rebody the Ridgeline Chassis in something with three rows of seats etc, they'll create the Honda Suburban very quickly
Like this??? |
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| cwa107 |
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Originally posted by colorider
Like this???
Ya know, it's kind of an interesting concept. In GM-ese, it would be called the "Pilot XL" or something like that ;)
But jl_ss is right, it would need a V8. |
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| vellinga |
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Originally posted by cwa107
In GM-ese, it would be called the "Pilot XL" or something like that ;)
I think I like it, Colorider.
The Honda version could be called....the Ridgeliner
The Acura version could be called.....MDXtra |
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| tangotango99 |
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Originally posted by cwa107
Ya know, it's kind of an interesting concept. In GM-ese, it would be called the "Pilot XL" or something like that ;)
But jl_ss is right, it would need a V8.
IT still need a V-8 |
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| scharnhorst |
| DAMN!!! I'd buy it with or without a v8. V8 would be cooler though! |
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| colorider |
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Originally posted by scharnhorst
DAMN!!! I'd buy it with or without a v8. V8 would be cooler though!
You may have to settle for this version for a while!!! |
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| jl_ss |
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Originally posted by colorider
You may have to settle for this version for a while!!!
Get it now:
Link |
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| colorider |
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Originally posted by jl_ss
Get it now:
Link
Yes - we all ready have one member on the RidgeLine forum that has one on order. About $1800 IIRC.
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| tangotango99 |
| Can you give us u r opinion on both vehicles ?(Pilot and Ridgeline) |
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| donx |
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Originally posted by gprabu
When the third row seat is up, we wont be able to put a stroller there. I think it is a big Miktake :confused: why did they do that:confused:
Do you want have 8 passengers in Pilot and also carry a full size stroller? Well, even 8 seat Odyssey can't comfortably carry 8 passenger (the mid seat of 2nd row is a joke), so I guess only 8 seat Sienna can do that easily. If the max you will carry is 7, you can always folder down right half of 3rd row for full size stroller. Even if you have 8 passenger, I think you can still have the full size stroller attached to back bike rack (that's what I did once before). |
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| AL ASPIRATED |
| the only issue i have with my pilot is that there isnt enough cargo space, when i fill up all seats. i go on road trips a lot and with a lot of people, who has a lot of bags to bring. makes the truck crampped inside. |
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| colorider |
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Originally posted by tangotango99
Can you give us u r opinion on both vehicles ?(Pilot and Ridgeline)
Sorry - didn't see this until this morning.....
I don't have to tell you much about the Pilot - but we DO like the RidgeLine. About the only downside is that we lost a couple MPG. It's rated 1MPG less than the Pilot, but we probably lost closer to 2-3 overall. We only used the full seating potential of the Pilot twice in the 2 1/2 years we owned it, whereas we have used the versatility of the pickup numerous times since we bought the RidgeLine. The trunk is AWESOME and you would be amazed how much can be packed in there!
Certainly both great vehicles IMHO!!!
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| donx |
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Originally posted by AL ASPIRATED
the only issue i have with my pilot is that there isnt enough cargo space, when i fill up all seats. i go on road trips a lot and with a lot of people, who has a lot of bags to bring. makes the truck crampped inside.
I think we do have workaround for this scenario. I also sometimes need to carry 8 people plus their luggages(especially for the summer activities). I think roof carrier and/or hitch carrier will solve the problem! |
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| OnHonda11 |
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Originally posted by AL ASPIRATED
the only issue i have with my pilot is that there isnt enough cargo space, when i fill up all seats. i go on road trips a lot and with a lot of people, who has a lot of bags to bring. makes the truck crampped inside.
I did a poll at some point and commented on how I wished the Pilot had a bit more cargo room behind the third row. I basically got laughted on the board by a few members who thought I shouldn't be driving a Pilot but instead spending $20000 more (not to mention the MPG difference) and getting a Sequoia for the extra foot of cargo space. So be careful on the board what you wish for:rolleyes: |
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| Sportymonk |
Well, I didn't see the poll I don't think but I wouldn't laugh. I do wish the Pilot had just a little more room in the back, maybe 6 to 8 inches.
BTW, if the Ridgeline cover shown above had been available when I got my Pilot it would have been a much tougher decision.
