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Disappointed in initial quality of my '07 EX-L - Click HERE for Original Thread
rossdm
I took my week-old EX-L back to the dealership to have some accessories installed. I'm disappointed by the growing list of problems I need them to look into:

1. The rear A/C ducts don't work. All the air comes out the bottom vent on the floor - nothing out of the top vents on the rear of the console.

2. The Disc+/Disc- buttons don't work on the 6-disk CD changer. There's no way to navigate between the 6 discs in the CD changer.

3. The headliner is pulling off of the trim piece in three different places on the driver's side.

4. I can't get the Homelink buttons to accept my garage door opener. I had no problems with my '03.

The '07 is a great vehicle, but it appears mine was sloppily built. I just hope the dealer can get these fixed.

Dave
Jake1221
WIth regard to Number 1 - do a search here, somebody already figured this out. The system is smarter than you think.

With regard to Number 2 - to navigate between CDs in the changer, press the corresponding number button. For example, if you want CD 1, press the #1 channel lock button. The Disc+/Disc- buttons don't do this.

With regard to Number 4 - Garage door openers are different now than in '03. They have rolling numbers, that are continually changing. There is a different procedure to program the Home Link, where you have to press a "learn" button on the actual garage door opener.

Just curious, did you read your manual?
ericsgr
Just a note on the vents ross............the rear vents....the air does NOT come out of the top vents unless you select the top only in the front. If you have it selected to anything else, the air comes out of the bottom vent in the back. At least that is the way it is on my '05..........not sure about the '07.
Sorry to hear you are having so much trouble...........hope the dealer takes care of ya.
larrys
quote:
Originally posted by rossdm
I took my week-old EX-L back to the dealership to have some accessories installed. I'm disappointed by the growing list of problems I need them to look into:

1. The rear A/C ducts don't work. All the air comes out the bottom vent on the floor - nothing out of the top vents on the rear of the console.

2. The Disc+/Disc- buttons don't work on the 6-disk CD changer. There's no way to navigate between the 6 discs in the CD changer.

3. The headliner is pulling off of the trim piece in three different places on the driver's side.

4. I can't get the Homelink buttons to accept my garage door opener. I had no problems with my '03.

The '07 is a great vehicle, but it appears mine was sloppily built. I just hope the dealer can get these fixed.

Dave



For problem #1, I believe for you to get air out of that top rear vent, you need to select air to come out of the dash vents in the front. Maybe try that to see if it works. Or, then again, maybe yours is broken :(.

Good luck!
Larry.
rossdm
quote:
Originally posted by Jake1221
WIth regard to Number 1 - do a search here, somebody already figured this out. The system is smarter than you think.

With regard to Number 2 - to navigate between CDs in the changer, press the corresponding number button. For example, if you want CD 1, press the #1 channel lock button. The Disc+/Disc- buttons don't do this.

With regard to Number 4 - Garage door openers are different now than in '03. They have rolling numbers, that are continually changing. There is a different procedure to program the Home Link, where you have to press a "learn" button on the actual garage door opener.

Just curious, did you read your manual?



1. The dealer service rep cound not get air to come out of the top vents under any settings or circumstances. He agreed there is a problem.

2. The Disc+ button is supposed to move the CD player to the next disc and the Disc- is supposed to select the previous disk. It says this in the owners manual. On mine, the Disc+ button will change the disc that is playing to a randomly selected disc. The Disc- button does nothing. The dealer service rep looked at this also and agreed there is a problem.

4. I have had the same garage door opener for nine years. It worked fine with the Homelink in my '03 right away. I spent two hours USING THE OWNER'S MANUAL, following the instructions to the letter, and could not get it to work.

I have spent A LOT of time reading the manual. I AM NOT AN IDIOT.
Jake1221
Easy, there - just trying to help out.

I thought the same thing about the CD+/CD- buttons, that they would move up and down through the discs. This didn't work, but then I noticed you can just press the numbered buttons. This is preferred, because you can go from disc 5 to disc 1 by just pressing one button, the "1" button.

If you have an older garage door, then the learn button is not relevant.
sagaliba
quote:
Originally posted by rossdm
I took my week-old EX-L back to the dealership to have some accessories installed. I'm disappointed by the growing list of problems I need them to look into:

1. The rear A/C ducts don't work. All the air comes out the bottom vent on the floor - nothing out of the top vents on the rear of the console.

