| spikeit1 |
Has anyone bought NapaGold oil filters from www.fleetfilter.com? Their prices are ~50% lower than Napa's.
I am thinking of purchasing the 51356 filter for my '06 Pilot from them but don't know if this is a legit company.
BTW, are folks using the 51334 wix/napagold or the 51356 wix/napagold oil filter for their Pilots?
Your feedback is appreciated
spikeit1 -- long time reader of this forum, first time poster |
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| Rapid Rob |
I have read oil filter reports concerning the Napa Gold. It did surprisingly well. Many of those "other names" have but one or two manufacturer. I would expect the N. Gold to serve you well. Make sure they don't do the shuffle on you & send the cheaper Napa.
I use O.E.
...and thank you for opening a can of worms. :) |
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| Sunday Rider |
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...and thank you for opening a can of worms. :)
Good thing N_Jay is away.:D |
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| ctobio |
If those are really WIX/Napa 51356 filters, that's a really good price at 3.39/ea. I paid around $5.00 each from rockauto.com
I bought 10 of the WIX 51356 filters. They're a good design.
As an aside, my Passat uses 51355. How handy is that? |
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| hondacuraworld |
| Wix/NAPA are excellent filters. The only thing better in the aftermarket IMO is Hastings, but I can't find Hastings filters around here anymore :( |
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| Tuck & Jack |
| I use the Wix version, works just fine. Action Autoparts sells them here in Seattle and my '01 Altima uses the same filter. |
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| ctobio |
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Originally posted by hondacuraworld
Wix/NAPA are excellent filters. The only thing better in the aftermarket IMO is Hastings, but I can't find Hastings filters around here anymore :(
Wow, I used to sell Hastings 15-20 years ago when I worked in auto parts. I haven't seen that brand in years- I heard they're still around, but I have no idea where to get them anymore. The old store I used to work at has sold Fram for the last 15 years. Pity. |
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| Sportymonk |
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Originally posted by ctobio
Wow, I used to sell Hastings 15-20 years ago when I worked in auto parts. I haven't seen that brand in years- I heard they're still around, but I have no idea where to get them anymore. The old store I used to work at has sold Fram for the last 15 years. Pity.
Is this what you are looking for?
Hastings Filters
http://www.hastingsfilter.com/ |
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| Sunday Rider |
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Originally posted by Sportymonk
Is this what you are looking for?
Hastings Filters
http://www.hastingsfilter.com/
Great link Sporty. They even have places that sell them in Canada.
I cut and pasted the part numbers.
Lube LF523
Air AF1160
Air Cabin AF1204
PCV HV182 |
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| hondacuraworld |
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Originally posted by ctobio
Wow, I used to sell Hastings 15-20 years ago when I worked in auto parts. I haven't seen that brand in years- I heard they're still around, but I have no idea where to get them anymore. The old store I used to work at has sold Fram for the last 15 years. Pity.
Yep, so did I back in the late 80s/early 90s......
Must have been that cool counter display that they had with the cut up filters :)
You guys then probably had Casite too, their cheap line. Casite was a pretty good filter too, and MUCH better than a lot of the cheapies offered today.
Most auto parts stores don't carry the good stuff anymore......like Filko and Niehoff ignition. Heck, remember Kem? I used to sell that stuff back at good ole Forest City Auto parts in the late 80s. That was back in the days when people would do water pumps and even engine swaps right in the store parking lot. Did a LOT of work on cars back then, drank a lot of beer, and had a lot of fun :) |
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| ctobio |
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Originally posted by hondacuraworld
Yep, so did I back in the late 80s/early 90s......
Must have been that cool counter display that they had with the cut up filters :)
You guys then probably had Casite too, their cheap line. Casite was a pretty good filter too, and MUCH better than a lot of the cheapies offered today.
Yup, I remember the Casite filters- they were pretty good- much better than today's Frams. I remember selling those for $2.50 each- while the Hastings were $5.00
I always loved the Hastings mascot guy. He was cool. :)
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Most auto parts stores don't carry the good stuff anymore......like Filko and Niehoff ignition. Heck, remember Kem? I used to sell that stuff back at good ole Forest City Auto parts in the late 80s.
Heh. I worked at Arch Auto Parts- they started out as a small mom-and-pop outfit with an attached machine shop. The machine shop guy and the auto parts guy had a business disagreement and split up the business, and the Auto Parts side got a new partner. After he bought out the original partner, he ended up expanding the store to something like a dozen stores all over NYC. My dad and I both worked there- he delivered to the mechanics and I was a counterman- this was in my high school/early college days.
We sold Kem, A1/Cardone, Walker, Moog, Wagner, EIS, Federal-Mogul. That stuff was quality. Nowadays they still carry that largely, but they also carry a lot of made-in-China crap. They give you an option- you can buy the economy stuff, or the good stuff. To this day, I still go for the good stuff.