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Originally posted by OnHonda11
I did a poll at some point and commented on how I wished the Pilot had a bit more cargo room behind the third row. I basically got laughted on the board by a few members who thought I shouldn't be driving a Pilot but instead spending $20000 more (not to mention the MPG difference) and getting a Sequoia for the extra foot of cargo space. So be careful on the board what you wish for:rolleyes:
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| OnHonda11 |
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Originally posted by Sportymonk
Well, I didn't see the poll I don't think but I wouldn't laugh. I do wish the Pilot had just a little more room in the back, maybe 6 to 8 inches.
BTW, if the Ridgeline cover shown above had been available when I got my Pilot it would have been a much tougher decision.
The name I was using at the time was "Vahrmeyer" but here's the post with interesting results!
http://hondapilot.org/forums/showth...p?threadid=6190
70+% feel it's just right if you can believe it! |
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| Sportymonk |
| Well, I noticed that of those that commented, most wanted 6 to 12 inches more. I agree with Pilotmom that its fine when the third row is down but with it up, there is a need for more room since you have more people and more cargo. It would interesting to run this poll again since it is closed now. |
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| donx |
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Originally posted by Sportymonk
Well, I noticed that of those that commented, most wanted 6 to 12 inches more. I agree with Pilotmom that its fine when the third row is down but with it up, there is a need for more room since you have more people and more cargo. It would interesting to run this poll again since it is closed now.
6-12 inches will be great, but not too long. Otherwise, the height needs to be increased as well, or it will look like the SUV-looking GM Vans. |
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| madhunter |
| I finally got a chance to look at the Pilot yesterday and came away blah. The interior was alright, cavernous middle storage in the center, but no mp3 on the 6 disk:confused: . The rear has about 0 space with the third row up and this may be the deciding factor; I realize that this room was given to the 3rd row for seating but if you're carrying 3 rows of people you may want to carry something else. The ride was nice and the engine was adequate but nothing to write home about. All in all nice but definitely left me wanting more as far as fit and finish in the interior. |
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| jl_ss |
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Originally posted by madhunter
The rear has about 0 space with the third row up and this may be the deciding factor; I realize that this room was given to the 3rd row for seating but if you're carrying 3 rows of people you may want to carry something else. The suburban/yukon XL/Excursion/ETC were made for people who want to carry 3 rows of people plus their cargo.
The ride was nice and the engine was adequate but nothing to write home about. All in all nice but definitely left me wanting more as far as fit and finish in the interior.
Fit and finish are equivalent to it's price level competition (better than most). Try an MDX for a sportier ride and more luxurious interior.
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| tangotango99 |
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Originally posted by madhunter
I finally got a chance to look at the Pilot yesterday and came away blah. The interior was alright, cavernous middle storage in the center, but no mp3 on the 6 disk:confused: . The rear has about 0 space with the third row up and this may be the deciding factor; I realize that this room was given to the 3rd row for seating but if you're carrying 3 rows of people you may want to carry something else. The ride was nice and the engine was adequate but nothing to write home about. All in all nice but definitely left me wanting more as far as fit and finish in the interior.
I will suggest you buy an SUV u really want.Free of choice, my choice is the Pilot :) |
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| ron243 |
Love my Pilot!!!!!!!!! Regardless of the fact that the mid seat does not fold FLAT!.. I have taken my pilot on numerous camping trips, numerous trips to home depot, numerous trips filling all the seating and I don't have ONE complaint.. Perhaps if you are that distraught over the flatness of the seats, you should spend more over the life of your vehicle and purchase
a domestic? Well, thats just my opinion anyways... who cares.... |
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| mmmmark |
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Originally posted by ron243
Love my Pilot!!!!!!!!! Regardless of the fact that the mid seat does not fold FLAT!.. I have taken my pilot on numerous camping trips, numerous trips to home depot, numerous trips filling all the seating and I don't have ONE complaint.. Perhaps if you are that distraught over the flatness of the seats, you should spend more over the life of your vehicle and purchase
a domestic? Well, thats just my opinion anyways... who cares....
Some SUVs have fold-flat seats. For that to happen, one of two things has to happen:
- The second row seat has to hinge when it folds
- the second row seat bottom or back has to be paper thin which makes it pretty uncomfortable
Thankfully, Honda didn't do either of these. The first can compromise safety, while the second makes for a sore butt!:D |
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| prijo |
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Originally posted by krygny
Why many will NOT buy a Chevy
The complaint I hear most often about Chevy SUVs is they are overpriced, underpowered, gas-sucking pieces of pig $hit that nobody wants unless GM sells them for cost.
But, at least the poor dumb bastard who buys one will get a middle seat that folds flat.
lol, right on. Had a blazer, will never buy chevy again. |
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