| sjlee |
quote:
Originally posted by mattchalmers
I agree. That is the main reason I track mpg. I have a spreadsheet that tracks mileage, as well as money spent. It helps me keep track of the overall ownership cost.
We are still averaging 17 mpg in mixed driving at 2k miles. The litmus test will be our upcoming roadtrip to Tennessee.
Another good reason to track gas mileage is that it is also a good indicator if you're having engine problems. |
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| BOYCE |
I HAVE 2400 ON MY 06 HONDA PILOT, THE FIRST WEEKEND WE MADE A TRIP TO THE MOUNTAINS, COMBINATION HIGHWAY AND TOWN DRIVING AND GOT 17.5, I HAVE CHECKED THE LAST TWO TANKS AND THEY 11.8 AND 11.9,
I HAVE GOOD NEWS TO REPORT, I NOW HAVE 5000 MILES ON MY HONDA PILOT EX-L WITH DVD 2 WD, WE JUST RETURNED FROM A TRIP TO GATLINBURG TN, AND ON ONE TANK OF GAS, INTERSTATE DRIVING ONLY NO AC ON I GOT 25.8 MPG WELL PLEASED NOW 11-29-06 |
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| mattchalmers |
| Just filled up at 2246 miles. Just over 18 mpg. Hoping for better on Friday. |
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| GreenMachine |
I've been reading some of the mileage figures new RDX owners are getting, and while I'm sure that most still haven't broken in their engines and many are watching that boost gauge peak all too often, there are reports of gas mileage of around 13 & 14mpg. :eek:
I think the Pilot does great for its size and the fact it has a V6. :) |
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| Papagayo10 |
quote:
"What are you going to do with the whole $40 you save over a 2000 mile trip?"
Hmmm, I'll probably end up buying diapers.:) |
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| Sheltz32tt |
| The highest MPG I have recieved so far was 18.1mpg. I would say 90% of that is city driving at 40-45mph. Its a 2003 EXL with 45k. sound about right? |
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| sjlee |
quote:
Originally posted by Sheltz32tt
The highest MPG I have recieved so far was 18.1mpg. I would say 90% of that is city driving at 40-45mph. Its a 2003 EXL with 45k. sound about right?
It falls between the 17/22 EPA estimate, so I would say that sounds about right... especially for mostly city driving. |
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| GreenMachine |
I take the same commute every day, around 52 miles total, no interstates, but rather suburban streets and highways (max speed limit 55mph) with stop lights. I don't experience any bumper to bumper traffic either. During Summer with the A/C on the entire time, I averaged between 17 and 18mpg. Every so often I would get over 18, but I would have to be easy on the gas the whole tank. With the cooler temps, I hit 20mpg this last tank. I only used the A/C about 8 of the 385 miles I went on that tank. I even had a few fast starts to get up to speed. I filled up with 19.2 gallons after going 40 miles with the low fuel light on.
The only time I ever got below 17mpg was with the "full" tank the dealer gave me when I bought it.. :rolleyes:
Overall, very happy with the mileage for such a big SUV with a nice V6. |
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| brianthomas |
The 10% ethanol gas is really popular here in Iowa. When I use this I always get 18mpg on my normal driving which is almost always half interstate at 70mph and half 45mph speed areas of city driving. When I pay 10 cents more for the 87 octane unleaded that has no ethanol I get right at 20 mpg. I just got back from a 2800 mile trip to Houston and calculated it for the whole trip getting 20.8mpg. I was wishing for better but had a head wind most of the time and drove 75-80mph plus some stop and go city driving.
I don't calculate every tank around home but do look at the gallons pumped vs. the trip odometer and make sure I can double the gallons number in my head and add a zero then check to see that I have traveled at least that many miles so I know it is over 20mpg. I just barely make it. Yesterday I filled and it took 15.32 gallons and the trip odometer said 321 miles. I almost always am quite conservative with my driving style. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by brianthomas
The 10% ethanol gas is really popular here in Iowa. When I use this I always get 18mpg on my normal driving which is almost always half interstate at 70mph and half 45mph speed areas of city driving. When I pay 10 cents more for the 87 octane unleaded that has no ethanol I get right at 20 mpg. I just got back from a 2800 mile trip to Houston and calculated it for the whole trip getting 20.8mpg. I was wishing for better but had a head wind most of the time and drove 75-80mph plus some stop and go city driving.
Yep, the "cheaper" 10% ethanol ends up costing you 1/2 a cent more per mile.
And that is how the corn lobby fixes the energy problem! |
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| brianthomas |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Yep, the "cheaper" 10% ethanol ends up costing you 1/2 a cent more per mile.
And that is how the corn lobby fixes the energy problem!
Plus the ethanol does not have the same federal road taxes as gasoline, that is the ONLY reason it is cheaper. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by brianthomas
Plus the ethanol does not have the same federal road taxes as gasoline, that is the ONLY reason it is cheaper.
Now you are just "piling on"! :2: :2: :2: |
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| lwschnell |
| Our 2005 EX has averaged 19.9 mpg for 23k miles. Highway mileage ranges from 20 to as hi as 27 mpg depending on speed and wind conditions. The highest was obtained at 60 mph on freeway from Missoula to Spokane. |
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| GreenMachine |
| We will be taking ours on its first road trip this week. I am hoping to get 23 or 24mpg since our last tank was 21 with the normal suburban driving. I really don't care since the SUV is so safe, but I guess knowing it gets good mileage for a vehicle its size makes it all more appealing. |
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| GreenDestiny |
| Has anyone thats done the Idle Learn Procedure noticed a difference in gas milage? |
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| pratzert |
It would be extremely helpful if everyone included in their post, if they have a 2WD or a 4WD.
