| pauleyc |
I've been looking under the hood to try and find out where the climate control system takes in fresh air w/o success. Anyone know where it is? I got a mouse in mine (death by blower fan) and wanted to make sure it didn't happen again.
Someone mentioned turning on recirculate before turning the car off, but it seems like the mouse would get to that point and then go through when I restart the car. My mouse rode around for 5 days before falling death to the fan b/c I know where I picked him up.
Thanks, Chad |
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| andyschneider |
| Typically the intake for the HVAC system is thru the vents near the windshield wipers, under the trailing lip of the hood..... |
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| Sportymonk |
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Originally posted by pauleyc
...My mouse rode around for 5 days before falling death to the fan b/c I know where I picked him up.
Thanks, Chad
Didn't your mama teach you not to pick up hitchhikers??:D
I had similar experience with a refrig in the garage. Little fella got too close to the fan and oopps. My fan stuck and the refrig would cool till it got too hot and shut off, then start cooling again. Repairperson simply pulled out dead mouse and all was ok. Wish I had known. |
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| andyschneider |
Ya know, I just re-read your post. Did the little critter chew thru the cabin air filter on the way to the blower fan? On all my hondas, the motor fan is past the cabin air filter, meaning either the mouse got in thru the air ducting and ate thru the cabin air filter - OR he was inside the car and crawled up thru the heater venting into the fan that way...........
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| pauleyc |
Actually on an 06 it appears the fresh air intake drops right into the blower (which lays on its side), then the air proceed to the left through the cabin filter, then through the coil. He literally droped into and was in the fan like a bad tea cup ride or hamster wheel gone bad.
I didn't know what it was, but I witnessed (or heard) him die. He fell into the blower and then it started to tick/vibrate. I wish I had known that's what it was so I could have addressed it before he started to smell. I just thought the fan motor was failing b/c I had seen a similar issue on another car.
Still fighting the dealer on this ... GM admitted the car came off their off-site lot and it was probably in there when I bought the car a few days prior. So much for the new car smell ... :16: |
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| jcantanixon |
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Originally posted by pauleyc
Actually on an 06 it appears the fresh air intake drops right into the blower (which lays on its side), then the air proceed to the left through the cabin filter, then through the coil. He literally droped into and was in the fan like a bad tea cup ride or hamster wheel gone bad.
I didn't know what it was, but I witnessed (or heard) him die. He fell into the blower and then it started to tick/vibrate. I wish I had known that's what it was so I could have addressed it before he started to smell. I just thought the fan motor was failing b/c I had seen a similar issue on another car.
Still fighting the dealer on this ... GM admitted the car came off their off-site lot and it was probably in there when I bought the car a few days prior. So much for the new car smell ... :16:
There shouldn't be a fight. This should be pretty cut and dry. They need to perform the removal and decontamination.
Notice I said "should" |
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| andyschneider |
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Originally posted by pauleyc
Actually on an 06 it appears the fresh air intake drops right into the blower (which lays on its side), then the air proceed to the left through the cabin filter, then through the coil. He literally droped into and was in the fan like a bad tea cup ride or hamster wheel gone bad.
I'm not sure this is right. When I replaced the cabin air filter, the side opposite of the fan was dirty. The side facing the fan was clean. The drop you see is (I think) the part goiing up towars the defroster area.
Probably doesn't matter since it got in there - but I (still) suspect he got let inside the car at some point and was looking for a way out.....
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| pauleyc |
Ok, so I couldn't get the cabin filter out, but I dropped the glove box and the cabin filter was about dead center of the glove box, to the left is the coil and to the right was the blower. I didn't get far enough to see how to remove the brace that is centered on the filter ... that's when I seen him in the blower (there are 3 holes in the blower and you can look inside). I would think the coil would be on the 'clean' side of the filter so it doesn't clog .. if that is correct, the blower side should get dirty. Not to mention the blower is a squirrel cage fan which takes air in the middle (where mr. mouse died) and outputs it in a perpedicular direction ... in this case towards the filter.
Now that I have talked through it, the blower is most definitely on the 'dirty' side of the filter. |
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| moe-jiller |
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Originally posted by pauleyc
Ok, so I couldn't get the cabin filter out, but I dropped the glove box and the cabin filter was about dead center of the glove box, to the left is the coil and to the right was the blower. I didn't get far enough to see how to remove the brace that is centered on the filter ... that's when I seen him in the blower (there are 3 holes in the blower and you can look inside). I would think the coil would be on the 'clean' side of the filter so it doesn't clog .. if that is correct, the blower side should get dirty. Not to mention the blower is a squirrel cage fan which takes air in the middle (where mr. mouse died) and outputs it in a particular direction ... in this case towards the filter.
Now that I have talked through it, the blower is most definitely on the 'dirty' side of the filter.
Pauleyc - your analysis above is correct. If still in doubt remove the cabin filter and run the A/C blower. Which way does the air flow? Also observe the air flow arrow on the filter. I have been through this 'clean out' process several times to remove leaf debris. Too many things get into the Honda fresh air system and flap around in the duct system. There were several forum threads on this topic in late 2004. The Honda Odessy has the same issue. Besides mice and other small rodents, leaves get in and flap against the cabin filter. At highway speed, with the A/C on and set in the Non- recirculate mode, the flapping noise is loud and distracting. Also there are only three 9 mm(?) screws holding the blower motor. You may want to drop it out to insure complete removal of the debris. |
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| andyschneider |
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Originally posted by pauleyc
Ok, so I couldn't get the cabin filter out, but I dropped the glove box and the cabin filter was about dead center of the glove box, to the left is the coil and to the right was the blower. I didn't get far enough to see how to remove the brace that is centered on the filter ... that's when I seen him in the blower (there are 3 holes in the blower and you can look inside). I would think the coil would be on the 'clean' side of the filter so it doesn't clog .. if that is correct, the blower side should get dirty. Not to mention the blower is a squirrel cage fan which takes air in the middle (where mr. mouse died) and outputs it in a perpedicular direction ... in this case towards the filter.
Now that I have talked through it, the blower is most definitely on the 'dirty' side of the filter.
So I'll admit you're right - but here's why i was confused. The same weekend I replaced the cabin filter on my pilot, I also replaced it on the civic and accord. In both of those vehicles the fan is on the clean side of the filter. On the Pilot, it's not.....
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