| billpritjr |
I am getting 18 MPG highway, no matter what. Flat roads, wind, no wind, hills, no hills.
18 MPG, all the time.
Is this normal?
2004 Pilot, Mobil-1 oil, 31K, driven gently/well pampered |
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| dragoncoach |
| My average is about 18mpg. Straight city, in SF, it's about 15 and all highway is around 23. Highway mileage varies greatly if we are going up and down hills. |
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| jdeanski |
quote:
Originally posted by billpritjr
I am getting 18 MPG highway, no matter what. Flat roads, wind, no wind, hills, no hills.
18 MPG, all the time.
Is this normal?
2004 Pilot, Mobil-1 oil, 31K, driven gently/well pampered
Depends on your average speed, if you drive 80ish in hills that wouldn't supprise me. Here in Florida at 65/70ish with cruise control I get 22-24 mpg. |
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| rocky |
High speeds, heavy loads, thule boxes these all make a difference
So will driving in third not 4th/overdrive. I've seen it happen....... |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by billpritjr
I am getting 18 MPG highway, no matter what. Flat roads, wind, no wind, hills, no hills.
18 MPG, all the time.
Is this normal?
2004 Pilot, Mobil-1 oil, 31K, driven gently/well pampered
Can you describe EXACTLY how you measure your mileage.
I have trouble believing that anyone gets such constant MPG. |
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| kraky |
My 04 pilot was gear higher than my '07 and got about 2 mpg better. I wish they would have left the gearing alone......the 07 spins about 8-10% faster rpm.
If I was you I'd have the air cleaner checked and make sure the tires are at max pressure. Some people's driving habits don't get great mileage. When I ride with my brother in law he has his foot in the throttle HARD when leaving every stoplight.....this doesn't help. Trying to keep up with fast rush hour traffic isn't going to help either.
I think your 04 should be capable of getting alot better than that. |
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| larryziegler |
quote:
Originally posted by billpritjr
I am getting 18 MPG highway, no matter what. Flat roads, wind, no wind, hills, no hills.
18 MPG, all the time.
Is this normal?
2004 Pilot, Mobil-1 oil, 31K, driven gently/well pampered
I won't say its not normal, I will say its below average. In the worst of highways driving conditions I have experienced so far (high speeds of 80+ in addition to stop and go jams on the freeway) my worst mileage has been 20.5 mpg. My best at a constant cruise of 75mph is about 22.5 mpg. I consider my mileage to be average with what I have seen posted. I get 18 only in mixed highway/city driving. My tires are inflated at 33 lbs and I do have crossbars on the roof rails. I also run the "full auto" setting on the climate control at 75 90% of the time. |
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| krygny |
quote:
Originally posted by billpritjr
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Is this normal?
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No. I would ask Honda to check it. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Can you describe EXACTLY how you measure your mileage.
You will need to be able to describe this to get any meaningful attention from a dealer.:rolleyes: |
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| Samuel2003 |
quote:
Originally posted by billpritjr
I am getting 18 MPG highway, no matter what. Flat roads, wind, no wind, hills, no hills.
18 MPG, all the time.
Is this normal?
2004 Pilot, Mobil-1 oil, 31K, driven gently/well pampered
If it makes you feel any better, I get about 14 mpg mixed driving... :( |
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| enzie54 |
| I'm getting between 16-18 mixed driving with an 03. Hope that's normal. |
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| krygny |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Can you describe EXACTLY how you measure your mileage.
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I would give someone the benefit of the doubt, assume they made it past the fourth grade, and they are dividing the number of miles traveled by the number of gallons used. |
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| suvgal77 |
I have to agree with larryziegler. I think your hwy mileage is well below average. I get 17.5 with mostly suburban (closer to city than hwy) driving and the few times I've added in just a little hwy I've gotten close to 19. I also asked a friend who has a 2005 about his hwy mileage as he has many more miles on his than I have on mine and he told me hwy he averages 21-22 and if he's really careful he can get 24 mpg.
Maybe go to the dealer and have them check it out? |
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| tim.s |
I don't see the point. Comparing mileage between two different drivers in different driving conditions (even with the same model) has about as much validity as arguing with an Internet Troll.
My wife and I can switch cars for a week and she will always get +2 mpg better than me even though we both commute the same distance in "mixed traffic" with some "stop and go" and some "city streets".
When it comes down to it, she has different driving habits (braking and accelerating) and her opinion of bad traffic is never the same as mine. So even the same exact vehicle can improve 2 mpg just by changing drivers or changing routes. Heck, my own mileage will go up 1 or 2 mpg just by packing lunch and not getting take out for lunch or supper (idling in the drive through is a killer).
