| aerostar45 |
I should have posted this long time ago if I wasn't that busy for the past month. Anyway, I found out that the DIY for the fog light was not swift. I spent a lot of time on the bumper removal. If I know what I know now I might finish it quicker. So, I think it will be helpful for me to share my experience with those who want to do the fog light for themselves. I made some photo along with the progress. Sometimes a picture is better than a thousand of words.
To make more sense, I will post it according to the installation instructions.
Step 4. Remove the front bumper
The front bumper has two parts. One is the grill and the other is the lower bumper(the one you are going to work on). They are clipped together by five short clips located inside of the bumper. The position is shown as the picture indicated. It is inside the bumper but it could be reach and be removed by a short flat screwdriver. |
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| aerostar45 |
Even after you removed all the clips and screws, it is not easy to remove the lower bumper. The reason is there are numerous (acturally they are only 10, 5 on each side) hiden clip between the headlight and the bumper holder. See the pictures. You need to yank it out one side at a time. Sometimes I thought I damaged the bumper, it turned out to be just fine.
To see these clip by yourself, you need to open the plastic panel between the bottom of the headlight and the bumper. |
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| aerostar45 |
| There is a wire on the way when you want to remove the air filter case. The easy way to deal with it is to remove the wire first before you tried to remove the case. The wire is clipped to the wall of front wheel housing. The clip can be seen close to the damper area. See picture. |
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| aerostar45 |
I realy doubt that we need the templates to cut the hole. When I followed the instruction I found that there are factory molded templates on the inside surface of the bumper. Make it more curious, the factory molded templates are larger (wider) than the templates on the instruction paper. I folllowed the instruction anyway cause I thought it is always good to cut the smaller hole first. you can always to cut it bigger if you want. Turned out to be that the factory one is good and the paper copy is to small.
Here is the picture. |
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| aerostar45 |
| I can't find 40mm hole saw in Homedepot nor in Lowes. I bought a 1 1/2 " hole saw, which is about 38 mm. It worked just fine. |
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| aerostar45 |
It was virtually impossible for me to remove this d*mn thing. I can't even put my finger close to those clips. There are way to many cable around. I guess this is the time that you might need to use a professional tool, like a clip remover. However, I found it is totally uncessary to remove this if you are not installing the Auto Day/Night mirror at the same time (which I did).
The total time I spent in this project is 13 hours, including the time for the Auto Day/Night mirror. It was painfully long and since I started at 12:00 PM, I really had no time to take more picture. If you have any question on certain step, let me know. I will try to explain as much as I can.
The fog light is wonderful. Diffinitely a must. |
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| copilot |
| I will let the dealer do it. If it took you 13 hours it would probably take me two days. There are some things I will do and others I pay to have done. Congratulations on being able and willing to do it yourself. How was putting it back together? That's where I sometimes really run into trouble. I can ALWAYS get things apart, but....Oh well that's another story. |
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| aerostar45 |
Will, the time includes Auto Day/Nights mirror also. For Fog Lights alone is about 9 to 10 hours. I heard somebody did it in 6 hours with one skilled friend's help. I didn't regret it though cause the dealer quote me $600 for the lights and labor. Consider the money saved the only thing I regret is that I should have started it earlier. It is not a bad project for a sunny Saturday's fun.
By the way, putting it back is a swift. Much quicker than tear them apart. Be very careful not scraching the bumper. Since I live in an apartment, I bring the bumper up and down and I did scrach several place. Not big though. |
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| bgeraldo |
| Personally I'm waiting for a recessed version of the fog lights that I can get without the lower trim. I have to give to you however. You are very brave to go at this yourself. I commend you!! |
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| aerostar45 |
Thanks bgeraldo! :)
Amount all the accessory I wanted, I don't think Fog Light is that intimidating. That's why I went for it. I read from this forum that somebody did the Tow Package by themselves. Now that is brave.
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| N_Jay |
Hmm, Thought I did, I know it is on Honda-SUV.com
It is not near as detailed as this set of instructions.
A few notes.
The grill is suposed to come off with the bumper. So say the instructions for the fog lights, and the instructions for removing the bumper in the service manual.