Some have the info listed at the bottom of their post, but most do not indicate which one they have.
With that... I'l sya I have a 2006 EX-L RES AWD with 1500 miles on it now.
The first two tanks I averaged only 15 MPG Combo driving.
Then, I made a point to be sure to turn off the A/C and the next two tanks I got 18 MPG. ( Again, Combo driving.)
I hope for a little better than that too after more of a break-in, but if it at least stays around there, I'll be happy. I used to drive a Ford Expedition which got 12 MPG on a good day.
Tim |
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| GreenMachine |
We just went from Jacksonville to Orlando and back. I didn't need the A/C, and I used the cruise control as much as possible. I set it at 73mph for the most of the way when the limit was 70. That was enough where most everyone was passing me, but at least I didn't have to change lanes or adjust my speed too much. I went 364 miles on 14.1 gallons of gas.
25.8 mpg!!! :eek:
We have about 9,000 miles on it now. |
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| ThePilotster |
quote:
Originally posted by pratzert
I used to drive a Ford Expedition which got 12 MPG on a good day.
I hear ya!
My Tahoe got 14 on a good day with the wind behind it and my F 250 got 8mpg Put either one in 4WD and dont bother looking:eek:
I'll take 17 average city any time!... worst I got was 13 when my kid takes it out:3: |
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| pratzert |
WOW.... 25.8 MPG !
Now THAT would be something. I'd love to shove a gas milage average like that in my wife's face.
She wanted the CRV because it got like 28 MPG.
But it was not manly enough for me. The Pilot is more my style.
Although, I would have considered the 2007 model CRV.... it definately had more style to it. ( Still too small. )
I've only got 1500 miles on my 2006 Pilot AWD, so I look for better milage as it breaks in a little more.
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by pratzert
WOW.... 25.8 MPG !
Now THAT would be something. I'd love to shove a gas milage average like that in my wife's face.
She wanted the CRV because it got like 28 MPG.
But it was not manly enough for me. The Pilot is more my style.
Although, I would have considered the 2007 model CRV.... it definately had more style to it. ( Still too small. )
I've only got 1500 miles on my 2006 Pilot AWD, so I look for better milage as it breaks in a little more.
Tim
I only get a 2 to 4 MPG difference between my CR-V and Pilot. |
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| pratzert |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
I only get a 2 to 4 MPG difference between my CR-V and Pilot.
Hmmm... now that's interesting. So what is your average MPG on the CRV ?
Thanks, Tim |
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| ThePilotster |
quote:
Originally posted by pratzert
Hmmm... now that's interesting. So what is your average MPG on the CRV ?
Thanks, Tim
We had an 06 CR-V as well... Pilot average is 17 ... CR-V 20/21 city |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by pratzert
Hmmm... now that's interesting. So what is your average MPG on the CRV ?
Thanks, Tim
I think about 20 to 22, but it gets mostly mix driving, and with my style of driving, I call that "city". |
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| tgrimes |
| I thought I'd post my mileage tracking for the first three months (2000 miles). No surprises, performance as promised by Honda. I'm pleased. I'll probably track every fill up for the next 12 months or so. |
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| radiobiz |
We keep a little notebook in our Pilot. Last trip from North Carolina to Alabama and back we averaged around 22 mpg with one tank getting 23.1 mpg or so. Not too shabby.
I don't recall what our city driving looks like exactly, but it seems like when my wife drives it's around 16 or 17 mpg and when I drive it's more like 14 or 15 mpg on the good days. :rolleyes: |
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| mattchalmers |
| Just filled up after a return trip from Houston and a little city driving: 19.94 mpg which is not bad, given the fact that I returned from Houston at 85-95 mph. Also, it was the most fuel I have ever put in the Pilot: 19.964 gallons! |
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| mmmmark |
Took a 2500 mile trip over Thanksgiving with our 06 EX-L (2WD).
I averaged nearly 23 mpg on the whole trip, with an average speed of about just under 80. (incidentally tanks of gas with lower speed average [65mph=26mpg] made MUCH better mileage than the tanks averaging 85 mph [85mph=18mpg]!)
I think the VCM reallly shows it can save a few MPGs on trips, but it has the tendency of disengaging on the slightest grades. I found that I could keep it on longer (supposedly helping mileage) by not using the cruise on hillier terrain. My "calibrated foot" would help keep that ECO light burning. ;)
YMMV |
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| danpilot |
On my 2005 EX-L, (4wd) gas mileage on a heavy commute of about 13 miles each way, with lots of stop and go and one stretch of about 3 miles on an interstate (speeds are 10 mph with bursts up to 40) , averages about 17.5-18 mpg.
On a highway trip to Florida, 3 people in the car, going 75-80 mph, we averaged 22-22.5 mpg.
On another trip to New York, loaded with 8 people (4 kids) and two huge duffle bags on the roof, going about 65-70 mph, we averaged 20-21 mpg.
Our Pilot now has 37k miles and mileage has been improving. The first few months on a similar daily commute we got 16 mpg, now it's often around 18 mpg.
I'm happy. |
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| jpd0363 |
Most of the time the Pilot averages about 13 mpg for me. I was excited to get 14.8 mpg the last time I added gas. Had some highway miles going to NH from the bottom of MA.
Funny, part of the reason I bought the Pilot back in July was because of the high price of gas. Figured there would be some good deals to be found on SUVs and it was true.