Although it is fine for someone to compare mileage in general to make sure they are not completely out of the norm, you can never really say they are a couple mpg high or low and should expect different.
In my opinion, without more data, 18mpg is the same as 20mpg. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by krygny
I would give someone the benefit of the doubt, assume they made it past the fourth grade, and they are dividing the number of miles traveled by the number of gallons used.
WOW and getting 187 MPG EVERY SINGE TIME!
That is friggin amazing!
They must have the best Pilot ever because that kind of consistency is unheard of! |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by suvgal77
I have to agree with larryziegler. I think your hwy mileage is well below average. I get 17.5 with mostly suburban (closer to city than hwy) driving and the few times I've added in just a little hwy I've gotten close to 19. I also asked a friend who has a 2005 about his hwy mileage as he has many more miles on his than I have on mine and he told me hwy he averages 21-22 and if he's really careful he can get 24 mpg.
Maybe go to the dealer and have them check it out?
But we have ABSOLUTELY no information of HOW THEY DRIVE or HOW THEY MEASURED MPG, so agreeing with either side is JUST ANOTHER GUESS! |
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| krygny |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
WOW and getting 187 MPG EVERY SINGE TIME!
That is friggin amazing!
They must have the best Pilot ever because that kind of consistency is unheard of!
Was there a post deleted somewhere? Who's getting 187 mpg? |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by krigen
Was there a post deleted somewhere? Who's getting 187 mpg?
187 is about as believe able as;
"I am getting 18 MPG highway, no matter what. Flat roads, wind, no wind, hills, no hills. 18 MPG, all the time." |
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| krygny |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
187 is about as believe able as;
"I am getting 18 MPG highway, no matter what. Flat roads, wind, no wind, hills, no hills. 18 MPG, all the time."
I took the post to simply mean he's getting consistently bad highway mileage; maybe 17.2 from one tankful, 18.6 from another, etc., and he's just rounding.
Regardless, it's lousy mileage and I would have the car checked. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by krygny
I took the post to simply mean he's getting consistently bad highway mileage; maybe 17.2 from one tankful, 18.6 from another, etc., and he's just rounding.
Regardless, it's lousy mileage and I would have the car checked.
Maybe it's the engineer in me;
but before I check a "otherwise well running" system,
I check the meter!:4: :4: |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Can you describe EXACTLY how you measure your mileage.
I have trouble believing that anyone gets such constant MPG.
Has this been answered yet? |
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| krygny |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Has this been answered yet?
Why do you impugn someone's ability to measure gas mileage? It's about as simple as anything gets. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by krygny
Why do you impugn someone's ability to measure gas mileage? It's about as simple as anything gets.
Because of the number if times people have posted INCORRECT methods here in the past. |
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| krygny |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Because of the number if times people have posted INCORRECT methods here in the past.
It's all for the sake of discussion anyway. If you just choose to assume the person is wrong, or lying, or whatever, then there's no sense in discussing anything and we might as well shut down the site. Yes, people post things that are dubious on the surface (e.g., "I need my radio code but I can't bring the car to a dealer - don't ask why."). But I don't see anything "suspect" about someone getting lousy mileage. If someone says they're getting lousy mileage, I have no practical reason not to believe them. You seem to assume they don't know how to record mileage just because some people don't. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by krygny
It's all for the sake of discussion anyway. If you just choose to assume the person is wrong, or lying, or whatever, then there's no sense in discussing anything and we might as well shut down the site. Yes, people post things that are dubious on the surface (e.g., "I need my radio code but I can't bring the car to a dealer - don't ask why."). But I don't see anything "suspect" about someone getting lousy mileage. If someone says they're getting lousy mileage, I have no practical reason not to believe them. You seem to assume they don't know how to record mileage just because some people don't.
I think I said:
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Can you describe EXACTLY how you measure your mileage.
My point is that it is just as foolish to discuss the topic GUESSING his numbers are right, as it is GUESSING his numbers are wrong.
All I asked was to clarify how he got the numbers. |
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| krygny |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
I think I said:
My point is that it is just as foolish to discuss the topic GUESSING his numbers are right, as it is GUESSING his numbers are wrong.
All I asked was to clarify how he got the numbers.
What if he tells you? How do you know he's not lying?
This discussion has already gone from ridiculous to ludicrous. Want to try for "plaid"? |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by krygny
What if he tells you? How do you know he's not lying?