The instructions mention that transfering the template is unneccessary if your bumper is marked. I am guessing all but the very earliest bumpers are marked. Mine was at VIN 11436.
Since my bumber was marked, I found it easy enough to cut the bumper with a utility knife from the back side with no problems.
I modified the wiiring harness to allow opperation any time the park lights are on. (Just my prefference)
I also noticed that the dash side does not need to be removed, and does not provide any needed access.
I did note that the instructions completly ignore removing the switch panel. It cones out easily bu prying at the botton edge.
I noticed after the fact that some pictures either in the instructions or in the service manual show the swithc mounted upside down. The light should be at the top, and the picture should show the beams heading down.
http://www.honda-pilot.org/forums/s...ht=modification |
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| Sage |
| Took Honda service 7 hours to do mine. I think it was the first time they did it though. Great pics Aerostar - I'm sure they'll be very helpful to all the brave souls who'd tackle that project. :cool: |
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| N_Jay |
Not for just the fogs?
Hmm, either they are real careful, or real slow.
Hope they at least aimed them! :2: |
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| Scoobs |
| I like the look with the bumper removed. Sort of a tough guy look ! |
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| jland |
[QUOTE]Originally posted by aerostar45
[B]It was virtually impossible for me to remove this d*mn thing. I can't even put my finger close to those clips. There are way to many cable around. I guess this is the time that you might need to use a professional tool, like a clip remover. However, I found it is totally uncessary to remove this if you are not installing the Auto Day/Night mirror at the same time (which I did).
aerostar45
I am going to install the Day/Nite mirror and would like to know if you could give me more information on how you removed the left cover or did you manage without removing the cover.
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| aerostar45 |
No, I didn't remove the side cover. As I said, the clips are beyond reachable because of the cable arround.
If I remember correctly, on the mirror installation manual there is a step shows using a steel wire to guide the day/night wire through the wire and pipe jungle to reach to the connectors on the bottom of the dashboard. I didn't have a steel wire at the time, I let the gravity done the job. I will take time and luck to achive that, so good luck!
And becareful when you align the wire on the roof. if possible, I would recommend you to remove one more roof handle on the leftside of the second row seat. I bend the roofliner at the dirverside handle a little bit. It is not serious but I regret I did that. |
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| jland |
Thanks aerostar45
Your reply is very helpfull. I now have a good idea on how I am going to do this install. Removing the second row roof handle sounds like a good idea. I am going to do the install this thursday. Will let you know how it turns out.
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| a2Pilot |
So many of you have said the fog light installation is not as hard as it looks. I've finally decided to go for it! My wife bought me the fog lights for my birthday, and I'm going to install them myself.
I'll let you know how it goes, and post pics when I'm done!
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| a2Pilot |
quote:
Originally posted by wwong
With the OEM instructions, aerostar45, and my installation pictures, you should have no problem. Here's a link to my fog light installation. http://www.hondapilot.org/forums/sh...=&threadid=4311
Thank you! I wouldn't attempt this without all the great documentation!:D |
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| aerostar45 |
quote:
Originally posted by wwong
With the OEM instructions, aerostar45, and my installation pictures, you should have no problem. Here's a link to my fog light installation. http://www.hondapilot.org/forums/sh...=&threadid=4311
Awesome post. Wwong, Good job! |
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| a2Pilot |
I've decided to divide this installation into two days. I just finished installing the switch wiring harness inside the Pilot. It only took about 30 minutes, thanks to all the great information posted here!:D My "biggest" problem was my size! It's not easy getting under that dash when you're 6'5"!!
All went well, and I'm ready to move on to day two next weekend. It's the big bumper cover removal day!!!:eek:
Thanks to all who posted info and advice on this installation.
I'm glad my wireless signal reaches my driveway!!!!!!! |
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| a2Pilot |
| Here's a shot of the fuse box. I don't recall if anyone had posted this yet. Tough working under here with big hands!!:D |
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| HDTVEE |
First of all I cannot thank enough WWONG and AEROSTAR45 for the invaluable info on their installs. Their hints, pics, and notes helped tremendously. I have installed the coolers and fog lights and will finish tomorrow with the inside switch harness.