I would never dare complain about gas mileage because of my situation. Most of my commute is either going to work 3.5 miles away or local driving within a 3 mile radius. The mpg takes a beating because I live on a 1/4 mile, very steep hill and work on a 3/4 mile, very steep hill. Also, when I get the newspaper on my way to work the engine is left running and I always warm the car up before putting it in drive. These little things might not seem like much but looking at it percentage-wise it's pretty substantial.
I could look at it as bad mpg, but the minimal amount of gas I require for my commuting won't allow for any negativity.
Additonally, it's a 4WD EXL. |
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| CNJ |
| Well I've got 1600 mi on the pilot now. I got 16.3 mpg ave on the last 2 tanks (16.2 - 16.4). This is about 70% city / 30% hwy with about 150lbs of cargo driving very easy 90% of the time and some short trips! Not great, but after the 13.5 mpg on the first measured tank I'll take it! I hope to get at least the 17mpg stated when broken in and I'll be happy. 22mpg hwy and I'll be very happy. 06 EX 4wd :rolleyes: |
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| WiredHonda |
quote:
Originally posted by CNJ
Well I've got 1600 mi on the pilot now. I got 16.3 mpg ave on the last 2 tanks (16.2 - 16.4). This is about 70% city / 30% hwy with about 150lbs of cargo driving very easy 90% of the time and some short trips! Not great, but after the 13.5 mpg on the first measured tank I'll take it! I hope to get at least the 17mpg stated when broken in and I'll be happy. 22mpg hwy and I'll be very happy. 06 EX 4wd :rolleyes:
I am right there with you. My first tanks were ok, but have gotten better. My daily driving is similar too. I am getting closer to 18 mpg these days.:) (mostly city driving) |
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| Anpobas3 |
and more... :P :P :)
regards, Anpobas3
Cleaned up post by colorider |
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| sjlee |
| Guess a few kids who have nothing else better to do have gotten onto the site... :3: |
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| tangotango99 |
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Originally posted by sjlee
Guess a few kids who have nothing else better to do have gotten onto the site... :3:
If we ignore it maybe it will go away:4: |
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| Bigfoot |
2006 Pilot EX - LN purchased Sept. 1, 2006
2006 Fuel Summary
Total Quantity (Gallons) 293.783
Total Cost ($) $636.44
Average Price ($/G) 2.173
Average Economy (MPG) 16.30
Total # Fill-ups 23
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| msquared |
17,180 miles on the Pilot; Mobil 1 oil; Chevron 87 octane fuel
Best tank - 19.8 (about 60% easy highway driving at 65-70 mph)
Worst tank - 16.4 (80% stop and go)
I consider this reasonable, considering the weight and performance of the vehicle. |
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| Mark House |
| I drove 1285 miles at Christmas in my new Pilot, highway speeds of 70-80 mph, 6600 ft. elevation to sea level. Averaged 19.3 mpg. The car only had about 1500 miles on it when I left. Interestingly, I always get better mileage using gas purchased in Colorado or New Mexico than in Texas. I know more alcohol in the mix reduces mileage, but I don't know the mix in these states. I was disappointed until I read all the postings here. But my '99 Tahoe and '98 Toyota Avalon both get the highway mileage that the window sticker promised.... |
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| chazexl |
| im getting 12 -13 city and 15-16 highway. its horrible. maintence is on time.what could it be? |
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| sjlee |
quote:
Originally posted by chazexl
im getting 12 -13 city and 15-16 highway. its horrible. maintence is on time.what could it be?
You could check the air in the tires, but ultimately, it'll come down to your driving. |
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| Robsa |
| 06 EX-L 2wd. Just made a trip from San Antonio to LA. Huge winds in Texas put my mileage for the leg at 22. From El Paso to Phoenix the ECO light rarely went off. 24.3mpg at 80mph with the cruise control on. I'm very very very pleased with my Pilot. |
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| chazexl |
| tire pressure is 36 around abd driving is taking it eassy.this sucks |
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| sjlee |
quote:
Originally posted by chazexl
tire pressure is 36 around abd driving is taking it eassy.this sucks
36 psi on all four tires on our Pilot as well. We're getting MPG in the EPA estimated range (17-22).
"Taking it easy" is subjective and isn't always going to help with gas mileage. Are you doing a lot of idling or in stop-and-go traffic? Any modifications to the vehicle? Do you do alot of towing?
These can all affect gas mileage. |
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| CNJ |
quote:
Originally posted by chazexl
im getting 12 -13 city and 15-16 highway. its horrible. maintence is on time.what could it be?
I did get 13mpg on one tank, but my pilot was new and was pure city (stop and go), warming up etc. Now I seem to get 15-16.5 around town, but there's always some hwy driving in there. But 15-16 on the HWY! There's something wrong if that is pure HWY! unless your going 90mph. You may want to get it checked. I'd be concerned also. The Pilot should get at least 20mpg on the HWY IMO. |
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| mikesrc |
I must being doing something wrong. My combined city/highway is around 18. Highway is way over 20. Have not taken a long trip yet but I would guess it will get 22/24. On top of that I drive this thing like I just stole it. Runs like a raped ape and good gas mileage. could not be happier
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| Mang |
| I have only put 1200 miles on my new pilot, but I have been tracking my MPG using fueleconomy.org since the 2nd tank. I have received 19 something every tank during mixed highway freeway driving. I'm happy with that, given its winter and people say mileage is worse in the winter. |
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| rocky |
quote:
Originally posted by Robsa
06 EX-L 2wd. Just made a trip from San Antonio to LA. Huge winds in Texas put my mileage for the leg at 22. From El Paso to Phoenix the ECO light rarely went off. 24.3mpg at 80mph with the cruise control on. I'm very very very pleased with my Pilot.