This discussion has already gone from ridiculous to ludicrous. Want to try for "plaid"?
Why would I think he is lying? (you seem to have trust issues):rolleyes:
What is the chance of him lying and presenting a truly reasonable way to calculate MPG, if the method he is using is not sound?
At least knowing the (suposed) method used allows us (well most of us) to have a meaningful discussion. |
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| sjlee |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
My point is that it is just as foolish to discuss the topic GUESSING his numbers are right, as it is GUESSING his numbers are wrong.
All I asked was to clarify how he got the numbers.
Regardless of his calculation method, it's not possible to get exactly 18 MPG every single time, so I think we can safely assume that he just chose his words poorly in his initial post.
It's not foolish at all to assume his numbers are right... it's common courtesy and giving someone the benefit of the doubt. I think it is "foolish" to expect someone to have to explain their method of calculation when they are asking a simple question...
"Is 18 MPG on the highway normal?"
Granted the original poster didn't choose his words carefully by saying "all the time", but I don't think he should be nitpicked just because he worded his post improperly.
The answer is... it depends. It depends on how fast you're driving, if you use cruise control, if the tires are properly inflated, what accessories on installed that might affect drag... etc.
In my experience, an average of 18 MPG is normal for mixed driving, but low for highway driving. Obviously if you drive differently than we do, YMMV.
I will say, however, that all these MPG threads are getting annoying. I can understand why people are complaining/asking about MPG since gas prices are higher, but is it too much for them to just look at active threads or search? |
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| tim.s |
quote:
Originally posted by krygny
...This discussion has already gone from ridiculous to ludicrous. Want to try for "plaid"?
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| krygny |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Why would I think he is lying? (you seem to have trust issues):rolleyes:
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My point was you could just as easily assume he's lying, as assume he's stupid or incompetent. You chose stupid/incompetent. I have trust issues?
Nice pickup on the Spaceballs reference, tim. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by krygny
My point was you could just as easily assume he's lying, as assume he's stupid or incompetent. You chose stupid/incompetent. I have trust issues?
Why all the negative terms.
Maybe I just DID NOT ASSUME, and therefore asked how the data was collected?:rolleyes: :rolleyes: |
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| krygny |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Why all the negative terms.
Maybe I just DID NOT ASSUME, and therefore asked how the data was collected?:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
This is unbelievable.
The "data is collected" by dividing the number of miles traveled by the number of gallons used. It is that simple. Why would it even occur to you that someone wouldn't know that? |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by krygny
This is unbelievable.
The "data is collected" by dividing the number of miles traveled by the number of gallons used. It is that simple. Why would it even occur to you that someone wouldn't know that?
You obviously have not been in any of the many discussions where people have described the many (non-valid) methods they have used to get a MPG number that they have then tried to compare with others. |
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| Mcsierra |
I have an 06 Pilot and here are my Numbers..
- Average Tank goes = 245.02
- Average Gallons = 16.79
- Average PPG: $2.394
- Average Fill cost: $40.20
- Average MPG: 14.65
- Average Price per Mile: $0.165
- Average Miles per Dollar: 6.19
Oil has changed with Royal Purple both times (I have a total of 9,078 miles)
Because this is about MPG, i'll also give my BEST and WORST numbers in this field..
Best: 19.81
Worst: 12.16
Have a full spreadsheet with all of the above categories from the day I bought the truck. If anyone want to question any formula I will be happy to sent it to you..
Driving in the Pilot is 75% done by the wife. It has been on two road trips one to Vermont and the other to Boston, from NJ. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by Mcsierra
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Best: 19.81
Worst: 12.16
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So, is there extreme variation due to differences in tank to tank measurements, or in poor reproducibility of results in your (everyone's) measurement methods?
Is there any trend to the data?
Did you delete the first tank? |
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| Mcsierra |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
So, is there extreme variation due to differences in tank to tank measurements, or in poor reproducibility of results in your (everyone's) measurement methods?
Is there any trend to the data?
Did you delete the first tank?
Check out the Sheet..
http://tinyurl.com/3dkm9f
Note: It's a XLS file so it will just promt you to download it.
Feel free to post up any questions... |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by Mcsierra
Check out the Sheet..
http://tinyurl.com/3dkm9f
Note: It's a XLS file so it will just promt you to download it.
Feel free to post up any questions...
Looks like there may be some data errors.
11/4/2006
11/16/2006
5/27/2007
Also, it seems that the maintenance minder is saying you use the car fairly hard.
