| ADVBob |
| Just got an 04 EXL. LOVE IT!! It only came with one key though. Do I have to take it to the dealer for extra's or can a local key shop make extra's? |
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| A6Pilot |
| Key has to be matched to the car. The dealer will do it, of course, or you can try here. |
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| PJD |
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Originally posted by A6Pilot
Key has to be matched to the car. The dealer will do it, of course, or you can try here.
Anyone know of cheaper alternatives? :eek:
I went to the streetkeys website and the prices are really out of sight.
$193 if they provide the key, cut, activate it and deliver it to me.
$134 if they provide the key, cut and activate it and I pick it up.
Ouch!
I'd like to know if anyone knows of less expensive alternatives.
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| deparson |
How much does the dealer want?
A new 05 key (which has the remote door opener built in) cut and programmed to the car was $128 at the Honda dealer. A good chunk of that was labor for programming the car's computer to see the new key's RFID chip.
If your remote opener is not built into the key I would think it would be a lot less.
-D |
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| Medic721 |
call around to local locksmiths. they can clone the 'chip' in your current key and cut it for you. Prices vary greatly.
-Mike. |
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| ADVBob |
| Just a followup to my original key post. Took the 04 to the dealer yesterday for the 37500 checkup, also told them I needed an extra key (since it only came with 1 when I bought the car), only charged me $35/key, cut and programmed!! At that price I told the dealer to go ahead and make 2. I was fully expecting to pay over $100/key, pleasantly surprised. |
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| bspitz1886 |
| Saw a sign at Home Depot the other night that they will cut and program keys for Honda's (and others) for $59. FYI - I was quoted $79 at my dealer for a new key (and two weeks). |
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| TheEaglePilot |
Wow, this is a revelation. We haven't needed a replacement key yet, but I was told by my dealer it would cost something like $135. I assumed they had some proprietary technology that gave them a monopoly on replacement keys.
Is there nothing that dealers don't soak people on? :rolleyes:
Chris |
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| hondacuraworld |
| I do them for $25 each, cut, shipped, and programmed. But I need one of your originals here to do it. |
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| TheEaglePilot |
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Originally posted by hondacuraworld
I do them for $25 each, cut, shipped, and programmed. But I need one of your originals here to do it.
You give dealers a good name. Wish there were more like you.
Chris |
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| DonP |
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Originally posted by hondacuraworld
I do them for $25 each, cut, shipped, and programmed. But I need one of your originals here to do it.
Is the valet key good enough? |
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| hondacuraworld |
| Sure, that'll work fine :) |
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| bspitz1886 |
| Just goes to show how much the other dealers are making on their keys... |
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| variable |
quote:
Originally posted by deparson
A new 05 key (which has the remote door opener built in) cut and programmed to the car was $128 at the Honda dealer. A good chunk of that was labor for programming the car's computer to see the new key's RFID chip.
If your remote opener is not built into the key I would think it would be a lot less.
-D
Any idea if the 05 keys are compatible with earlier (i.e. 04) models?
I have too many fobs... |
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| Nathan @ NBO |
| Why are the price ranges all over the place? I know you might be able to pick up a blank key on ebay, then have it cut and programmed for cheap (you might save a few bucks?). That's ridiculous though, how streetkeys charges 60 dollars to ship a key! |
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| larryziegler |
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan @ NBO
Why are the price ranges all over the place? I know you might be able to pick up a blank key on ebay, then have it cut and programmed for cheap (you might save a few bucks?). That's ridiculous though, how streetkeys charges 60 dollars to ship a key!
Go to www.keylessride.com for your key/remote combo. Volkswagen keys are cut and programmed in much the same manner and the cost at their dealerships is also all over the board. Its not labor generated, its profit earned in performing a service in which limited players exist. Shipping for the 05 key/remote as shown below costs $6-$20 depending on how fast you need the key to arrive. By ordering this key and having HondaAcuraWorld cut and program the key, your cost is only $75 total. I think thats very reasonable myself.
LX's and the older Pilots may use the older style remote that is separate from the key. Programming the remote is a piece of cake and takes all of 30 seconds to do.
From www.keylessride.com for an 05 Pilot:
Remote and Programming
3 month warranty
List Price: $43.15
Dealership Price: $83.15*
You Save: $40.00 (48% off!)
AVAILABILITY
Usually ships within 1 business day
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION
Warranty: 90 Days
Batteries: Included
Satisfaction Guarantee: 30 day No Hassle Return Policy
PROGRAMMING
Price INCLUDES programming instructions for training the vehicle to recognize the remote.
Each KeylessRide purchase includes unlimited Toll Free access to our expert Technical Support staff.
*Dealership prices may vary. Contact your local dealership for actual prices. Includes estimated labor charges for programming services.