Quick question. MY foglight harness that connected to the taped plug on the left harness was full of a grease of some sort. Was that normal? Also do I have ot remove the inside kick panel or can I go around it.
Thanks again!!!! |
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| wwong |
| The grease is normal. I also found working underneath the dash difficult. I could never find a comfortable position. As I recall, you do have to remove the side panel. |
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| HDTVEE |
| The installation of the at/ps coolers, fog lights and 2004 horn upgrade is complete. Thanks to everyone for their invaluable help with pix and hints I could not have done it without you guys! |
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| wwong |
| Congratulations on your install. Good to hear we were of help. |
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| devin1955 |
I've read this thread regarding fog light installation, and though I was a bit surprised that the Honda installation guide is 18 pages (yieks) I'm not really intiminated by that. I have a towing package on order that I'm going to install myself, and I'm looking at the fog lights too. I figure if I'm going to do it, I might as well do it at the same time because both require the removal of the bumper.
But my question is, are they worth it? $276 (www.handa-accessories.com) is a lot of money for fog lamps. I can sorta justify it because it's all factory parts and it includes all the wiring, switch, fuses, relays, etc, etc, but I still wonder.
Would some of you who have these installed on your Pilots give me some feeback on how well the work and how satisfied you are with them?
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| wwong |
| The OEM fog lights like all OEM accessories are pretty expensive. But you are doing the right thing by buying online and installing yourself. That is the only way to save money. But since you live in Southern California, I suggest you buy out of state so you don't have to pay sales tax. Of all the accessories I have, the fog lights are among the top five. With or without lower trim, they look great on the Pilot and definitely are of help during the foggy morning commute. If you're in Los Angeles, come by and check out my Pilot. |
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| devin1955 |
...regarding the fog lights. I have the EX model Pilot, so the bumper cover matches the body color, it's not black. I can't tell by looking at the installation instructions (unless I just missed it) how much they show, and assuming they do, how it would be color matched. Do I have to have these painted to match???
Wwong, thanks for your kind offer, I will probably take you up on it! I live in Mira Loma, which according to MapQuest is only 30 miles from you. Probably not this weekend, but maybe next if you're available.
Lastly, do you have an out of state source for Honda accessories in mind with pricing as good as Handa? |
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| SteveLuman |
quote:
Originally posted by devin1955
But my question is, are they worth it? $276 (www.handa-accessories.com) is a lot of money for fog lamps. I can sorta justify it because it's all factory parts and it includes all the wiring, switch, fuses, relays, etc, etc, but I still wonder.
Would some of you who have these installed on your Pilots give me some feeback on how well the work and how satisfied you are with them?
Thanks!
Looks like you are about 50 miles from Temecula, CA? Norm Reeves HONDA Temecula has had a few auctions lately on eBay that ended for $ 242.00 & $ 239.00.
If you are close enough to the dealership one day, ask them if they will sell direct to you for the same price. You will still have to pay CA tax...but no shipping. It should cost no more than $ 261.00 this way. |
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| devin1955 |
> I am not sure what you mean by color matched.
I didn't word my question well. I'm referring to the left and right "fog light covers". That's the terminology used in the installation instructions. Since on the EX the bumper cover colors all match the body color, rather than being all black, is there a color matching issue with the light covers? There seems to be no provision for ordering the covers in the same color as your bumper.
It looks to me like what they refer to as "covers" are actually trim parts that attach to the bumper to cover and neatly finish off the hole you cut for the lights.
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| kemosabe |
quote:
Originally posted by devin1955
> I am not sure what you mean by color matched.
I didn't word my question well. I'm referring to the left and right "fog light covers". That's the terminology used in the installation instructions. Since on the EX the bumper cover colors all match the body color, rather than being all black, is there a color matching issue with the light covers? There seems to be no provision for ordering the covers in the same color as your bumper.
It looks to me like what they refer to as "covers" are actually trim parts that attach to the bumper to cover and neatly finish off the hole you cut for the lights.