Also, I think your gas brand is off a row, since I think it is what you filled up with (irrelevant), not what you burned to get that particular MPG figure.
It looks like the Amico could be one of the issues, but I tend to think it is more related to the other gas being used on trips with more highway miles.
EDIT: Data analysis is so much fun. :D
Look at the correlation between "Days Between Fill-ups" and "MPG"
Verrrrry Interesting!!!!! :eek: :4: ;) ;) |
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| Mcsierra |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Looks like there may be some data errors.
11/4/2006
11/16/2006
5/27/2007
Also, it seems that the maintenance minder is saying you use the car fairly hard.
Also, I think your gas brand is off a row, since I think it is what you filled up with (irrelevant), not what you burned to get that particular MPG figure.
It looks like the Amico could be one of the issues, but I tend to think it is more related to the other gas being used on trips with more highway miles.
EDIT: Data analysis is so much fun. :D
Look at the correlation between "Days Between Fill-ups" and "MPG"
Verrrrry Interesting!!!!! :eek: :4: ;) ;)
I would have to go back into Quicken and run a report on both months in question to get the amount spent on fuel for the Pilot to find out what my error was on the 3 dates you questioned..
You're right I was surprised after having put in the Royal Purple that it said I needed to change it with only 4,798 miles on it..
As you can see I'm a loyal Amico shopper. The times where my MPG is high (other brands used) was during the road trips mentioned in my original post on this tread. So those were 100% highway miles....
The point of me joining this tread and sharing my spreadsheet was to show the how POOR the Pilot does.. Remove the 3 lines in question from my sheet.. Does it really change the performance? |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by Mcsierra
I would have to go back into Quicken and run a report on both months in question to get the amount spent on fuel for the Pilot to find out what my error was on the 3 dates you questioned..
You're right I was surprised after having put in the Royal Purple that it said I needed to change it with only 4,798 miles on it..
As you can see I'm a loyal Amico shopper. The times where my MPG is high (other brands used) was during the road trips mentioned in my original post on this tread. So those were 100% highway miles....
The point of me joining this tread and sharing my spreadsheet was to show the how POOR the Pilot does.. Remove the 3 lines in question from my sheet.. Does it really change the performance?
I would guess that the normal non-trip miles are a lot of very short trips where the engine never fully warms up, or a lot of idling.
That fact you get close to normal MPG on trips shows that your poor mileage has much to do with how the Pilot is used most of the time. |
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| Mcsierra |
It is used in the AM to get the Kids off to school and then the wife to work.. I'd say it's about 20 miles... on that run...
Home from work.. same distance
IF it's used after that it would be to take kids to sporting events. Under 1 mile...
Weekends.. I drive it, distance will vary...
So in order to get "Normal" MPG I have to drive it solely on the highway?
Don't get me wrong... We like the truck and plan to buy it (It's a Lease) but the MGP is a HUGE disappointment for me. I also have a Dodge Grand Caravan with 213,199 miles on it and that out performs the Pilot.. YES the miles are correct 213K miles on it..!!! Oh and YES I have the Spreadsheet for that car too..!
I baby the cars.. Royal Purple on regular oil change intervals. Van gets it's oil changed every 10,000 miles.. Check tire pressure and as you can see I make them last...
My bottom line.. MY Pilot's fuel consumption is a disappointment, and I have numbers to prove it.! |
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| sjlee |
quote:
Originally posted by Mcsierra
You're right I was surprised after having put in the Royal Purple that it said I needed to change it with only 4,798 miles on it..
It's just a coincidence. The Maintenance Minder system does not know what kind of oil you're putting in. There are no oil analysis sensors in the Pilot. The system just uses a formula using your driving conditions (e.g. temp) and habits to determine when to change the oil. |
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| sjlee |
quote:
Originally posted by Mcsierra
So in order to get "Normal" MPG I have to drive it solely on the highway?
Don't get me wrong... We like the truck and plan to buy it (It's a Lease) but the MGP is a HUGE disappointment for me. I also have a Dodge Grand Caravan with 213,199 miles on it and that out performs the Pilot.. YES the miles are correct 213K miles on it..!!! Oh and YES I have the Spreadsheet for that car too..!
Not at all. The gas mileage that we've gotten on our Pilot consistently falls within the EPA estimate MPG range that was listed on our window sticker (17/22).
External accessories, tire pressure and driving style all have huge impacts on the Pilot's gas mileage. Also, I noticed that you have less than 10k miles on your Pilot. In our experience (and others on this site), after 10k, the Pilot's gas mileage increased slightly.