Maybe there is something to this eco light after all if you can do 80 mph and 24.3 mpg. |
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| mmmmark |
quote:
Originally posted by rocky
Maybe there is something to this eco light after all if you can do 80 mph and 24.3 mpg.
I found that my foot can do slightly better than the cruise in keeping the ECO light on. On a trip of about 2000 miles I averaged over 24 mpg, and most of that trip was 70-85 mph.
I can almost achieve 26 mpg if I drive 60 and that decreases up to about 24 at 80.
On my 2006, the ECO light seems to go off at about 85 mph, which seems to be about 3000 RPMs, IIRC. |
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| tfrain |
| Someone else posted this in here as well I think.. but I am slowly reading through the manual and discovered that the A/C really is on when you turn on the heater in order to dehumidify the air - but the light doesn't come on. You have to actually hit the AC button once to light it up, and then again to turn it off - at least that is what I got out of reading the manual. I haven't checked our gas mileage yet (at 500 miles) but from what I can tell so far it has sucked - I'm going to make sure the wife and I make sure the AC is actually off and see if it improves it - of course after 1000 miles or so I expect it to get better. |
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| sjlee |
quote:
Originally posted by tfrain
Someone else posted this in here as well I think.. but I am slowly reading through the manual and discovered that the A/C really is on when you turn on the heater in order to dehumidify the air - but the light doesn't come on. You have to actually hit the AC button once to light it up, and then again to turn it off - at least that is what I got out of reading the manual. I haven't checked our gas mileage yet (at 500 miles) but from what I can tell so far it has sucked - I'm going to make sure the wife and I make sure the AC is actually off and see if it improves it - of course after 1000 miles or so I expect it to get better.
For that very reason, I always make sure that the A/C Off indicator is on when driving if I don't need the A/C. That's one feature of the automatic climate control system that I like to keep manually set. |
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| JimB823 |
quote:
Originally posted by tfrain
You have to actually hit the AC button once to light it up, and then again to turn it off
not on my 03... you just hit it once and the ac is off indicator comes on... wife drove the pilot last week because of the weather and left the ac on all week... I got 15.7 mpg for the week :( |
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| vrnjak |
Hello everyone. New here. My wife and I just bought our 07 Pilot this January. Noticed that the gas mileage wasn't too much better than my 98 Explorer. I was asking around the shop floor what might be done to incease gas mileage. One recommendation was to switch to K&N Air Filters (p/n33-2200). They run about $45 ea and are intended to last for life with a few soap and water washings (and re-oiling) during the course of its usage. The theory and technology behind them sound interesting and plausible.
I didn't see it listed in this thead. Has anyone tried it, and, if so, to what effect? |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by vrnjak
. . . .One recommendation was to switch to K&N Air Filters (p/n33-2200). They run about $45 ea and are intended to last for life with a few soap and water washings (and re-oiling) during the course of its usage. The theory and technology behind them sound interesting and plausible.
I didn't see it listed in this thread. Has anyone tried it, and, if so, to what effect?
A high flow filter WILL NOT increase gas mileage.
There has been much written on the subject.
Remember 99.9% of the time the single biggest restriction is the throttle plate.
During all this time, the filter has ABSOLUTELY no effect on airflow. |
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| sjlee |
quote:
Originally posted by vrnjak
Hello everyone. New here. My wife and I just bought our 07 Pilot this January. Noticed that the gas mileage wasn't too much better than my 98 Explorer. I was asking around the shop floor what might be done to incease gas mileage. One recommendation was to switch to K&N Air Filters (p/n33-2200). They run about $45 ea and are intended to last for life with a few soap and water washings (and re-oiling) during the course of its usage. The theory and technology behind them sound interesting and plausible.
I didn't see it listed in this thead. Has anyone tried it, and, if so, to what effect?
There is quite a bit of debate over whether or not K&N air filters actually help with performance. One drawback is that these type of filters allow more "dirt" into the engine than a regular paper air filter.
One other thing is that they are over-simplifying the cleaning process. You have to use a special cleaning solvent to clean the filter, then reoil it. It's not a difficult task, but it isn't a quick process.
If you add up the price of the filter, the cleaning solvent and the oil (not to mention the time to do it or cost to have someone else do it), it's debateable if it is even cost-effective.
Give your Pilot some time to break-in. Many owners have found that their gas mileage improves after a few months. In addition, driving style seems to play a bigger role with the Pilot than some other vehicles.
Which engine and model did you have with the Explorer? If you had the V6, it actually wasn't rated that much worse than the Pilot...
1998 Ford Explorer 4WD (V6) - 16/20 MPG (manual); 15/19 MPG (auto)
1998 Ford Explorer RWD (V6) - 15/20 MPG (auto)
2007 Honda Pilot AWD - 17/22 MPG
2007 Honda Pilot 2WD - 18/24 MPG |
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| vrnjak |
Thanks for the quick replies. I used to drive a 98 Explorer, V6, 4WD and I used to see city mileages of 15.7 and hwy mileage of 20.0. I guess I did pretty well compared to listed MPH's.
Commenting on the manner of driving I've noticed that I do need to nearly remove my foot off of the throtle occasionally to get the engine to shift in normal driving conditions. I'm able to overlook this hinderence because of the pleasure I get in the car's overall build quality and Honda's well deserved reputation for power train quality.