Or am I missing something...
devin1955: The only fog light cover (without lower trim) which wasn't "black" that I've seen is the one on this Redrock Pearl that was debuted at the Auto Shows prior to the Pilot hitting the dealerships for the first time last year. Most, if not all, that I've seen on the road and here on honda-pilot.org have left the fog light cover "black".
But, as you can see from this photo, I reckon it can be painted to match the bumper color: |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by devin1955
> I am not sure what you mean by color matched.
I didn't word my question well. I'm referring to the left and right "fog light covers". That's the terminology used in the installation instructions. Since on the EX the bumper cover colors all match the body color, rather than being all black, is there a color matching issue with the light covers? There seems to be no provision for ordering the covers in the same color as your bumper.
It looks to me like what they refer to as "covers" are actually trim parts that attach to the bumper to cover and neatly finish off the hole you cut for the lights.
Or am I missing something...
The covers/trim pieces are the same color as the center party of the bumper. The picture from the Auto Show is a prototype Pilot with several minor differences from the production Pilots.
As for the cost of the Fog Light kit. It is on par with most "factory" options. You pay a bit more but it is usually worth it.
The lights themselves are very well made. I would say similar to $100+ lights, not $50 Auto Store lights.
You don't have to figure out where you want them or how you are going to mount them like aftermarket lights. So no extra trips to the hardware store looking for an "L" Bracket, "just a bit longer than the one on the shelf".
No modes needed to the lights or brackets, so you save that second trip pack to the hardware store to get a new cutting wheel for the Dremmel tool to "adjust" the "L" bracket that looked "Just Right" at the second store on the first trip.
No fixing the errors made in the first attempt to install the lights, saving the trip to the dealer to price a new part, then the trip to the auto parts store to see if you can hide the error with a bit of trim (before your wife notices it)! Etc. Etc. Etc.
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| Wolfman_matt |
Just wanted to thank WWONG and AEROSTAR45 for their instructions and tips on the fog light install. Completed it today in less than 4 hours and it was actually MUCH easier than I anticipated. If you have any type of basic mechanical aptitude combined with some common sense you can get this one done in a day.
They look great and I saved a lot of head scratching with the tips and pictures in hand from honda-pilot.org.
Some things I noticed:
1. When you get all clips/bolts removed from bumper cover have something soft under cover when it "drops" to avoid scratching underneath.
2. You really do have to yank hard to get the final clips loose in in the above step and some clips may break.
3. You can easily cut through bumper cover with a razor blade instead of a drill/hack saw.
4. You don't need to buy a special 9 mm drill bit. Pick a standard size bit a little smaller than the spacer and and you can work it in.
5. You'll need a contortionist to get the wiring done under the dash.
6. THE JOB CAN NOT BE COMPELETED IN A TIMELY AND RELAXED MANNER WITHOUT THOROUGHLY STUDYING ALL REALATED POSTS ON HONDA-PILOT.ORG!!!
Thanks Again
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| wwong |
| Glad to hear my install was of help. |
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| pilot critter |
| i would like to get the fog lights, but i want to be able to use them without the headlights (parking lights). will the honda dealer do this for me? i know there is a legality question in some states, but i don't think that's the case here. thanks. critter |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by pilot critter
i would like to get the fog lights, but i want to be able to use them without the headlights (parking lights). will the honda dealer do this for me? i know there is a legality question in some states, but i don't think that's the case here. thanks. critter
It depends on the dealer, but even if he said "Yes" I would not let him do it.
The mod is in an early thread on fog lights. |
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| Sandcrab |
OK, please tell me which one to order? There is 2 of each.
32380 RELAY ASSY., POWER (4P) (RC-2201) (MITSUBA)
23350 RELAY ASSY., POWER (4P)
1294704 WIRE HARNESS, FOG SWITCH
1294705 WIRE HARNESS, FOG SWITCH
Web Site:
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com...R+TRIM+COVER%29 |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by Sandcrab
OK, please tell me which one to order? There is 2 of each.