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That was back in the days when people would do water pumps and even engine swaps right in the store parking lot. Did a LOT of work on cars back then, drank a lot of beer, and had a lot of fun :)
Oh yeah- my dad and I changed a clutch in the store parking lot one day. That was one of the more notable jobs- though we would yell at people in the lot who did work who didn't work there.
Those were the good old days when you would look up a part for a guy from a huge rack of parts catalogs- they didn't computerize until 1990- and you would work out the price from the price list in the back of the book and take a percentage off the list price (which varied depending on whether it was a mechanic customer or a DIYer). |
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| hondacuraworld |
I don't think I ever worked in aftermarket with a computer.....I left Hutchins Automotive (now absorbed into Carquest locally) back in 1995, and we used catalog racks exclusively.
Parts stores don't even use Buyers Guides anymore. Raybestos used to make one heck of a Buyers Guide for brake parts......I remember there was a guy named Gordy that used to rebuild homemade deuce coupes and other '50s hotrods, and he'd come in to see me first thing in the morning, drop off a bunch of parts, and just before lunch he'd come back and I'd have them all figured out, what they fit, and where I could get em :)
Anyone could push a set of MD289 Cavalier brake pads over the counter, I always wanted the challenges that nobody else wanted to deal with. Except when it was a Dodge Colt Vista, or differential bearings for a 1 ton Dodge truck. Talk about mission impossible for the parts guy to get those right on the first try.
Products of a bygone era......dashpots, carb kits, AIR tubes, choke stove repair kits, GM split backing plates, CV shaft split boots for Renault Alliances (that back then were everywhere).
Ah, the good old days :) |
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| andyschneider |
So talk to me about Hastings oil filters.... 3 local auto part chains up here carry them, and with 4 Hondas I go thru a ton of filters in a year. Are they significantly better than the OEM ones, even if I change the oil at 4k mile intervals? Also I have 2 V6s with a vertical mount and 2 I4s with a horizontal mount - any anti-drain valve issues?
thanks - andy |
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| ctobio |
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Originally posted by hondacuraworld
Anyone could push a set of MD289 Cavalier brake pads over the counter, I always wanted the challenges that nobody else wanted to deal with. Except when it was a Dodge Colt Vista, or differential bearings for a 1 ton Dodge truck. Talk about mission impossible for the parts guy to get those right on the first try.
My favorite challenge was getting a late 70's-early'80s GM car and playing "guess the engine".
Sometimes the engine code on the VIN was correct, but when you worked in the ghetto like I did, anything was possible.
And you knew an an olds Delta 88 with a 350 Olds diesel was unlikely to still have that engine, or a Cadillac with the 4-6-8 was more likely to have all the FI parts ripped out and replaced by a 4bbl carb.
And a 80-82 V6 Grand Prix could have one of two 3.8l engines- the 229 Chevy or the 231 Buick. How to tell them apart? Where's the distributor? Front or rear?
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Products of a bygone era......dashpots, carb kits, AIR tubes, choke stove repair kits, GM split backing plates, CV shaft split boots for Renault Alliances (that back then were everywhere).
I was the resident Alliance expert at the store. I knew a lot about that car, since my dad had the poor judgement to buy one. The outer CV joints SUCKED. There was no earthly way to disassemble them and then reassemble them, and the CV split boots never lasted. It was just easier to replace the half-shaft entirely. Which I got good at, since the axle rebuild industry back then was in its infancy.
Sometimes someone would come back with a Renault thermostat and ask me where it was, since it wasn't in a traditional water neck (it was clamped inline in the upper rad. hose).
The Alliance was a terrible, terrible car. |
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| N_Jay |
What about the British cars.
Every time I needed a part for my GT-6, I had to take the old one in to match up.
There were no real "GT-6 parts", just parts off assorted other British cars they tossed in, and changed every week or two. |
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| Sportymonk |
Talk about strange cars, my wife's old Chevy Corsica didn't have a radiator cap, just the coolant overflow cap on the bag.
Current 2000 Malibu has no transmission stick to check the fluid!?? Also A/C will not stay on recirculate (she has allergies) now the stealer says (after the third fix replacing the A/C control panel in the dash) that GM says it is designed to not stay on recirculate. Its normal. |
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| ctobio |
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Originally posted by andyschneider
So talk to me about Hastings oil filters.... 3 local auto part chains up here carry them, and with 4 Hondas I go thru a ton of filters in a year. Are they significantly better than the OEM ones, even if I change the oil at 4k mile intervals? Also I have 2 V6s with a vertical mount and 2 I4s with a horizontal mount - any anti-drain valve issues?