While I'm at it, can any here comment on their experience with the Filtermag or Bearclaw oil filter and transmission pan magnets? Another thing I saw while looking into ways to improve the performance and life of the car. |
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| sjlee |
quote:
Originally posted by vrnjak
Thanks for the quick replies. I used to drive a 98 Explorer, V6, 4WD and I used to see city mileages of 15.7 and hwy mileage of 20.0. I guess I did pretty well compared to listed MPH's.
Commenting on the manner of driving I've noticed that I do need to nearly remove my foot off of the throtle occasionally to get the engine to shift in normal driving conditions. I'm able to overlook this hinderence because of the pleasure I get in the car's overall build quality and Honda's well deserved reputation for power train quality.
While I'm at it, can any here comment on their experience with the Filtermag or Bearclaw oil filter and transmission pan magnets? Another thing I saw while looking into ways to improve the performance and life of the car.
The Pilot has a drive-by-wire throttle, which is much more sensitive than the throttle on your old Explorer, so even the slightest pressure on the gas pedal will make the Pilot accelerate... definitely takes some getting used to.
Regarding the magnetic oil filters, I've never used any in any of my vehicles or do I know any one who has. Conceptually, it sounds like a great idea, but I'm not sure how much benefit they really offer. First off, it would only apply to magnetic particles small enough to get past the filtration media in the filter. Secondly, if you're getting metal particles in your oil, then there's something wrong with your engine and simply "catching" all the particles isn't going to stop the problem.
If you're a "Car Talk" fan, here's a link to their opinion on the matter...
http://www.cartalk.com/content/colu...ovember/04.html
I have over 160k miles on my Integra right now and all I've ever used were Honda and SuperTech oil filters... still doesn't burn any oil and the engine runs great. |
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| tfrain |
You are right - I realized it today when we went to the zoo. I think that part in the manual is actually for the LX models (hit it once for on and then again for off) but I may have been reading it wrong.
quote:
Originally posted by JimB823
not on my 03... you just hit it once and the ac is off indicator comes on... wife drove the pilot last week because of the weather and left the ac on all week... I got 15.7 mpg for the week :(
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| tfrain |
quote:
Originally posted by vrnjak
Hello everyone. New here. My wife and I just bought our 07 Pilot this January. Noticed that the gas mileage wasn't too much better than my 98 Explorer. I was asking around the shop floor what might be done to incease gas mileage. One recommendation was to switch to K&N Air Filters (p/n33-2200). They run about $45 ea and are intended to last for life with a few soap and water washings (and re-oiling) during the course of its usage. The theory and technology behind them sound interesting and plausible.
I didn't see it listed in this thead. Has anyone tried it, and, if so, to what effect?
Don't use the K&N filter. As the other poster said, they allow more dirt into the engine. I have read many postings of people that have sent their oil off for analysis at Blackstone labs after doing the change - their oil has more silicate in it which is an indicator that dirt is getting into the engine. If anything, it MIGHT make a 1mpg difference, but probably won't do anything and it isn't worth the chance of possible premature engine failure.
I think we got like 17 mpg on our second tank of gas, which I don't like, but the truck only has 600 miles on it. From reading on here, the mileage should increase some as time goes on. If not, I'd still rather have a Pilot that gets 17mpg and will last 20 years than a domestic that gets 17mpg and will fall apart after 10 years. |
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| Mang |
| I might be worth noting that K&N filters should be oiled with the correct type of oil to properly stop dirt from passing through it. I have a hunch that a lot of K&N filter users don't oil their filters. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by Mang
I might be worth noting that K&N filters should be oiled with the correct type of oil to properly stop dirt from passing through it. I have a hunch that a lot of K&N filter users don't oil their filters.
Many don't clean and oil them often enough.
Others over oil them.
Two good reasons not to put them on typical road cars. |
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| rocky |
Just wrapped up 2100 miles in a week mostly on I95 and i85 on my way to and from Greenville SC.
Several tanks went through at 23.8mpg. One miscreant tank was 19.8. from 4am in the morning to about 8.39-9am. Similar speeds but why? |
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| andyschneider |
quote:
Originally posted by rocky
Just wrapped up 2100 miles in a week mostly on I95 and i85 on my way to and from Greenville SC.
Several tanks went through at 23.8mpg. One miscreant tank was 19.8. from 4am in the morning to about 8.39-9am. Similar speeds but why?
Too early in the morning for them there Integrity tires. Time to change 'em. :2:
Seriously, though - any speed difference at that time? Wet roads vs dry? Headwind? Sometimes the littlest thing can throw mpg out the window. Good mpg, though!
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| rulebreaker |
Wow you all really worry about the gas mileage way to much,
Heck my other SUV is a 2006 Kia Sorento EX with Leather RWD 200HP engine and Im lucky if I get 15 MPG, the way I see it if my new 2007 2WD Ex-L w/Nav Pilot gets me 16MPG i'll be ecstatic
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| rocky |
quote:
Originally posted by andyschneider
Too early in the morning for them there Integrity tires. Time to change 'em. :2:
Seriously, though - any speed difference at that time? Wet roads vs dry? Headwind? Sometimes the littlest thing can throw mpg out the window. Good mpg, though!
andy
Last summer I drove inland to Harrisburg then south down the Shanandoahs (spelling?) 90 plus so ac plus climb into the hills at the end.
As the interstate from NJ to Harrisburg was under several inches of ice, drove the NJ Turnpike and 95 then 85. temps in the 30-50 so no a/c
I'm going to put the Michelin xpcs I took off my Land Rover on for next winter. They are half worn. They will last 25k |
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| t2188na |
Hi All,
2003 Pilot EX 46575 Miles. Short trips. Sat & Sunday to the golf course county roads 80 miles round trip. Not using much a/c yet. Cross Terrains inflated at 44 LBS. Ride is still very good. One person in the Pilot 99.9% of time. Air Temps 75 - 85. 87 Octane. Not a lead foot driver. I have reformed with the exception of county roads.