2. The Disc+/Disc- buttons don't work on the 6-disk CD changer. There's no way to navigate between the 6 discs in the CD changer.

3. The headliner is pulling off of the trim piece in three different places on the driver's side.

4. I can't get the Homelink buttons to accept my garage door opener. I had no problems with my '03.

The '07 is a great vehicle, but it appears mine was sloppily built. I just hope the dealer can get these fixed.

Dave



I have problem with my '07 EX-L headliner as well (see New Member thread). I have not tried rear AC and Disc changer yet. Maybe I ought to try it soon (I figured I have 3 yrs :) ).

My Homelink does work, so I guess I am at least one up on you.;) Agreed with the disappoint, I am especially disappointed with my dealer's attitude, I feel they are not even as good as the American car dealers!
GreenMachine
With the garage door opener, I tried the method you are supposed to follow, hitting the learn button and holding the Homelink button IIRC, but it did not work. Then I programmed the Homelink using the garage door remote opener. From there I used the learn button on the garage door opener unit itself with the newly programmed Homelink button in the Pilot. That worked.
whizmo
FWIIW, on my 06, the Disc-/Disc+ buttons don't work as discussed in the manual either. Right now I have three discs loaded in slots 1, 2, and 3. Whenever I press the +/- buttons, it ask me to LOAD either disc 5 or disc 6.. It waits a while and if I don't feed it another disc, it gives up and returns to whatever it was playing on 1, 2, or 3. If I do feed it with a disc when it asks, then it goes into slot 5 or 6, and I can go between them with the buttons, but that's not terribly useful. It seems to be hung up on 5 and 6 - I wonder if I cycled power to the radio whether it would reset and start doing something else.

Didn't try filling the changer with all six discs - maybe it would work properly then.

Pressing one of the numbered buttons goes directly to the disc, no problem. This is the way I've always done it, so I never noticed the weird behaviour with the Disc-/Disc+ buttons. It's all inconsequential to me, but if someone figures this out, I'd like to hear about it.

Can I say again how much I loathe this stupid, crappy-sounding Honda stereo system?

- Mark
BlueRiverPilot
Very sorry to hear you are having so much trouble. Hopefully, the dealer will be able to take care of the situation so that you are happy. So far I am very happy with mine, and the couple small issues I ran into, the dealer took care of right away. Good luck!!!
sagaliba
quote:
Originally posted by sagaliba

Agreed with the disappoint, I am especially disappointed with my dealer's attitude, I feel they are not even as good as the American car dealers!


I think I need to explain the situation a little bit.

In addition to my headliner problem, I noticed that whenever I have the heater on, the engine cooling fan would automatically come on, and never wait for the engine to warm up even in the cold winter morning. When I asked them the question, the service "consultant" first told me that cooling fan is on because the AC (or compressor) is on. Fine, but then they cannot tell me how to make sure compressor is not running when I don't need it (e.g., in cold brisk days). They got my Pilot, fooled around for awhile, and finally told me it is "normal" for the cooling fan to be "on" regardless, and the only way for it to not be on is to turn off the heat completely. (I finally found out how to turn off AC by going on to another forum.) Worse, when I got my Pilot back, the hood was not even shut properly, I only found out in the middle of the road and saw my engine hood went up and down, and had to find a place to stop and shut the engine hood properly!
BlueRiverPilot
Sounds like you might need to find another dealer to service you vehicle.
t00mies
unfortunately i have to agree with you on the quality of the honda pilot.

i have a 2007 ex-l that i bought in january 2007. i used the a/c three times before it stopped working -- turns out they needed to replace a defective discharge tube. i hope that it was just a fluke, but it certainly doesnt leave me with a good feeling about buying the car.

on a good note, i still do like my pilot a lot.
:)



i also just programmed the homelink on my aunt's accord and my cousin's mdx, and also on my pilot. please tell us how far you got with programming the homelink, and maybe we can figure out where it messed up.


were you able to pair the homelink button with the garage remote -- i..e push and hold the button on the homelink and the garage remote until the homelink starts to blink fast?

if you got that far, the next step is to have the garage opener learn about the homelink. you should push the learn button on the garage opener, then push the button on the homelink (for 2-3 seconds, or until the homelink stops blinking). then you need to release the button on the homelink and press it again. it has to receive the homelink signal TWICE so that it can learn the rolling code sequence, and it has to do this before the garage opener learn sequence times out.



good luck!


tommy
VettePilot
I don't know where your headliner is giving you trouble, but I had two headliners in my '06 that would not hold around the moon roof.

