| Ariverajr |
| I'm trying to to replace my factory headunit and I found something on crutchfield that mentioned that I would loose my DVD player. Is there any way that I can do both? I'm planning on getting the Alpine DVA 9860 to replace my factory headunit. Is there anyone that can help? |
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| ED27 |
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Originally posted by Ariverajr
I'm trying to to replace my factory headunit and I found something on crutchfield that mentioned that I would loose my DVD player. Is there any way that I can do both? I'm planning on getting the Alpine DVA 9860 to replace my factory headunit. Is there anyone that can help?
I assume that you have the EX-L RES model? If so you will lose control of the factory in-dash DVD player if you change the head unit. The Alpine headunit will not control it. |
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| Ariverajr |
| Yes I have the Res and is there any headunit that I can replace the factory unit with and still keep control of the DVD player. Thanks for the help. |
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| ED27 |
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Originally posted by Ariverajr
Yes I have the Res and is there any headunit that I can replace the factory unit with and still keep control of the DVD player. Thanks for the help.
Unfortunately there is not one available but it may be possible to feed the video signal of an aftermarket unit (i.e. DVA-9860) into the overhead screen. The factory wires will have to be hacked into so it's definitely not a plug-n-play situation. What is the reason for the change? Did your factory deck become defective or are you looking for more features, power, better sound quality, etc.? |
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| Ariverajr |
| The reason for the change is better sound quality and options. I have a four channel and a two channel audiobahn amplifier along with four Rockford Fosgate Power T162C. If I keep my factory radio I will not be able to use the four channel amp to run the RF speakers or at least that is what the installer said. The reason is becaue I would need 3 pre-amp outputs to avoid road noise since the factory radio only comes with one I would have to replace the factory headunit with an after market unit. And I don't want to do that because I don't want to lose my DVD controls or player. So is there any other way to make the transition from the factory speakers and adding the RF's with the Amp without changing the factory head unit. |
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| dconder |
Your installer sounds like he is trying to sell you a new head unit.
Line out convertors would allow you to tap the factory head units speaker outputs and turn them into RCA outputs to run your amps. There are several 4 channel models that are pretty inexpensive. JL Audio's new Clean Sweep is designed for just this purpose. Although it is quite pricey. There are several other new models from different manufactors that came out this year. They are designed toward factory integration.
Other than a LOC of some variety, you would be left with trying to send the signal to the factory screen as ED suggested. I would look into LOC's if you want to keep the factory head unit.
Your amps also might have preamp outputs on them. With this, you could use a 2 channel LOC into your main amp and use the preamp out to run to the next amp and so on. The downside to this is you loose the ability to fade. But, if setup properly, you should not really need to fade anyway. |
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| Ariverajr |
| Does any one recommend a good 4 Channel LOC for a decent price. |
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| Ariverajr |
| I found the PAC Universal 4-Channel Line Out Converter with Remote Turn On and the JL Audio CL441DSP Clean Sweep. What is the difference between of the two items? Of course I would like to have the best but i don't want to have to pay 399 if I don't have to. Thanks for the help so far gents. |
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| dconder |
| The CleanSweep is light years beyond a simple LOC. But, you have to weigh that against the price. I would try a simple LOC first. You should be able to get one for less than $50. It might be all you need. You can go to www.jlaudio.com to see all the info on the CleanSweep and see if you need all its potential. |
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| ED27 |
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Originally posted by Ariverajr
Does any one recommend a good 4 Channel LOC for a decent price.
Take a look at David Navone's LOC. He's a highly respected expert in the car audio industry and has offered low cost/high performance products for a number of years now. Plus he's the man when it comes to troubleshooting noise problems. His 4-channel LOC is only $34.95 and you can check it out here. The JL Audio unit is a very nice piece and has been received very well since it came out. The main advantage is that you will have better frequency response compared to a standard LOC and at $399 it's still cheaper than the DVA-9860. |
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| Ariverajr |
Well gents i went with the David Navone LOC, i'm not going to be competeing anytime soon. I would like to have a nice sounding system without emptying my pockets completly. So far I have the following items:
1. A6004T Four channel AudioBahn
2. A8002T Two channel AudioBahn
3. Four Rockford Fosgate Power T162C Speakers
4. 1 Rockford Fosgate P2 12" in RF Enclosure
5. OEM radio with a soon to arrive 4 channel LOC.
Do you gent think this is good enough for everyday listening. |
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| dconder |
| Should be a huge improvement over stock. |
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| mr24bball |
I have a quick question,
If you are replacing the Factory Head Unit with the Alpine DVA-9860 or 9861, can't you use the Alpine as the DVD player and connect that to the RES and just disconnect the factory installed DVD player?