MPG Tracking: May to July 6/07.
7 Fill-ups/measurements
Avg MPG: 20.06
First Tank May: 17.71
Most Recent Tank: Today 20.53
Metro. Detroit, MI
Vehicle burns less gas as outside temp gets warmer.
I briefly saw in an on-line newspaper that a Toyota owner is sueing for avg MPG misrepresentation.
Busy this weekend. May not reply soon. |
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| GreenMachine |
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Originally posted by t2188na
Hi All,
Cross Terrains inflated at 44 LBS. Ride is still very good.
Wow, that's a lot of air! |
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| Nathan_P |
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Originally posted by GreenMachine
Wow, that's a lot of air!
Not if the tires are rated for it. The Goodyear Integrity has a maximum recommendation of 44psi also. I keep mine @ 40psi and think anything less than 36 feels too "soft" because that is when I can feel the tires tuck under when turning a corner. |
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| GreenMachine |
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Originally posted by Nathan_P
Not if the tires are rated for it. The Goodyear Integrity has a maximum recommendation of 44psi also.
That doesn't mean you fill it to the max. But hey, if you teeth can handle the ride over bumps, more power to you. |
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| Nathan_P |
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Originally posted by GreenMachine
That doesn't mean you fill it to the max. But hey, if you teeth can handle the ride over bumps, more power to you.
I didn't say I did fill mine to the max., I said I put 40psi in mine. Maybe you have something wrong with your suspension but mine is VERY SMOOTH with 40psi in the tires and feels more stable to me (especially when turning) then with a lower psi. |
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| GreenMachine |
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Originally posted by Nathan_P
I didn't say I did fill mine to the max., I said I put 40psi in mine. Maybe you have something wrong with your suspension but mine is VERY SMOOTH with 40psi in the tires and feels more stable to me (especially when turning) then with a lower psi.
No, nothing wrong with our '06's suspension. You must be a race car driver to "feel" the tires tuck under when cornering. I don't think I have ever heard of that. Maybe you should have bought an FX35 with the optional 20's and low profile tires. Really though, I don't take corners in the Pilot where I worry about the tire tucking under.
Too much air can also lead to premature wear in the center of your tire. Enjoy the ride though. |
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| Pilot-Matt |
St. Augustine Beach, FL
Orlando, FL (Universal Studios & Disney World)
300.0 ----- 19.69 mpg, $46.60 (Mountains of WV)
344.2 ----- 21.45 mpg, $44.74
310.8 ----- 20.26 mpg, $44.79
263.8 ----- 18.73 mpg, $40.00 (Mixed driving)
292.0 ----- 19.87 mpg, $44.08 (Mixed driving)
301.7 ----- 20.41 mpg, $44.18
292.5 ----- 19.91 mpg, $43.78 (Mountains of WV)
200.0 ----- 20.10 mpg, $27.26
2305 Total Miles
20.05 Avg Mpg
114.8 Total Gallons
$335.43 Fuel used
* With hard shell luggage carrier & 3rd row down and packed with gear.
* A/C
* Avg Highway Speed - 75mph |
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| tfrain |
We got just under 19 this past week when we went to Destin from North MS - approx 1000 Miles roundtrip as we went by my Uncle's house in Alabama on the way back. This is an 07 4X4 with myself, the wife, our 1 year old and the back cramful of stuff. We went about 82 or 83 when on the 70mph roads. No turtle or hitch carrier. Obviously the air was running the whole time.
I'm pretty satisfied with this mileage.
The Pilot had her first oil change the week before with conventional oil (which was done by my favorite mechanic....myself!!). I wanted to go ahead and put synthetic in, but decided to use conventional once more just to make sure the rings and valve seals were well seated. The Pilot is one of the easiest vehicles to change oil in that I have ever owned. Super quick - even my wife was surprised. I didn't jack mine up - it was tight but possible for me.
I suspect if we had slowed it down to 75 or so on the fast roads and I had used synthetic for this oil change it would have been over 20.
Additionally, the beach was awesome!! Our first vacation in 2 years. Definitely different with the baby - not a lot of "relaxation" so to speak but still immensely enjoyable and LOADS better than going to work!!
Yall have a great day.
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| vrnjak |
I have some data that I can contribute to this discussion of our trip from WI to Yellowstone NP and back (via Black Hills, SD & Jackson, WY)
3290 mile round trip
A/C on almost all the time (between 90-100ºF outside during entire time)
3700 miles on Pilot EXL '07 to begin with
first oil change with 5W-20 synethetic the day prior to leaving
about 1000 lbs. of people and stuff on board
lots of uphill acceleration (at times 4000 - 5000 RPM during climes w/ crusie control tyring to maintain 83 MPH)
167.77 gallons used
19.61 avg trip MPH
I all things considered, I was happy with the results. I was hoping to not fall below 19 MPH before we left. |
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| gewf631 |
2003 Pilot EX-L ~ 65500 Miles.
Only difference from stock is that we added Cross Terrains last year.
Just finished a 2,400 mile trip from Chicago to Mt. Rushmore. Family of 5 - if I had to guess, I'd say about 750 pounds (people and luggage).
Trip average 20.1 mpg
High, 25.4 and 24.9 mpg
Low, 15.3 mpg (bucking a 40mph headwind).
The last time did a major road trip, the Pilot only had ~10,000 miles, and we topped-off at just under 24mpg. |
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| Wolfman_matt |
I have to agree with Nathan_P on the recent postings. I recently took my air pressure (GY Integrity) from about 35 to 39 psi.