32380 RELAY ASSY., POWER (4P) (RC-2201) (MITSUBA)
23350 RELAY ASSY., POWER (4P)
1294704 WIRE HARNESS, FOG SWITCH
1294705 WIRE HARNESS, FOG SWITCH
Web Site:
http://www.hondaautomotiveparts.com...R+TRIM+COVER%29
I don't know, I just used the kit that came with the fog lights.:4: |
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| pilot critter |
thanks for the info n_jay and wwong. i really don't like those options i guess. i have a feeling that even if i do the mod myself, it will still void the warranty.
i'll have to think about whether i want to put the money into lights that are that limited. critter |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by pilot critter
thanks for the info n_jay and wwong. i really don't like those options i guess. i have a feeling that even if i do the mod myself, it will still void the warranty.
i'll have to think about whether i want to put the money into lights that are that limited. critter
What don't you like about the mod? :confused:
I would not worry about the warranty. What part of the fog lights do you think has a chance of failing?:eek:
They will still cover the transmission!:4: :4: |
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| ge356 |
Hey folks thought I'd post my comments on installing the OEM fogs on a 2004 EX. I just installed cross bars, fogs, and day/night mirror.
1) Read this thread several times - it will help. I agree with Wolfman_matt and N_Jay posts.
2) Cut the holes (using templates stamped on inside of bumpers) with a razor knife - it works fine
3) After you remove clips and bolts tug pretty hard on the bumper and it'll pop right off. Have something underneath so you don't scratch it – when it pops off it falls to the ground. I started on left (driver) side at wheel and underneath headlight. (did not break any clips)
4) Working under dash was tough!!! This was hardest part IMO… couldn’t get both hands/arms under the dash to unplug the 20pin harness so I could install the switch harness. Spent a good hour just trying to do this (pg 13, item 54)
5) Use standard drill bits for drilling holes for the collars – use size a little smaller and you can squeeze them in (adjust hole using a round file)
6) Several items that you get in the kit have changed that were pretty frustrating:
a) The “unit bracket” is different and will not install in the area that pg 5 says – I had to install in the engine compartment
b) The harness itself has changed (or is too short) so you have to install the “relay with rubber” and “fuse case on fog light harness” inside the engine compartment. This part of harness will not go to the bulkhead area as indicated in the instructions. The new bracket holds both of theses items – I installed on ground screw in front of the battery (only place it would fit without me modifying and drilling holes)
c) Instructions refer to flange nuts but they are already on the brackets (welded)
d) Only came with 1 wire tie with holder (probably because of new relay bracket)
Any questions please feel free to PM me… |
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| john802 |
ge356 - You probably installed Fog Light Kit P/N: 08V31-S9V-111A without lower trim or P/N: 08V31-S9V-111 w/ lower trim. There is another fog light kit for the Honda Pilot P/N: 08v31-S9V-110 w/out lower trim that has a better looking fog light cover IMO. It matches better w/ the front bumper gray plastic trim.
-john |
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| wwong |
| ge356-Congrats on the install! |
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| ge356 |
quote:
Originally posted by john802
ge356 - You probably installed Fog Light Kit P/N: 08V31-S9V-111A without lower trim or P/N: 08V31-S9V-111 w/ lower trim. There is another fog light kit for the Honda Pilot P/N: 08v31-S9V-110 w/out lower trim that has a better looking fog light cover IMO. It matches better w/ the front bumper gray plastic trim.
-john
I did install the newer 110 (w/o lower trim). (didn't realize there were different versions of fog light kits - ???) You are correct, the covers do match the bumper gray perfectly.
My big issue was the change in bracket and harness. The instructions don't show these changes or give directions for the changes. But got them in and the look sharp!!!
Thanks wwong.
Now if I can just figure how TX wants them aimed... doing a search now for TX laws.
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| john802 |
ge356 - Can you post a picture of the location of the unit bracket in the engine bay? Also, can you take a picture of the fog light cover trim?
Thanks,
-john |
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| ge356 |
| Got pics but don't know how to post... |
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| wwong |
| john802-what's happening with your fog lights? When we met for lunch, you mentioned a couple of problems with the delivery. Did you ever get it straightened out? |
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| ge356 |
quote:
Originally posted by john802
ge356 - Can you post a picture of the location of the unit bracket in the engine bay? Also, can you take a picture of the fog light cover trim?