The reason I'm asking is because my 2003 Head Unit is "defective" - i.e. I'm starting to get that humming sound, and I was thinking of replacing it with maybe the 9860 or 9861 and just disconnecting the factory DVD player and using the alpine as my dvd player.
I guess I will lose the ability of my rear ear phones though.
any thoughts? |
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| Ariverajr |
Ball,
I'm not going to replace my headunit because I don't want to lose control of my factory DVD player. I'm going to keep the headunit and install a 4 channel LOC with adjustable preamp outputs and daisy chain my 2 channel amp from the 4 channel. I have read different forums on this issue and most say that it is possible to connect ur new DVD player to the rear screen, however, it will take some Technical Knowledge to complete. Also, yes I believe that you would lose control of your headsets also, alpine might use a different freq to send the signal or might not, its a chance you will take. All this tech stuff is not my department but I thought I would pass the research that I have done. Hope this helps.
One question for anyone that can help though. I purchased a 4 channel LOC, but currently I have a two channel installed. I'm going to remove the two channel and install the 4 channel, is this going to cause road noise? A local installer (i'm in hawaii) tells me that this is going to cause road noise because the factory radio does not provide enough preamp power for the amp, I told them I have an adjustable LOC that can control the preamp levels but he was hesitant. Keep in mind this is the same shop trying to sell me a headunit as indicated in an earlier post. Can anyone provide some insight? Thanks |
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| Ariverajr |
| One question for anyone that can help though. I purchased a 4 channel LOC, but currently I have a two channel installed. I'm going to remove the two channel and install the 4 channel, is this going to cause road noise? A local installer (i'm in hawaii) tells me that this is going to cause road noise because the factory radio does not provide enough preamp power for the amp, I told them I have an adjustable LOC that can control the preamp levels but he was hesitant. Keep in mind this is the same shop trying to sell me a headunit as indicated in an earlier post. Can anyone provide some insight? Thanks |
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| ED27 |
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Originally posted by Ariverajr
I'm going to remove the two channel and install the 4 channel, is this going to cause road noise? A local installer (i'm in hawaii) tells me that this is going to cause road noise because the factory radio does not provide enough preamp power for the amp, I told them I have an adjustable LOC that can control the preamp levels but he was hesitant. Keep in mind this is the same shop trying to sell me a headunit as indicated in an earlier post. Can anyone provide some insight? Thanks
From your description, it sounds like he's giving a bunch of BS. First of all, the OEM radio does not have preamp outputs - if it did you wouldn't need a LOC so his comment about preamp power is crap. The LOC you bought is adjustable to a max of 9.5 volts - enough for any amplifier to handle. You'll probably find that you won't have to turn the gains up that high on the amps. There is the chance that the RCA/interconnect cables you use will pick up noise but as long as you follow good practices and use twisted-pair cables, you'll be fine. |
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| Ariverajr |
| Does anyone know where I can find pictures or a diagram on how to install a 4-channel LOC? |
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| ED27 |
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Originally posted by Ariverajr
Does anyone know where I can find pictures or a diagram on how to install a 4-channel LOC?
The LOC should have come with some basic instructions. In a nutshell, you take the speaker-level outputs coming out of the OEM radio and connect them to the corresponding input wires on the LOC. The connection can be soldered and then wrapped with heatshrink or you can use a butt-splice crimped with a high-quality crimper (Klein Tools, Channel-Lock, Snap-On, etc.) The rest should be obvious (running RCA cables from the LOC to your amps).
I don't have the wire information as fas what's left-front, right-rear, etc. but if someone's posted that info before, a search should find it. Otherwise I'll try to get the info from the ETM later today. |
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| Ariverajr |
| So I have installed a 4-channel LOC and a 4-channel Amp to push 4 Rockford Fosgate's T162C to my front and rear doors. After much debate it is all done. Now my only problem is that I have some noise although very suttle I can hear it. It's only happens when I press the gas pedal. How can I get rid of this noise and what do I need to do? |
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