I did this to improve my tire life as I seemed to have better luck historically with tire life at slightly higher pressures. It did not result in a noticeable increase in ride harshness.
In addition I got the best gas mileage ever over the last half dozen tank fulls. Historically the best I ever got was 20 mpg. With the truck fully loaded I got almost 22. On the next trip while traveling by myself I got 438 miles on one tank (19.1 gallons) for a record 22.9 mpg. I normally wouldn't push it that far but got stuck between gas stations.
As a side note my truck has about 80k and the tires have anout 20k on them.
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| igjoe02 |
About twice a month I drive the same 130 mile stretch and can see a difference in fuel economy from driving 70(22mpg) and driving 80(20 if I'm lucky, usually a little over 19)... I have 33,000 miles and I'm about at the EPA Estimates also 17/22.
*** This is with 2 adults 1 dog and 3 suitcases |
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| jestmaty |
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Originally posted by igjoe02
About twice a month I drive the same 130 mile stretch and can see a difference in fuel economy from driving 70(22mpg) and driving 80(20 if I'm lucky, usually a little over 19)... I have 33,000 miles and I'm about at the EPA Estimates also 17/22.
*** This is with 2 adults 1 dog and 3 suitcases
You know what is kinda strange about hwy speeds??
The engine rpms are 'essentially' the same @ 70mph and 80mph, yet rolling resistance and air resistance really penalize you gas mileage wise.
Like 15% less fuel economy per gallon :rolleyes:
And..... more frequent fill ups on a long trip due to lower mileage means that I buy more unnecessary stuff at each stop, further depleting my cash:3: |
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| togolago |
| I haven't seen it so bad for mine as of yet! I have an 03 and I got 16 mpg towing my four wheeler up the mountains in utah last weekend. Maybe it might have something to do with the way it is tuned. Spark plugs and off timing can cause gas mileage to go down. |
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| powers1481@msn. |
| I have an 05 exl - we are really disappointed with the fuel milage. The dealer told us it would get better at 5000 - it didn't. We now have 25,000 miles on it and it still gets the 13.5 city - 18-19 hwy - 10-11 towing the boat. The only way to get better on the hwy is to drive under 65 mph. By the way we live in flat Florida and have tried every driving style including super conservitive. Our previous 2000 Expidition with the 5.3 got 13 and 16 and towing the boat got 14 - more room, more power, more comfort, more toys for a couple mpg. |
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| Nathan_P |
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Originally posted by powers1481@msn.
I have an 05 exl - we are really disappointed with the fuel milage. The dealer told us it would get better at 5000 - it didn't. We now have 25,000 miles on it and it still gets the 13.5 city - 18-19 hwy - 10-11 towing the boat. The only way to get better on the hwy is to drive under 65 mph. By the way we live in flat Florida and have tried every driving style including super conservitive. Our previous 2000 Expidition with the 5.3 got 13 and 16 and towing the boat got 14 - more room, more power, more comfort, more toys for a couple mpg.
So, are you towing the boat more than you aren't or something? Granted your mileages are a bit on the low side, but based on your numbers the Pilot gets better mileage in the city & on the highway witbout the boat..but only a couple MPG less when towing. It seems like it averages out for you unless you are always pulling the boat. |
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| sjlee |
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Originally posted by powers1481@msn.
I have an 05 exl - we are really disappointed with the fuel milage. The dealer told us it would get better at 5000 - it didn't. We now have 25,000 miles on it and it still gets the 13.5 city - 18-19 hwy - 10-11 towing the boat. The only way to get better on the hwy is to drive under 65 mph. By the way we live in flat Florida and have tried every driving style including super conservitive. Our previous 2000 Expidition with the 5.3 got 13 and 16 and towing the boat got 14 - more room, more power, more comfort, more toys for a couple mpg.
Have you checked your tire pressures? That can contribute to poor gas mileage. In addition, your definition of "super conservative" may vary to others. We have the same year and model Pilot as you do, but get gas mileage that falls between the estimated range of 17-22. We don't have a boat, so I cannot comment on what our mileage would be when towing.
The gas mileage is still higher than what you were getting in your Expedition. In addition, of course the Expedition would be bigger and roomier... it's bigger than the Pilot as well. :rolleyes: |
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| tfrain |
I got freaking 14mpg two tanks ago. No idea why. Not towing a boat, just a weird anomaly. We usually get 16 or 17. Got 19 on a trip to FL doing 80-85 most of the way.
I'm just not happy with the inconsistency and the 16mpg. That just bothers me. If it was 20 with everyday driving I would be super happy. Or even 18 or 19. But 16 - there is just something about that that bothers me A LOT.
This is a 07 EXL AWD |
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| sjlee |
quote:
Originally posted by tfrain
I got freaking 14mpg two tanks ago. No idea why. Not towing a boat, just a weird anomaly. We usually get 16 or 17. Got 19 on a trip to FL doing 80-85 most of the way.
I'm just not happy with the inconsistency and the 16mpg. That just bothers me. If it was 20 with everyday driving I would be super happy. Or even 18 or 19. But 16 - there is just something about that that bothers me A LOT.
This is a 07 EXL AWD
Well, think about it this way... the 2008 Pilot has no changes, but with the new EPA estimates it is rated at 15-20... which is where your gas mileage is falling.
20 MPG with everyday driving is probably not a realistic expectation... even with the old estimate of 17-22... unless you're doing 90% highway driving.