Thanks,
-john
Figured it out... here's pic of bracket and harness at battery. You can see the harness is not long enopugh to make it out to left bulkhead. Notice bracket has the fuse thingy and relay with rubber attached. |
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| ge356 |
| Here's pic of fogs matching trim |
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| ge356 |
| Close-up showing the color match |
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| john802 |
quote:
Originally posted by wwong
john802-what's happening with your fog lights? When we met for lunch, you mentioned a couple of problems with the delivery. Did you ever get it straightened out?
I talked to Tim and JR of Hondacuraworld about the fog light harness and the trim, they are sending me a third fog light kit w/ PN: 08V31-S9V-110. I will not be getting it until the 1st week of August since they have to order it from the Honda warehouse and ship it to me. Luckily, I am on vacation and have plenty of time to do the installation. |
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| ge356 |
quote:
Originally posted by john802
ge356 - Can you post a picture of the location of the unit bracket in the engine bay? Also, can you take a picture of the fog light cover trim?
Thanks,
-john
john802 - FYI... I've got an email in to Tim at hondacuraworld about the bracket, harness, and instructions. Maybe my harness is made wrong... but the bracket doesn't come close to looking like the one in the directions (as you can see by pics).
FYI... I tilted bracket down to allow for the tube to run across the front without obstruction. Any other questions just shoot me a message or reply. |
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| ge356 |
quote:
Originally posted by john802
I talked to Tim and JR of Hondacuraworld about the fog light harness and the trim, they are sending me a third fog light kit w/ PN: 08V31-S9V-110. I will not be getting it until the 1st week of August since they have to order it from the Honda warehouse and ship it to me. Luckily, I am on vacation and have plenty of time to do the installation.
What was the problem with your harness and trim? Were they sending you the -110 fogs or one of the older ones (reference previous post). |
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| john802 |
I contacted 4 Honda service center to find out where to install the new unit bracket on the engine bay, and all 4 said that Honda have no instruction where to install it to.
I called Honda customer service about this matter and she transferred me to the eng. dept. The tech told me that they are still formulating the best location to install the bracket and will send out the instruction shortly.:confused:
I know that the tech was just giving me some BS. I know that before you design a particular part, you already know where to install it to!!! |
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| john802 |
quote:
Originally posted by ge356
What was the problem with your harness and trim? Were they sending you the -110 fogs or one of the older ones (reference previous post).
They send me P/N: 08V31-S9V-111 initially w/c is for Pilot w/ lower trim. Tim was kind enough to send me a replacement kit for w/out lower trim by express mail. The 2nd kit P/N: 08V31-S9V-111A has a different trim, its plain black and ugly. So now, I'm waiting for the 3rd kit to come in so I can finish the installation of my fog light. |
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| wwong |
| So......for the inconvenience, is Tim offering anything for these screwups? Discount? |
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| john802 |
ge356 - I just got a e-mail from Honda customer service stating that Honda redesign the fog light harness and bracket to make it easier to service the fuse and the relay. But my main question about where to install the bracket was not mentioned.
-john |
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| john802 |
quote:
Originally posted by wwong
So......for the inconvenience, is Tim offering anything for these screwups? Discount?
I'm not asking for any discount, I'm just praying that they send me the correct one before I go back to work.
-john |
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| ge356 |
quote:
Originally posted by john802
I contacted 4 Honda service center to find out where to install the new unit bracket on the engine bay, and all 4 said that Honda have no instruction where to install it to.
I called Honda customer service about this matter and she transferred me to the eng. dept. The tech told me that they are still formulating the best location to install the bracket and will send out the instruction shortly.:confused:
I know that the tech was just giving me some BS. I know that before you design a particular part, you already know where to install it to!!!
Hhhmmmmm... Maybe I was supposed to leave my car unfinished for a week or two while they figure how to connect and install new fog lights kit...