The reason: there are several sections of Velcro "hook and loop" fasteners to hold it that have the "hook" part misaligned with the "loop" part. The result is less than half the surface of the Velcro is holding.
rossdm
I get the car back tomorrow. I'll try using the numbered buttons to go directly to the desired disk.

As for Homelink, I can't get the light to blink fast when I use my remote to try to train it. If I could get past this, I could then try to get my opener to learn about the Homelink from the car. But I can't even get the Homelink in the car to recognize the remote.
t00mies
rossdm ---


one more thing that occured to me; i had some problems getting my aunt's GL450 from recognizing the remote... i needed to change the battery in the remote control for it to work. the remote still worked for opening the garage door, but i guess it wasnt strong enough for the homelink to learn off of it.

try changing the battery in the remote! :)


t
John M
Might try changing the frequency on your remote door opener. I banged my head against the wall for a day trying to get the homelink to capture. Finally changed the remote frequency and whala....programmed like a charm.
tim.s
quote:
Originally posted by t00mies
...try changing the battery in the remote! :)...
Good point. We do need to hold the button on the hand held remote for a long time (5-10 seconds) for programming compared to the time needed to activate the door. The remote may work fine for the garage door, but die out before the Homelink learns the code.

Most of the time, people have problems with the last steps - synching the Homelink to the garage door opener.

At least for items 2 and 4, if the Dealer agrees they are a problem, the correction is safe and easy - pull and replace the component. (But don't be surprised if the new radio works the same way.)
rossdm
I already tried a brand new battery in the remote. I didn't help.

I might try changing the frequency if I can figure out how to do it - there's probably dip switches in the remote...

Dave
t00mies
hmmmm, thats not good. :( i'm running out of ideas; maybe the homelink *is* broken.


BUT, just like any other electronic device, when nothing works, its time for a reboot, or a reset in this case. i think all the buttons on the homelink are erased when you push and hold the 1st and 3rd buttons for long time (until the light blinks, i think).

that's my last thought on what to do about the homelink.

but that should have been my first thought -- i think the instructions say to do this at the very beginning for programming the homelink the first time.

have you done a full reset before?

as for the dip switches, i think those are only for the non-rolling code remote control units.


t
sagaliba
quote:
Originally posted by VettePilot
I don't know where your headliner is giving you trouble, but I had two headliners in my '06 that would not hold around the moon roof.

The reason: there are several sections of Velcro "hook and loop" fasteners to hold it that have the "hook" part misaligned with the "loop" part. The result is less than half the surface of the Velcro is holding.


My headliner is coming out of molding on the driver side (i.e., you can see the edge of the fabric outside the molding). There is really nothing to hold the fabric inside the molding (the molding itself is supposed to hold the fabric), and my dealer told me nothing they can do to make it stay inside the molding; the fabric is cut too short.

The manager took me to examine other Pilots, and found out that Honda only leaves about one eighth of inch of the fabric inside the molding. He said if I insist, he can order a new headliner for me, but there is no guarantee that the new headliner will be any better. (Who knows it is my headliner one eighth of inch too short or my roof is one eighth of inch too wide?) Besides, he also warns me that putting in new headliner may create leak problem around my sun roof.:mad:
tim.s
quote:
Originally posted by whizmo
FWIIW, on my 06, the Disc-/Disc+ buttons don't work as discussed in the manual either. Right now I have three discs loaded in slots 1, 2, and 3. Whenever I press the +/- buttons, it ask me to LOAD either disc 5 or disc 6.. It waits a while and if I don't feed it another disc, it gives up and returns to whatever it was playing on 1, 2, or 3. If I do feed it with a disc when it asks, then it goes into slot 5 or 6, and I can go between them with the buttons, but that's not terribly useful. It seems to be hung up on 5 and 6 - I wonder if I cycled power to the radio whether it would reset and start doing something else.

Didn't try filling the changer with all six discs - maybe it would work properly then.

Pressing one of the numbered buttons goes directly to the disc, no problem. This is the way I've always done it, so I never noticed the weird behaviour with the Disc-/Disc+ buttons. It's all inconsequential to me, but if someone figures this out, I'd like to hear about it.