This price does not include key cutting nor transponder chip programming (if necessary) for key portion of the unit (if purchased). |
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| larryziegler |
| Forgot to attach a picture of the key/remote from keylessride.com |
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| TheEaglePilot |
quote:
Originally posted by larryziegler
By ordering this key and having HondaAcuraWorld cut and program the key, your cost is only $75 total. I think thats very reasonable myself.
Did I misunderstand Tim? I thought he said he sells the programmed keys for $25.
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| larryziegler |
quote:
Originally posted by TheEaglePilot
Did I misunderstand Tim? I thought he said he sells the programmed keys for $25.
Chris
I took him to say that he cuts and programs your furnished key blank for $25, as it seems too cheap otherwise. I re-read it, and it can be assumed either way. Maybe Tim will clarify. |
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| jimmyhauser |
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Originally posted by variable
Any idea if the 05 keys are compatible with earlier (i.e. 04) models?
I have too many fobs...
The keyblank and remote transmitter are. The immobilizer chip is not.
If you buy the 05 key, you can program the remote yourself (very easy) cut the chip out of your 03 or 04 key, remove the chip from the 05 keyfob, and insert the 03/04 chip.
Then put it together, and take it to a dealer with your vin number to be cut. My dealer cut the key for free.
To cut the chip out of the 03 key, I used a dremel cut-off disc and cut around the perimeter of the key head. Then separate it, and the chip is inside a white sleeve right in the middle of the head.
To get the chip out of the 05 keyfob, remove the remote, and then use a razor to cut out the area that holds the chip. You can toss it. Trim down the white sleeve from your 03 chip (be careful, the chip itself is glass I think) just a little, put the remote back in the fob, then wedge the 03 chip/sleeve in. That's it. |
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| hondacuraworld |
quote:
Originally posted by larryziegler
I took him to say that he cuts and programs your furnished key blank for $25, as it seems too cheap otherwise. I re-read it, and it can be assumed either way. Maybe Tim will clarify.
Nope, this price includes the blank :) |
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| deparson |
I think part of the confusion on this thread is all the different elements that can go into a new 'key'.
For a Pilot key with built in fob you have the following costs:
1 Key blank with fob
2 Cutting key
3 Programming the Pilot's computer to the RFID chip in the fob (to start the car)
4 Programming the Pilot to the fob (to unlock the doors)
If you have an RFID chip from a working key/fob you can remove it and put it in the new fob saving on programming costs otherwise the dealer needs to hook up a tool to the Pilot's computer to do the programming.
Number 4 can also be DIYed.
Thus, anything from mail order sources can not include #3 or #4 where a dealer quote might. My dealer wanted $55 for #3 and #4 was free.
-D
quote:
Originally posted by hondacuraworld
Nope, this price includes the blank :)
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| larryziegler |
quote:
Originally posted by deparson
I think part of the confusion on this thread is all the different elements that can go into a new 'key'.
For a Pilot key with built in fob you have the following costs:
1 Key blank with fob
2 Cutting key
3 Programming the Pilot's computer to the RFID chip in the fob (to start the car)
4 Programming the Pilot to the fob (to unlock the doors)
If you have an RFID chip from a working key/fob you can remove it and put it in the new fob saving on programming costs otherwise the dealer needs to hook up a tool to the Pilot's computer to do the programming.
Number 4 can also be DIYed.
Thus, anything from mail order sources can not include #3 or #4 where a dealer quote might. My dealer wanted $55 for #3 and #4 was free.
-D
Actually, #3 can be accomplished as long as you send a key for programming duplication, which Tim says can be accomplished with a Valet key. |
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| deparson |
Well, so much for the dealer I went to :)
How does that work? I understood that each RFID chip had its own code and that code had to be programmed to the computer in the car. I think they said the Pilot could store a max of three codes.
Can the RIFD's code be 'cloned'? Is that a supported Honda thing or something special?
Thanks. D
quote:
Originally posted by larryziegler
Actually, #3 can be accomplished as long as you send a key for programming duplication, which Tim says can be accomplished with a Valet key.
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| iivtecracerii |
depends on the immobilizer system. look on the keys that came with your Pilot. if the metal shank near the plastic fob has an "F" engraved on it, then it is an older immobilizer system with a fixed code, meaning you can just "clone" the RFID code from a working key.
if they key has a "V" engraved on it, then its the newer rolling code system and the car MUST be present to have a new key programmed into the immobilizer memory. the new key would also have to have a "V" on it.
i know our 03 pilot has a fixed code immobilizer. i'm not sure if they changed it in later years. |
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| TheEaglePilot |
quote:
[i]i know our 03 pilot has a fixed code immobilizer. i'm not sure if they changed it in later years. [/B]
My 2007 key has a V on it. I learn such interesting things here.