I agree with fuse access idea but as short as the harness is and the crowded area around the air cleaner and battery there are not a lot of places to put that bracket and relay. |
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| ge356 |
quote:
Originally posted by john802
ge356 - I just got a e-mail from Honda customer service stating that Honda redesign the fog light harness and bracket to make it easier to service the fuse and the relay. But my main question about where to install the bracket was not mentioned.
-john
john802 - Can you pm/post me the email address for Honda Cust Service... I also installed the day/night mirror and it vibrates with every bump and the radio... yikes! I only found phone number for cust service but no email address. |
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| jay |
quote:
Originally posted by ge356
john802 - Can you pm/post me the email address for Honda Cust Service... I also installed the day/night mirror and it vibrates with every bump and the radio... yikes! I only found phone number for cust service but no email address.
My experience with the mirror was similar, and it was dealer-installed.:( |
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| hondacuraworld |
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Originally posted by wwong
So......for the inconvenience, is Tim offering anything for these screwups? Discount?
The first time was our mistake, the second was not. That is the current part number offered for the Pilot and was superceded from the previous number. The one we sent John the second time would have worked in place, however it was not what he wanted.
I happened to get really lucky by calling about 20 dealerships trying to get the old number, and I found just one. Anyone else that orders the fog lights will get the new number. |
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| john802 |
| I agree with Tim that the second kit would have work except the trim looks ugly!!!It comes with the new redesign bracket and fog light harness. |
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| ge356 |
My fogs were the newer version, 08V31-S9V-111 (not the 110). The fog trim covers match front bumper trim, the harness and bracket do not match the directions for install.
BUT, I did install the fogs and I like the install. My notes were to heads-up anyone that is going to install in the future about changes. (see my pics on bracket install which shows the harness)
Spoke with Tim today and he stated he will be posting on this thread when he gets more info from Honda. Sounds like he wants to help and wants to be informed so he can assist his customers. |
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| ge356 |
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Originally posted by john802
I agree with Tim that the second kit would have work except the trim looks ugly!!!It comes with the new redesign bracket and fog light harness.
John, 802 - those covers look nothing like mine... perhaps manufacturer made a packing mistake. |
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| john802 |
ge356 - Can you verify for me the actual Part # of your fog light kit? The P/N: 08V31-S9V-111 is for Pilot w/ lower trim, new harness and new bracket while P/N: 08V31-S9V-111A is for Pilot w/out lower trim, new harness and new bracket.
BTW, you maybe right that I just got a wrong sets of trim on my kit.:confused: |
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| ge356 |
| The invoice shows 110, the box showed 111 --- no "A". See attached pic of box. Hope this helps. |
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| ge356 |
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Originally posted by john802
ge356 - Can you verify for me the actual Part # of your fog light kit? The P/N: 08V31-S9V-111 is for Pilot w/ lower trim, new harness and new bracket while P/N: 08V31-S9V-111A is for Pilot w/out lower trim, new harness and new bracket.
BTW, you maybe right that I just got a wrong sets of trim on my kit.:confused:
Invoiced said 110, box says 111 -- no "A". No I do not have the lower trim. Here's pic of box sticker. |
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| jay |
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Originally posted by ge356
The invoice shows 110, the box showed 111 --- no "A". See attached pic of box. Hope this helps.
I grew up in a house with paneling in the living room that resembles that picture.:D |
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| john802 |
| Here is a picture of the two fog light kits that Tim send me. The P/N:xxx-111 contains the fog light trim for Pilot w/lower trim. The P/N:xxx-111A contains the fog light trim mentioned above(black plastic). |
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| chazexl |
| im currently looking to get the foglights and came across this thread.does the anyone have pics of the new ones installed?and do the new ones say raybrig on them?are the gray ones on this thread the first ones?do they make the first ones anymore? |
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| chazexl |
| any pics of new lights |
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| john802 |
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Originally posted by chazexl
any pics of new lights
What year and model trim is your Pilot? |
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| john802 |
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Originally posted by chazexl
2003 ex
You can still order the 2003 oem foglights. There are two kinds of oem foglights for that year. It depend on if you have the lower trim or not. The 2005 oem foglights have the switch control on the stalk lever and it's not compatible w/ the '03-'04 Pilot. |
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