16 MPG is only 1 MPG lower than the old 17 city EPA estimate. That can be attributed to a few things like tire pressure and driving style. |
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| btk467 |
We traded in our 03'Pilot EX-L for 06'CR-V two year ago.
The best mileage was 21 mpg for two summer month in the row.
Tires were 38PSI, A/C 80% off, 80% City driving.
I did two times Idle learning until I got this figures.
Is the new 2007/2008 Pilot better or worst than 2003 Pilot?
I may buy one for my wife. She is crazy about this SUV.
Thanks, |
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| sjlee |
quote:
Originally posted by btk467
We traded in our 03'Pilot EX-L for 06'CR-V two year ago.
The best mileage was 21 mpg for two summer month in the row.
Tires were 38PSI, A/C 80% off, 80% City driving.
I did two times Idle learning until I got this figures.
Is the new 2007/2008 Pilot better or worst than 2003 Pilot?
I may buy one for my wife. She is crazy about this SUV.
Thanks,
Despite the EPA estimates being the same for the 2003 and 2007 Pilots, 2007 owners report getting slightly worse gas mileage (probably due to the minor change to the front end).
If you're really concerned about gas mileage and don't need AWD, you should consider the 2WD version with VCM. |
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| lizzy40 |
| I have a 2 WD, 2007 Pilot with the VCM and it has not helped me. I constatnly take my milage and I have only averaged 16.44 of combined city and highway. I have never once reached 18. Have gotten close but have not touched it yet. I have 8000 miles on my pilot now. |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by lizzy40
I have a 2 WD, 2007 Pilot with the VCM and it has not helped me. I constatnly take my milage and I have only averaged 16.44 of combined city and highway. I have never once reached 18. Have gotten close but have not touched it yet. I have 8000 miles on my pilot now.
Two questions.
1) Exactly what do you call "combined city and highway"?
2) Exactly how do you measure your MPG? |
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| tfrain |
quote:
Originally posted by sjlee
Well, think about it this way... the 2008 Pilot has no changes, but with the new EPA estimates it is rated at 15-20... which is where your gas mileage is falling.
20 MPG with everyday driving is probably not a realistic expectation... even with the old estimate of 17-22... unless you're doing 90% highway driving.
16 MPG is only 1 MPG lower than the old 17 city EPA estimate. That can be attributed to a few things like tire pressure and driving style.
yeah, but the wife and I dont' drive aggressively and it is still getting basically what it should be getting for 100% city driving. We live in the suburbs and do mostly interstate and some sideroad driving. That is what is frustrating. If I was stop and going it all the time I would be perfectly satisifed. |
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| sjlee |
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Originally posted by tfrain
yeah, but the wife and I dont' drive aggressively and it is still getting basically what it should be getting for 100% city driving. We live in the suburbs and do mostly interstate and some sideroad driving. That is what is frustrating. If I was stop and going it all the time I would be perfectly satisifed.
Driving aggressive is one thing. How about starting from a stop? Do you ease onto the accelerator or press it down a few inches to get going? Are you constantly the first one off the line when the light turns green?
We live in the suburbs as well, and we average about 18 MPG. I don't think we drive the car like an old lady, but we're also not trying to win traffic light drag races either. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by tfrain
yeah, but the wife and I dont' drive aggressively and it is still getting basically what it should be getting for 100% city driving. We live in the suburbs and do mostly interstate and some sideroad driving. That is what is frustrating. If I was stop and going it all the time I would be perfectly satisifed.
Two questions.
1) Exactly what do you call "mostly interstate and some sideroad driving"?
2) Exactly how do you measure your MPG? |
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| shafi's Pilot |
| CAn somebody please tell me possibilities as to why I am getting 11 MPG city???? I dont drive aggressive... is this even possible on an 03 ex-l??? This is the reason Y i DIDNT buy a Hummer! |
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| lizzy40 |
| Ha, ha, ha. I am with you on that. I keep thinking if I am going to get this crappy of gas mileage then I should have bought a full size SUV. They are getting the same gas mileage as me. My brother in law has a Chevy Tahoe that gets the same gas mileage as me. I think there should be a class action suit or something with Honda Corp because of false advertising. I barely even get the estimated millage in the small print part of the sticker. I am very upset with Honda for claiming great gas mileage when it stinks. Most of my time I get 14 to 15 MPG and I drive carefully most of the time and have nothing added on to my outside of my car besides crossbars. I get 14 through 17 on city and highway. I have never yet even with all highway driving gotten 18. Haven't ever touched that. Got close but that was it. I also have a 2 WD so I should be getting better then that because I have VMS. |
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| sjlee |
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Originally posted by lizzy40
Ha, ha, ha. I am with you on that. I keep thinking if I am going to get this crappy of gas mileage then I should have bought a full size SUV. They are getting the same gas mileage as me. My brother in law has a Chevy Tahoe that gets the same gas mileage as me. I think there should be a class action suit or something with Honda Corp because of false advertising. I barely even get the estimated millage in the small print part of the sticker. I am very upset with Honda for claiming great gas mileage when it stinks. Most of my time I get 14 to 15 MPG and I drive carefully most of the time and have nothing added on to my outside of my car besides crossbars. I get 14 through 17 on city and highway. I have never yet even with all highway driving gotten 18. Haven't ever touched that. Got close but that was it. I also have a 2 WD so I should be getting better then that because I have VMS.
First of all, the gas mileage estimates come from the EPA, not Honda, so if you have a complaint, direct it to them.
Secondly, many people on this site get gas mileage that fall between the 17-22 MPG, including myself.
Many things affect gas mileage, some within your power to change (driving style) and some not directly in your power (engine problem). |
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