Can I say again how much I loathe this stupid, crappy-sounding Honda stereo system?

- Mark
I think I figured out your problem on the drive in this morning. It's not that your system is stuck on 5 or 6 or the number of discs you have loaded. You will get the same behavior if slots 1 and 2 are empty.

For example, unload disc 1 and unload disc 2 (other discs can be loaded or not - doesn't matter).
Now press "1" or "2" (doesn't matter) and the system will say "load" because the slot is empty. Load a disc and then press the other button (1 or 2).
Again, the system will say load because this slot is also empty.
Load a disc in this slot.
Now alternate between pressing button 1 and 2 - the system will alternate between playing discs 1 and 2 only, depending on which button you press last.

---> This is the same exact behavior you described above and it is normal. Just forget about the Disc- and Disc+ writen above buttons 5 and 6. You aren't pressing "Disc-" you are selecting disc "5".
whizmo
quote:
Originally posted by tim.s
---> This is the same exact behavior you described above and it is normal. Just forget about the Disc- and Disc+ writen above buttons 5 and 6. You aren't pressing "Disc-" you are selecting disc "5".




Eureka. I was focusing on the Disc- and Disc+ legends, I didn't realize that, of course, pressing these buttons was just preselecting disc 5 and disc 6. This all makes sense.

And now that I look at the manual again, I see that the discussion of the Disc- and Disc+ buttons is in the section titled: "Operating the Optional CD Changer (Optional on LX models)". So it's not really applicable to the EX at all.

But.... why in the heck for the EX stereos do they put "Disc-" and "Disc+" on the "5" and "6" buttons? Can you use the optional changer in addition to the built-in changer?

Thanks for pointing this out. You're a genius.

- Mark
JimB823
quote:
Originally posted by whizmo
Can I say again how much I loathe this stupid, crappy-sounding Honda stereo system?


Apparently they didn't change the stereo much from the 03 it seems
Trinity
I have a Chambelain garage door opener that has a rolling code security feature.

My first try at programming Homelink failed. I went back and tried it again. This time, I simply kept pressing the button on my Chamberlain transmitter about once every 4-6 seconds for about 1-2 seconds with each press. Homelink quickly recognized and learned the transmitter.

Now with my garage door opener learning the Homelink, I applied the same technique.

I was able to program everything in just a few minutes.

For those who are following the directions of holding down the transmitter button for several seconds: try pressing more frequently and for less time.
FADE
Sounds like the Pilot controls for the 6 disk changer are a lot like my TL. It took me a while to fig out the # went to the disk too. The home link was a pain to program for me as well. I know it took a while to fig out and I have all ready forgotten what I did. lol So I guess when I get my Pilot next week I am going to have fun again trying to get that to work. I did have a Question about the headliner, is this a very common problem and will the dealer fix it?
plchan
I tried to program the Homelink on my 07 EXL but I failed. I found out it was pretty difficult to program it and I did not try it again.

I have heard so many times about the headliner is pulling off of the trim piece.

Can someone share a / few photos about that?

I am going to check out my EXL to determine if I have the same issue. I just purchased it in 2/17/07 and I had them to replace the whole moon-roof glass and molding area.
rossdm
OK - here's an update...apparently I *AM* an idiot!

The headliner coming loose was really the only problem. The dealer fixed it quickly.

The stereo buttons are working as designed. The "Disc+" and "Disc-" buttons are for control of the optional Music Link. I don't know why these are labelled the way they are, but they aren't supposed to advance the discs in the changer. As has been said, I need to press the numbered buttons to go directly to the disc I want. DUH!

The rear A/C is also working as designed. To get air to come out of the top vents, you need to put the front air on the TOP VENTS ONLY (i.e. no split of the air to top/bottom). I'm not crazy about this design - I would like to have air come out the top vents in back when it is split up front. But that's not how it works. My '03 would do that, but not the '07. No big deal.

The Homelink buttons apparently give EVERYONE problems. I'll take another crack at it tomorrow.

So I've changed my mind. The initial quality of the car is fine. The quality of the operator, however, could stand some improvement. :eek:

Thanks for all the suggestions...

Dave
rocky
:1pat:
tfrain
quote:
Originally posted by rossdm
OK - here's an update...apparently I *AM* an idiot!

The headliner coming loose was really the only problem. The dealer fixed it quickly.