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| deparson |
Our 04 Accord EXV6 and 05 Pilot EX have 'V'. Cool stuff.
quote:
Originally posted by deparson
Well, so much for the dealer I went to :)
How does that work? I understood that each RFID chip had its own code and that code had to be programmed to the computer in the car. I think they said the Pilot could store a max of three codes.
Can the RIFD's code be 'cloned'? Is that a supported Honda thing or something special?
Thanks. D
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| jimmyhauser |
quote:
Originally posted by iivtecracerii
depends on the immobilizer system. look on the keys that came with your Pilot. if the metal shank near the plastic fob has an "F" engraved on it, then it is an older immobilizer system with a fixed code, meaning you can just "clone" the RFID code from a working key.
if they key has a "V" engraved on it, then its the newer rolling code system and the car MUST be present to have a new key programmed into the immobilizer memory. the new key would also have to have a "V" on it.
i know our 03 pilot has a fixed code immobilizer. i'm not sure if they changed it in later years.
that could get confusing to someone, if I were to trade in my pilot that is supposed to have an F key, but due to my hacking, now has a V key....
I have an 04 with the older chip as well. |
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| davepilot05 |
I was traveling in DC a few months ago (I won't bash on it b/c I grew up there) and my rental car was broken into and a set of keys was stolen. I delayed getting a new one b/c I have one still and it's expensive.
Anyway, called around dealerships in Kentucky to get prices. To get the key and program it I got three prices so far. Actual key ranged from 39 to 71. Programing ranged from 42 to 89. So total prices quoted were 79, 136, and 160. Highway robbery!
Tim, you do them for $25, all inclusive? A previous post said you only need the vallet, which is a different cut then the original. Can one send you the key 'code/#' to have one cut? I suppose if you need an original, I'm SOL since I need at least one to drive around town. |
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| hondacuraworld |
The valet isn't a different cut than the original, it's a different thickness....but $25 is the whole shot, and I can use your valet to do it.
Just FYI, this key does not have a remote etc....... |
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| VKwalker |
Hey Tim at Hondacrura World.
This may be a silly question.
Can you program a blank for an 07 pilot (that includes the built in remote opener) to start and remotely open an 04 pilot ex?
I'd like to not have two devices to carry around.
Just curious. |
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| hondacuraworld |
| No factory blank can be programmed without the actual vehicle. Ours are Honda labelled Silca blanks, which are of the non-remote type. |
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| mpgermany |
quote:
Originally posted by hondacuraworld
I do them for $25 each, cut, shipped, and programmed. But I need one of your originals here to do it.
I had to use the valet key for the remote starter. If I send you an original key, can you make another valet key.....or are the keys the non-valet type? |
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| sagaliba |
quote:
Originally posted by hondacuraworld
I do them for $25 each, cut, shipped, and programmed. But I need one of your originals here to do it.
Does that refer to the key with remote (I have '07)? |
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| hondacuraworld |
| No, to program the factory blanks, you need the vehicle and all keys at a dealership...... |
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| sagaliba |
quote:
Originally posted by deparson
How much does the dealer want?
A new 05 key (which has the remote door opener built in) cut and programmed to the car was $128 at the Honda dealer. A good chunk of that was labor for programming the car's computer to see the new key's RFID chip.
If your remote opener is not built into the key I would think it would be a lot less.
-D
For my '07 key (with remote), my dealer told me it would cost $170 plus tax ($75 for the blank plus labor)! And I have to bring in my vehicle. |
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| sagaliba |
quote:
Originally posted by hondacuraworld
No, to program the factory blanks, you need the vehicle and all keys at a dealership......
Will the Silca replacement key work for my '07 "V" key (since it has the rolling code RFID chip)?
If it does, then can I get a key from you and then get a '06 remote for the door? Someone has siad that remote can be programmed DIY, but I don't know if '06 remote can work for my '07 Pilot. |
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| sagaliba |
quote:
Originally posted by PJD
Anyone know of cheaper alternatives? :eek:
I went to the streetkeys website and the prices are really out of sight.
$193 if they provide the key, cut, activate it and deliver it to me.
$134 if they provide the key, cut and activate it and I pick it up.
Ouch!
I'd like to know if anyone knows of less expensive alternatives.
Phil
I went to the streekeys website, but they do not have picture of "Chipped Factory Remote Key" (which is what I want) for my '07. Does anyone has ordered from them and know if this is the correct key? |
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| ericsgr |
| Don't feel so bad guys. My dad was telling me that he saw a news story the other night that the newer Toyotas - you get two keys. They have made the security so tight on them that if you lose your keys they have to replace the whole computer in the car...........so if you lose them it costs ya upwards of $2000 to get new keys :eek: |
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| sagaliba |
I ordered the key (2007 Honda OEM) on-line, with activation service. The first affiliate they gave me told me they only do Silca aftermarket keys and don't do Honda OEM keys. Called them back, and got the second affiliate. This one told me that they could do 2006 Honda Pilot but weren't sure they could do 2007. I finally got the 3rd affiliate, and everything works now.
