| Blinking "D", dealer replacing transmission, 2004 Pilot
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| klharmon |
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We bought a 2004 Pilot, and have aproximately 65,000 miles on it. The "D" light started blinking, so we scheduled a service with the dealer. They initially said it was a 4th gear sensor and it need replacing. We bought the extended warranty, so it was covered.
Apparently they got underneath to make repair, and started having problems all over the place. I honestly dont know what they did, but it was described to me a the transmission was falling apart as they were working. I dont know if that means they dropped the pan and there were gear parts in the fluid or what. Bottom line, they are now replacing our transmission with a rebuilt transmission, which they define as a rebuilt tranny case with all new gears, shafts, bearings, etc.
Any advice out there? Im a little too pissed off to think straight. But the idea of a rebuilt transmission is sending off warning lights in my head. (yeah, now my drive light is blinking) |
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| fireflock |
That sucks. Are you pissed that you have a tranny problem at all, or pissed that they are providing a rebuilt tranny instead of a new one.
For a car with 65k miles, a rebuilt transmission seems fair to me. I would want them to provide a warranty on it.
Good luck in a bad situation. |
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| jestmaty |
Not getting a warm, fuzzy feeling here..................................
Keep us posted please, sorry to hear about your troubles. |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by jestmaty
Not getting a warm, fuzzy feeling here..................................
Keep us posted please, sorry to hear about your troubles.
I'm getting a very warm fuzzy feeling.
You had a problem, and they took care of it.
Many people find factory rebuilt trannies as good or better then new, and almost always much better then a dealer serviced one.
Sounds like you got good service. |
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| jestmaty |
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Originally posted by N_Jay
I'm getting a very warm fuzzy feeling.
You had a problem, and they took care of it.
Many people find factory rebuilt trannies as good or better then new, and almost always much better then a dealer serviced one.
Sounds like you got good service.
No, not the service end of it......
The fact that a 3yr old transmission with 65k broke. I know the number of tranny problems seems low, I just am concerned about towing the boat a lot this coming summer as the miles creep higher and higher. |
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| AWGD8 |
I had the same problem with my CRV.
The lease was 4 years, then at 3.5 years the problem start (D light was blinking).
I removed the negative battery cable to reset the code and the problem was temporarily fixed. This problem went on and off for a few months. I research online and found out that it`s going to be a huge transmission problem.
I went to the dealer (while I already reset the code). I traded it in for a new Pilot.
Knowing that fact that the CRV warranty is over, I saved my ass from huge service bills.
I`ll never lease a car passed it`s warranty period. |
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| klharmon |
UNBELIEVABLE
The dealer called my wife the day after I posted this problem. Turns out the mechanic who diagnosed the need for a new transmssion based it upon the D light continuing to blink, even after they replaced the fourth gear sensor. He tried many other fixed and the D light kept blinking. This was described to my wife as the "transmission is falling apart, you will need a new one"
We get a call the next day from the lead mechanic. He told my wife, with his head in his hands, that our transmission was fine. The mechanic who diagnosed the need for a new tranny never reset the blinking D indicator after replacing the 4th gear sensor. Once they reset the indicator, everything was fine.
:rolleyes: :D |
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| CHADC880 |
"Well I am sorry Mr. Service Manager or Lead Tech, you didn't give my wife or I the warm fuzzy feeling, so I want an extended warranty past what we have on Honda Care. Yes you can through in a bunch of add ons but the fact that maybe the tranny will drop again at maybe 100,000 miles and the replacement charge of $1500.00 if Honda will give you the discount to $3500.00 full dealer price doesn't make me happy. "
This is what I would be saying. |
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| CinciXpel |
Well, our 2003 Pilot is having the same problem with the blinking "D", and my wife says that it was making a bad grinding noise as she drove up our street. She pulled off to the side of the road and stopped immediately, and had it towed to the dealer on a flatbed. The dealer pulled the computer codes, and is saying the transmission needs to be replaced. I don't know if they tried looking inside the transmission housing, but I think they're probably correct given the grinding noise. The dealer called Honda N.A. and they are offering to split the cost of replacement 50/50 for a remanufactured tranny from Honda. Cost to me will be $1035 for parts and labor, plus tax. Sounds pretty fair to me, given that our 100,000 mile extended warranty is lapsed.
We bought our Pilot in Sept 2002, and it has about 120,000 miles on it. It has been absolutely great, and even with the cost of this problem, I have no regrets about buying it. However, it is disconcerting that it failed so early. I'm glad to see in other posts that Honda has improved the transmissions starting with 2006 models, so maybe when I buy my next Pilot in about 5 years it won't have this issue!
One question... does anyone think this transmission problem could have damaged other mechanical or electrical systems in the vehicle, such as the engine or VTM-4?
Thanks! |
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| rocky |
I've heard from Accord owners whose trannies have gone out that they have had the same $1k deal from their dealers for new trannies.
Auto trannies rely on clutches that do wear out regardless of the manufacturer.
My wallet would hurt to have to pay a $1000 bucks to replace the tranny after 120k, but at a certain point its fair wear and tear |
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| rogermoises |
Hi everyone,
Less than an hour ago, my wife reported seeing the "blinking D" while driving home.
I asked her, at the time, if she heard or felt anything out of the ordinary, and she said no.
I just drove it moments ago and the D's currently not blinking. I also didn't detect anything that seemed like a (transmission) problem.
Is this "blinking D" intermittent or is there some sort of pattern/timing to its recurrence? What is involved in replacing this 4th gear sensor, and is there an associated Honda TSB.
I'm "only" at 67k miles, and I dread the prospect of a new/rebuilt transmission :mad:
Thanks in advance for your always helpful feedback and pointers!
Roger |
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| N_Jay |
The "Blinking D" is just the Transmission error indicator.
Much like the "Check Engine" light it can mean MANY things.
Get the cods pulled by the dealer. |
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| 01lude |
| Yeah I would be pissed to and you have every right to be. I had a buddy who has a 2001 civic and the trans started slipping with about 65,000 miles on it. It started slipping because Honda designed a clutch pack carier that was to thin for the trans so when it heated up, it started slipping from 1st to 2nd gear. Honda knows of their F*** up's but rather take on a huge recall, they want to deal case by case basis. First, find ANYTHING that you can find about the trans in your car, any TSB's whatever. Go to NHTSA.GOV and look for any info you can about that trans. there is bound to be something there, they find all flaws in all cars. Make a HUGE deal about it, call your dealer, state your case and then call Honda of America. My frined did this and was called back the same day and was told that Honda was going to put a BRAND NEW trans in his ride free of charge, not even for labor. Cars that have slipping trans or any trans problems of any sort at 65,000 is a defective trans in my opinion. |
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| rogermoises |
Thanks, N_Jay - I'll look into this...
An independent (Honda) shop can pull
these codes as well, right?
Thanks,
Roger
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Originally posted by N_Jay
The "Blinking D" is just the Transmission error indicator.
Much like the "Check Engine" light it can mean MANY things.
Get the cods pulled by the dealer.
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