The stereo buttons are working as designed. The "Disc+" and "Disc-" buttons are for control of the optional Music Link. I don't know why these are labelled the way they are, but they aren't supposed to advance the discs in the changer. As has been said, I need to press the numbered buttons to go directly to the disc I want. DUH!

The rear A/C is also working as designed. To get air to come out of the top vents, you need to put the front air on the TOP VENTS ONLY (i.e. no split of the air to top/bottom). I'm not crazy about this design - I would like to have air come out the top vents in back when it is split up front. But that's not how it works. My '03 would do that, but not the '07. No big deal.

The Homelink buttons apparently give EVERYONE problems. I'll take another crack at it tomorrow.

So I've changed my mind. The initial quality of the car is fine. The quality of the operator, however, could stand some improvement. :eek:

Thanks for all the suggestions...

Dave



I wish the air would split between top and bottom in the back as well - I don't know why it wouldn't do this - seems kinda stupid to me.
GreenMachine
Glad to hear you are getting things figured out. Now just enjoy your new truck. :4:

quote:
Originally posted by FADE
Sounds like the Pilot controls for the 6 disk changer are a lot like my TL. It took me a while to fig out the # went to the disk too. The home link was a pain to program for me as well. I know it took a while to fig out and I have all ready forgotten what I did. lol So I guess when I get my Pilot next week I am going to have fun again trying to get that to work. I did have a Question about the headliner, is this a very common problem and will the dealer fix it?


Fade,

Big Trouble in Little China avatar?? Funny movie. :2:
sjlee
quote:
Originally posted by sagaliba
In addition to my headliner problem, I noticed that whenever I have the heater on, the engine cooling fan would automatically come on, and never wait for the engine to warm up even in the cold winter morning. When I asked them the question, the service "consultant" first told me that cooling fan is on because the AC (or compressor) is on. Fine, but then they cannot tell me how to make sure compressor is not running when I don't need it (e.g., in cold brisk days). They got my Pilot, fooled around for awhile, and finally told me it is "normal" for the cooling fan to be "on" regardless, and the only way for it to not be on is to turn off the heat completely. (I finally found out how to turn off AC by going on to another forum.) Worse, when I got my Pilot back, the hood was not even shut properly, I only found out in the middle of the road and saw my engine hood went up and down, and had to find a place to stop and shut the engine hood properly!


If you don't want your compressor or fan on at all, then you need to make sure that the climate control is not in Auto mode. I never have it set to Auto because I want to decide when to turn on the compressor/fan.
NSXBill
quote:
Originally posted by rossdm
OK - here's an update...apparently I *AM* an idiot!

The headliner coming loose was really the only problem. The dealer fixed it quickly.

The stereo buttons are working as designed. The "Disc+" and "Disc-" buttons are for control of the optional Music Link. I don't know why these are labelled the way they are, but they aren't supposed to advance the discs in the changer. As has been said, I need to press the numbered buttons to go directly to the disc I want. DUH!

The rear A/C is also working as designed. To get air to come out of the top vents, you need to put the front air on the TOP VENTS ONLY (i.e. no split of the air to top/bottom). I'm not crazy about this design - I would like to have air come out the top vents in back when it is split up front. But that's not how it works. My '03 would do that, but not the '07. No big deal.

The Homelink buttons apparently give EVERYONE problems. I'll take another crack at it tomorrow.

So I've changed my mind. The initial quality of the car is fine. The quality of the operator, however, could stand some improvement. :eek:

Thanks for all the suggestions...

Dave


Wow! No one in my household would ever admit that they were wrong! There is hope...
sagaliba
quote:
Originally posted by sjlee


If you don't want your compressor or fan on at all, then you need to make sure that the climate control is not in Auto mode. I never have it set to Auto because I want to decide when to turn on the compressor/fan.


The problem is, that's the only way you can turn on the heater, by turning on auto "first."

That's why I feel Honda should have an "On" button, that will remember your previous setting, so you don't have to turn on Auto and override it every time, even if you that's really your prefered setting.
NSXBill
quote:
Originally posted by sagaliba

The problem is, that's the only way you can turn on the heater, by turn on auto "first."

That's way I feel Honda should have an "On" button, that will remember your previous setting, so you don't have to turn on Auto and override it every time, even if you that's really your prefered setting.