The Hastings filters, at least the last time I used them 15 years ago, were of excellent quality. I'm told they are of excellent quality to this day.
Would I go out of my way to get them, or spend a lot of extra money on them? Probably not. But I would feel good using them, if that's what you're getting at. |
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| hondacuraworld |
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Originally posted by ctobio
And a 80-82 V6 Grand Prix could have one of two 3.8l engines- the 229 Chevy or the 231 Buick. How to tell them apart? Where's the distributor? Front or rear?
OMG!!! Now THAT's something I TOTALLY forgot about! :jester:
Early 1980s Buicks were the worst for those.....
Sure, we all had our own tricks.....mine was that you could use the air breather clip that used to come with most elements and use it in place of a broken clutch cable clip. Used to happen on stick-shift Chevettes.....that, and broken harmonic balancer dowel pins.
Then, of course, there were the JA1, JA2, JA8 brake codes on the Celebrity/6000/Ciera/Century.......
That's when parts was fun, because you had to be inventive to get your customer out of a jam :) . Reclocking alternators, spending time at the pipe rack making up test pipes, cutting drums and rotors (THAT I will NEVER miss!). |
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| ctobio |
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Originally posted by hondacuraworld
OMG!!! Now THAT's something I TOTALLY forgot about! :jester:
Early 1980s Buicks were the worst for those.....
Grand Prix and Monte Carlos were not immune. Pretty common was the fullsize Buicks , Oldsmobiles, and Pontiacs- they could have a 301 Pontiac, 305 Chevy, 307 Olds, or a 350 Olds, 350 Chevy, or 350 Buick!
Having the customer bring their registration was key, as the VIN would have the engine code. Sometimes you'd get the customer come in with a registration that said their Olds Delta 88 was a 350 diesel, and they'd say, no it's gas... and you'd tell them that you have no idea what they have then. Is it outside? I need to SEE the engine.
You can imagine that I've got a special place in my heart for GM products.
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Sure, we all had our own tricks.....mine was that you could use the air breather clip that used to come with most elements and use it in place of a broken clutch cable clip. Used to happen on stick-shift Chevettes.....that, and broken harmonic balancer dowel pins.
Pity there are no more Chevettes for that trick to work on. On second thought...
Actually, the Chevette gets a bad rap. It was actually the best product GM had out at the time, believe it or not.
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Then, of course, there were the JA1, JA2, JA8 brake codes on the Celebrity/6000/Ciera/Century.......
I always told people upfront:
"I will give you this set of pads. There's a better than 30 percent chance you'll get the right part. If the part is wrong, bring me the old part and I'll then guarantee to give you the right part. Just don't be pissed at me. Be pissed at GM for putting in whatever they felt like installing that week at the factory."
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That's when parts was fun, because you had to be inventive to get your customer out of a jam :) . Reclocking alternators, spending time at the pipe rack making up test pipes, cutting drums and rotors (THAT I will NEVER miss!).
I actually loved turning rotors. Of course, I would taste metal in my throat for hours after operating the lathe, even if I wore a dust mask. In retrospect, I should have had a respirator and not a 25 cent dust mask. And I'd blow metal dust out my nose all night.
I loved reclocking the GM 60 amp alternators and swapping pulleys on alternators and Saginaw pumps. One of the things we did a lot of was look at the back of the Moog spring catalog and find taller springs to raise the ground clearancce for the fullsize Chevies used as gypsy cabs in the ghetto.
One of the other things I used to do was custom build new A/C lines- reusing old fittings where applicable, or digging through the Evercool boxes for just the right elbow. I also got handy with a strut compressor- I used to do struts and strut cartridges, only once having a spring come off the compressor tool and nearly kill me. :eek: And then there was the time I tipped a car battery on myself from off a shelf.... and my pants started dissolving!
Nowadays. the parts guys don't know a damn thing unless you go to a mom and pop, which is a dying breed. When I go to Autozone or Pep Boys, I just sigh at the incompetence. Like the time I went into one of the big chains and asked for an oil change for an aircooled Beetle. I could have looked like I dropped from outer space. |
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| hondacuraworld |
A lot of the incompetence comes with the pay scale, or lack thereof. In my 18 years in the biz, I've only ever known one person that retired.
Knew this guy Ronny that started working in Ford parts in 1951. Where is he now? He's working Ford parts, walking the shelves putting away stock. Poor guy can barely walk, only has one lung left.....
Everyone just wants things as cheaply as possible, and won't pay the extra few bucks to get info from somebody knowledgable at a mom and pop.
All the good parts guys I ever knew, the really good ones, went into some other line of work. Shame too. But, then again, not many people work on their own stuff anymore. Good parts guys are going the way of the drugstore tube tester. |
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