I was charged $89 for activation service, but I found out they only pay the locksmith $45.
This is the locksmith who finally did my key: http://www.anarizlock.com/. Whoever interested may check with them see how much they charge for key activation if you deal with them directly. |
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| dontnomuch007 |
| Does anyone know if the keys for 06 are under warranty? One of my keys with the built-in remote will not unlock/lock the doors. I tried replacing the battery but still nothing. I must have dropped it or something and killed it. |
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| rocky |
| If it doesn't look abused then I bet they will replace under warranty |
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| larryziegler |
quote:
Originally posted by rocky
If it doesn't look abused then I bet they will replace under warranty
I second that! |
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| dontnomuch007 |
| When I took it to the dealer last week to get my oil changed, I asked if the key can be replaced under warranty and he said keys are not under warranty... |
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| sagaliba |
quote:
Originally posted by dontnomuch007
When I took it to the dealer last week to get my oil changed, I asked if the key can be replaced under warranty and he said keys are not under warranty...
If your remote is not damaged, try the procedure below to reprogram it. It worked for me. (Note, if you do the procedure, then you have to do it for all of your remotes.)
http://www.hondapilot.org/forums/sh...2102#post122102 |
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| guamaniac |
quote:
Originally posted by hondacuraworld
No factory blank can be programmed without the actual vehicle. Ours are Honda labelled Silca blanks, which are of the non-remote type.
Does your $25 replacement key have the transponder inside? If it does, would I just need to take all my keys to a dealer and have the Pilot re-programmed to accept all the keys (new one included)?
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| jestmaty |
Well kids..... after 4 years of ownership, I've finally lost the 2nd of the 3 keys I got when I picked my Pilot from the dealership in June '04.
I'm down to the valet with the separate remote to lock and unlock the doors :mad:
I'm just at a loss as to how I misplaced the 2nd set on Tuesday pm. I've retraced all my steps since beginning to look for them yesterday. I figured a night of rest and a fresh start today (Thursday) would yield some results.
Nope...
We had tropical storm Eduard come through Tuesday, which was little more than an all-day rain shower that we badly needed! I took my wife and my 7 yr old to a campground that is about 30 miles away from my house to check it out. We are going there for 3 days next week, and I'd never been there, so we drove out there to give it a look. Took the PIlot, with my regular set of keys.
Got home about 5:30 and by 7pm, I was asleep on the sofa, moving to the bed much later, out for the night.
Went to look for them Wednesday afternoon, nowhere to be found. Now, this set of keys is huge with a large silver carabiner (sp?) holding the Pilot key, house key, remote fob, several smaller keys to unlock my camper door, tongue lock thingy to keep my camper from bouncing off the hitch ball, same thing for my boat, and another key to unlock my master hitch lock to keep my receiver bar from being stolen.
All in all about 7 keys on a large carabiner have gone walkabout :rolleyes:
We did get a really large sectional sofa that has a foldout bed at one end and recliners at the other end. I thought it made sense since I fell asleep in the recliner that they could be in there! I've done everything except turn it over. I feel confident that I've combed it pretty well.
Plus, the keys are never in my pocket, I hang them on a belt loop 'cause they're so bulky.
So... what next? I've read this thread and I would love to send a key to Tim to have him cut and program a couple more to get me back to where I was when new. But... I only have the valet now.
On my '04, the remote to unlock/lock the doors is separate and I found 'em for either $35 or $65, the latter being new, unscratched, with a 180 day warranty. The $35 gets a slightly used fob and 90 day warranty.
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| jestmaty |
Found 'em !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:2: :2:
They were on top of our China... I must've put them on there when I was changing the a/c filter:confused: I remember changing both of my a/c filters yesterday ( among about 50 other mini-projects it seems ) and probably left them up there when I freed my hands up to replace the filter. The china is directly underneath the return, but is about 7 ft tall and has a lip that hid the keys..
Getting senile at 43 I guess? |
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| humanoid |
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Originally posted by jestmaty
~snipped
Getting senile at 43 I guess?
Don't say that! I'm only 3 years behind you... is that what I have to look forward to? :mad: |
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| jestmaty |
quote:
Originally posted by humanoid
Don't say that! I'm only 3 years behind you... is that what I have to look forward to? :mad:
Huh?
Where am I and what day is it? Who are you???>>>>.....
I gotta go poop now, I think :p |
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