Just leave it on all the time. Settings will be same (ac off) when you start car
sagaliba
quote:
Originally posted by NSXBill


Just leave it on all the time. Settings will be same (ac off) when you start car


I know, but I don't like to leave it on all the time for three reasons.

1. I like to be able to turn it off when I don't need it, I just like to be able to go back to my prefer setting when I do need it.

2. In the cold morning, I would rather wait until the heater is warm up before the fan is blowing air.

3. As I read somewhere, it is better to turn it off to prevent moisture condensing inside the windshield.

Oh picky you might say, but this really doesn't take much to change, the "off" button for instance, can dup as the "on" button, and become the "on/off" (toggle) button. And "off" can just behave the same way as if you turn off the key, so this does not take extra programming either.
TheEaglePilot
quote:
Originally posted by sagaliba
2. In the cold morning, I would rather wait until the heater is warm up before the fan is blowing air.


The AUTO setting does this, um, automatically.

It's amazing how many posts I've read here complaining about the manual controls. Except to save gas, I can't imagine wanting to take it off of AUTO. I have enough to think about in my life!

Chris
jl_ss
quote:
Originally posted by sagaliba

I know, but I don't like to leave it on all the time for three reasons.

1. I like to be able to turn it off when I don't need it, I just like to be able to go back to my prefer setting when I do need it.

2. In the cold morning, I would rather wait until the heater is warm up before the fan is blowing air.

3. As I read somewhere, it is better to turn it off to prevent moisture condensing inside the windshield.

Oh picky you might say, but this really doesn't take much to change, the "off" button for instance, can dup as the "on" button, and become the "on/off" (toggle) button. And "off" can just behave the same way as if you turn off the key, so this does not take extra programming either.



1. I just use the temperature button in auto mode - works very well to keep me comfortable with very little effort.

2. In auto mode in the cold weather, the fan will not come on automatically until the heater starts to develop warm air.

3. A/C dehumidifies.
sjlee
quote:
Originally posted by sagaliba

The problem is, that's the only way you can turn on the heater, by turning on auto "first."



I don't understand what you mean by that. The temperature setting will still work no matter what mode it is in, so in that regard I guess you don't have a completely manual mode.

Like I said before, I never have it on Full Auto mode. I set the fan speed and turn on the A/C when I want it. If I want to change the temperature of the air coming out of the vents, I turn the temperature knob.
sagaliba
quote:
Originally posted by sjlee


I don't understand what you mean by that. The temperature setting will still work no matter what mode it is in, so in that regard I guess you don't have a completely manual mode.

Like I said before, I never have it on Full Auto mode. I set the fan speed and turn on the A/C when I want it. If I want to change the temperature of the air coming out of the vents, I turn the temperature knob.


When the system is off, you have to turn it on by turning on "Auto" fisrt, and then adjust it (i.e., turn off A/C, change fan speed, air distribution, etc.).

Oh well, I guess I am just used to how my Mercedes operates. I just did not realize it is consider a "luxury" for saving a couple of extra button pushing!:)
th10000
Well, after reading all these posts about so many "confused" owners trying to figure out how to make all the gadgets work, I now realize why I have have had so much time on my hands. With my LX I have no homelink, no auto a/c and no "disc" buttons on my radio to figure out, program, etc. Instead of wasting time reading the manual, searching posts and playing with buttons, I guess I will just go fishing. :2:
tfrain
quote:
Originally posted by th10000
Well, after reading all these posts about so many "confused" owners trying to figure out how to make all the gadgets work, I now realize why I have have had so much time on my hands. With my LX I have no homelink, no auto a/c and no "disc" buttons on my radio to figure out, program, etc. Instead of wasting time reading the manual, searching posts and playing with buttons, I guess I will just go fishing. :2:


I do wish I had the LX manual AC controls. I just like manual AC stuff better myself.
sjlee
quote:
Originally posted by sagaliba

When the system is off, you have to turn it on by turning on "Auto" fisrt, and then adjust it (i.e., turn off A/C, change fan speed, air distribution, etc.).

