| RocketFan34 |
| I just replaced the head unit in my 2006 LX Pilot, and the FM radio reception is terrible. The antenna adapter I used had a blue wire dangling from the adapter. Does anyone know if this needs to be hooked up? I didn't hook it up because I thought that it might be a remote turn on wire for a powered antenna which the Pilot doesn't have since it is part of the back glass. I also didn't hook up the blue wire (antenna turn on) in my radio harness. Should I have? There was an extra plug that used to go to my radio that is now not hooked up. Does anyone know what it was for? |
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| brooz88 |
| I have purchased a head unit for my 2003 pilot. The unit is the same one that is in the 2006 EXL. It seems I will need the same adaptor. If you happen to find out what the blue wire is for, please let me know |
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| andyschneider |
I ran into this issue with the swap of my head unit. I got the adapter from Crutchfield, and THEY claim that the blue wire is for the power antenna signal. Don't know if that's true or not - my reception on my '06 with an '04 head unit is decreased as well....
edit - here's the link from crutchfield's site...
http://www.crutchfield.com/S-cBsFVR...i=12040HD10#Tab
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| john802 |
| There's oem antenna amplifier that needs a 12v power supply. |
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| andyschneider |
quote: Originally posted by john802
There's oem antenna amplifier that needs a 12v power supply.
ok - so this means that 12v needs to go to that wire so the antenna at the other end gets the amplification it needs? Hmmm. That means that on an aftermarket unit you tie it into the power antenna feed, and for an OEM head unit you have to splice into 12v power. Sigh - means I gotta open the dash back up again to attach the wires...
Can we get confirmation on this one before I open it back up??? |
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| nguyenzpry |
| The antenna plug has two wires, one is waiting for a 12v to power the antenna amplifier (this needs to be hooked up to the blue wire auto antenna from the stereo unit). The other wire is the antenna. You can test this out by tunning to a radio station, then try connecting and disconnecting the wire, you will hear the differences. Hope this helps |
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| nguyenzpry |
quote: Originally posted by RocketFan34
I just replaced the head unit in my 2006 LX Pilot, and the FM radio reception is terrible. The antenna adapter I used had a blue wire dangling from the adapter. Does anyone know if this needs to be hooked up? I didn't hook it up because I thought that it might be a remote turn on wire for a powered antenna which the Pilot doesn't have since it is part of the back glass. I also didn't hook up the blue wire (antenna turn on) in my radio harness. Should I have? There was an extra plug that used to go to my radio that is now not hooked up. Does anyone know what it was for?
you can test it by touching that wire to the auto antenna wire coming from your stereo unit. you'll hear the difference. |
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| john802 |
quote: Originally posted by andyschneider
ok - so this means that 12v needs to go to that wire so the antenna at the other end gets the amplification it needs? Hmmm. That means that on an aftermarket unit you tie it into the power antenna feed, and for an OEM head unit you have to splice into 12v power. Sigh - means I gotta open the dash back up again to attach the wires...
Can we get confirmation on this one before I open it back up???
I'd swap the internal electronic board of the '03 oem antenna amp to Microtune #141X Antenna Amplifier electronic board so I knew it needs pwr. :) |
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| andyschneider |
So, it's apparent that the new Honda radios have a separate power feed thru the antenna connector that only applies power when the radio is on. Since the '04 EX radio I have doesn't, my proposed solution is to splice the blue wire off of the antenna adapter onto the switched power lead into the radio. This way, it gets amplified power whenever the key is turned on, but still does with the radio off. Since I typically always have the radio on, this shouldn't be a big issue.....
thanks for everyone's help here - andy |
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| brooz88 |
Which wire is the power lead? In other words, how do I identify the one I need to splice?
Thanks,
Chris |
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| andyschneider |
quote: Originally posted by brooz88
Which wire is the power lead? In other words, how do I identify the one I need to splice?
Thanks,
Chris
Here's a link to the service manual pages for the '06 head unit - look for connector A. I believe that pin A2(white/red) is the wire you want to tie into. This is the main 20 pin connector that (if you have an aftermarket head unit) that you get the spicing harness for....
http://www.hondapilot.org/forums/sh...=service+manual
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| RocketFan34 |
| Thanks for everyones help. I pulled my head unit back out today. I connected the blue/white remote turn on wire from my head unit to the blue dangling wire from my antenna adapter and boy what a difference. I could hardly pick up anything on FM before . I could not get any AM stations, but now everything works great even better than before with my stock head unit. |
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| mishapman |
OK, so I am a little slow...and having the same antenna issues.
Just purchased the Sony GT200 for my 06 LX. Have the Crutchfield harness and antenna adapter.
The Sony harness that plugs into the back of the Sony deck has a blue wire to "power antenna control lead or power supply lead of antenna booster amplifier"
The Crutchfield harness has a Blue/White "Power Antenna Turn-On" lead.
The antenna adapter has the little blue wire dangling like everyone has mentioned.
It seems like I should hook the blue antenna adapter wire into the blue one on the Sony harness. But that leaves the Blue/White lead from the Crutchfield harness with no connection.
Should the Blu/Wh lead from the Crutchfield harness be spliced into the Sony blue antenna wire and blue antenna wire connection or just taped off and forgotten.
Thanks for your help.
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| andyschneider |
quote: Originally posted by mishapman
OK, so I am a little slow...and having the same antenna issues.
Just purchased the Sony GT200 for my 06 LX. Have the Crutchfield harness and antenna adapter.
The Sony harness that plugs into the back of the Sony deck has a blue wire to "power antenna control lead or power supply lead of antenna booster amplifier"
The Crutchfield harness has a Blue/White "Power Antenna Turn-On" lead.
The antenna adapter has the little blue wire dangling like everyone has mentioned.
It seems like I should hook the blue antenna adapter wire into the blue one on the Sony harness. But that leaves the Blue/White lead from the Crutchfield harness with no connection.
Should the Blu/Wh lead from the Crutchfield harness be spliced into the Sony blue antenna wire and blue antenna wire connection or just taped off and forgotten.
Thanks for your help.
John
So, the short answer is that the blue wire on the antenna adapter should plug into the blue antena turn-on wire from the sony head unit. That leaves the blue/white wire from the Crutchfield harness end of things dangling, and that's OK, because Honda doesn't have a power antenna.
Crutchfield was pretty confused about this when I worked with them in the spring. Problem is that this blue wire for the antenna adapter is relatively new (stared with the 7th gen Accords), and it's required for the power amp for the in-glass antenna. Without power, that antenna is pretty useless. So to get power to the antenna amp you have two choices - either splice into the acc power lead so you power the ant. amp everytime the key is turned on, or you splice into an aftermarket head unit's power antenna lead, which (in theory) should supply +12 volts whenever the radio is on. I've never confirmed that this is true, but I'm pretty sure that it is.
You'll know you've got it right - if you can get fringe radio reception you've got power. If it fades out on even the stronger stations, you don't.....
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| mishapman |
Thanks everyone for the wiring advice.
Installed the Sony last night. Wired as suggested. Works like a champ.
The Sony was pretty much plug and play. I didn't use the mounting kit as I like the little cover on the pocket under the head unit. There is about 2mm of space between the unit and the pocket thingee, but it looks good enough for me. Hardly noticable, but then again, I'm not a huge stickler on aesthetics.
Thanks again.
John |
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