Oh well, I guess I am just used to how my Mercedes operates. I just did not realize it is consider a "luxury" for saving a couple of extra button pushing!:)



I see what you're saying now. Why do you turn the system off anyway? I just leave it on all the time.
DrWally
quote:
Originally posted by JimB823


Apparently they didn't change the stereo much from the 03 it seems



I think the stereo was designed for a right drive vehicle (ie., steering wheel on the right rather than left) based upon the position of the radio knobs. What do you all think?
tfrain
The Pilot is a north american only vehicle. It isn't sold anywhere else, and I don't think that particular radio goes in anything else, so I doubt it. On the RES models, the volume is on the left and the RR FR knob is in the middle.
sjlee
quote:
Originally posted by DrWally


I think the stereo was designed for a right drive vehicle (ie., steering wheel on the right rather than left) based upon the position of the radio knobs. What do you all think?



I don't have any problems with the position of any of the controls on the radio... what exactly do you think is "backwards"?

In most cases, I use the controls on the steering wheel anyway.
jl_ss
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Originally posted by tfrain
The Pilot is a north american only vehicle. It isn't sold anywhere else, .......


except the Middle east, which gets it as the MR-V.......Link
tfrain
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Originally posted by jl_ss


except the Middle east, which gets it as the MR-V.......Link



well I'll be darned - I didn't know it was sold anywhere else - thanks!
t00mies
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Originally posted by sjlee


I don't have any problems with the position of any of the controls on the radio... what exactly do you think is "backwards"?

In most cases, I use the controls on the steering wheel anyway.




i think they are backwards in the fact that the most used knob -- the channel changing knob -- is the furthest away from the driver. when i got the car, it took me a couple weeks to get used to reaching for the rightmost knob to change channels.



t
sjlee
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Originally posted by t00mies



i think they are backwards in the fact that the most used knob -- the channel changing knob -- is the furthest away from the driver. when i got the car, it took me a couple weeks to get used to reaching for the rightmost knob to change channels.
t



Weird... that's probably the least used knob on my radio. All the stations I listen to are set with the preset buttons, so I just use those to change the channel.
t00mies
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Originally posted by sjlee


Weird... that's probably the least used knob on my radio. All the stations I listen to are set with the preset buttons, so I just use those to change the channel.




yeah, but what about the channels that are not in your presets? i wish i had more presets for XM -- lately i have been listening to different stations in a particular category -- hence needing to reach over to move that right knob.

t
sjlee
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Originally posted by t00mies



yeah, but what about the channels that are not in your presets? i wish i had more presets for XM -- lately i have been listening to different stations in a particular category -- hence needing to reach over to move that right knob.

t



I don't have XM, so having 12 FM presets is plenty for me. I could also use the Scan button located on the left side if I really want to search for a station.
sagaliba
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Originally posted by TheEaglePilot

The AUTO setting does this, um, automatically.


Yes, it is supposed to. But the fan does come on before the air reaches my desired "warmth." I guess my car has a different definition of "warm" from mine. :)
TheEaglePilot
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Originally posted by sagaliba

Yes, it is supposed to. But the fan does come on before the air reaches my desired "warmth." I guess my car has a different definition of "warm" from mine. :)



I do sympathize with your annoyance with machines wanting to do your thinking for you. My compaints more often center around Microsoft products, but it's all the same theme...

Chris
sagaliba
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Originally posted by TheEaglePilot

My compaints more often center around Microsoft products, but it's all the same theme...


Don't get me started. :D
FADE
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Originally posted by TheEaglePilot

My compaints more often center around Microsoft products, but it's all the same theme...

Chris



LMAO

Quoted for truth!

Well I have not been in mine long enough to push all the buttons yet but one thing I did find strange is that the control's on the steering wheel do not light up. But I am not going to cry about it. lol:D
sjlee
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Originally posted by FADE


LMAO

Quoted for truth!

Well I have not been in mine long enough to push all the buttons yet but one thing I did find strange is that the control's on the steering wheel do not light up. But I am not going to cry about it. lol:D



I thought it was a pain at first, but after I got used to where all the buttons are, I was fine. I never look at them anyway... probably just as well... since I shouldn't be looking down while driving at night.
tim.s
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Originally posted by t00mies
yeah, but what about the channels that are not in your presets? i wish i had more presets for XM -- lately i have been listening to different stations in a particular category -- hence needing to reach over to move that right knob.

t

Agreed. It is pretty silly that there are only 6 presets that you can toggle through with the steering wheel controls. They should really have tune/scan buttons (up and down) on the steering wheel. I'd listen to a lot more XM stations if I could scan the channels with my fingertips instead of reaching across the dash. Either that or allow 10 or more presets.

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