A Dodge Caravan is lighter and more aerodynamic than the Pilot, so I would expect it to get better gas mileage. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by Mcsierra
It is used in the AM to get the Kids off to school and then the wife to work.. I'd say it's about 20 miles... on that run...
Home from work.. same distance
IF it's used after that it would be to take kids to sporting events. Under 1 mile...
Weekends.. I drive it, distance will vary...
So in order to get "Normal" MPG I have to drive it solely on the highway?
Don't get me wrong... We like the truck and plan to buy it (It's a Lease) but the MGP is a HUGE disappointment for me. I also have a Dodge Grand Caravan with 213,199 miles on it and that out performs the Pilot.. YES the miles are correct 213K miles on it..!!! Oh and YES I have the Spreadsheet for that car too..!
I baby the cars.. Royal Purple on regular oil change intervals. Van gets it's oil changed every 10,000 miles.. Check tire pressure and as you can see I make them last...
My bottom line.. MY Pilot's fuel consumption is a disappointment, and I have numbers to prove it.!
I'm guessing there are more of those "under 1 mile" trips than you think.
That would explain both the poor MPG an and the short oil change interval. |
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| hiramhonda |
I posted this on the thread about 40mpg????, but this one is interesting also, so I'll just copy my post here....for what it's worth as this started out as a highway mileage thread, I believe. I can promise I'm not lying, my calculation methods are sound, although I don't keep all records on a spreadsheet. Since I'm retired, we don't get a lot of heavy city driving, more like suburan driving, but we rarely get below 18 mpg or so in that type driving. The Pilot is an LX, so no roof rack at all.
But back to highway mileage....here's my story:
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My wife and I just returned from a three week trip in our '03 LX AWD....it turned over 100,000 miles roughly half way into the trip. We drove from the Atlanta area out through S Dakota to the usual spots...Rushmore, Yellowstone (over Beartooth), Tetons, up to Glacier and back through N Dakota, Minn, Wis and back down home.....total trip was 6526 miles. We filled up before the start and as soon as we got back home and logged every fillup in detail, etc. I was driving as normal..some of the trip was in high altitude, some flat, etc. I drove generally around the speed limit when on the Interstate (although I'm always getting told I'm driving too fast), but rarely over 75 mph. We used the low octane gas....85 - 87 and a few places had Ethanol in it, but not too many. We averaged 22.22 mpg....taking the total miles driven divided by the total gallons bought. Just as a test, I also averaged the mpg I had calculated for each fillup and it came out at 22.27...so it verified the other calculation.
We had just installed new Michelin Cross Terrain SUV tires right before we left. There were just the two of us, but we don't pack lightly....plus camera gear for both of us and two tripods, etc. I ran the AC most of the time, did not baby the car at all.
Last year we did a 5400 mile trip in the SW and while I didn't keep as many details of the mileage, I did keep the total miles and total dollars spent. Last year the cost of fuel per mile was $.143 and this year it was $.144. Gas was a probably a little higher this year, so my mileage last year may have been a little less.
This Pilot has always gotten good mileage, but seems to have just gotten a little better as it has more miles. It's time very soon for it's 105k checkup...new plugs, timing belt, etc...hope they don't screw it up!!
Just thought my experience might be interesting to those of you interested in gas mileage. |
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| sjlee |
quote:
Originally posted by hiramhonda
I posted this on the thread about 40mpg????, but this one is interesting also, so I'll just copy my post here....for what it's worth as this started out as a highway mileage thread, I believe. I can promise I'm not lying, my calculation methods are sound, although I don't keep all records on a spreadsheet. Since I'm retired, we don't get a lot of heavy city driving, more like suburan driving, but we rarely get below 18 mpg or so in that type driving. The Pilot is an LX, so no roof rack at all.
But back to highway mileage....here's my story:
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My wife and I just returned from a three week trip in our '03 LX AWD....it turned over 100,000 miles roughly half way into the trip. We drove from the Atlanta area out through S Dakota to the usual spots...Rushmore, Yellowstone (over Beartooth), Tetons, up to Glacier and back through N Dakota, Minn, Wis and back down home.....total trip was 6526 miles. We filled up before the start and as soon as we got back home and logged every fillup in detail, etc. I was driving as normal..some of the trip was in high altitude, some flat, etc. I drove generally around the speed limit when on the Interstate (although I'm always getting told I'm driving too fast), but rarely over 75 mph. We used the low octane gas....85 - 87 and a few places had Ethanol in it, but not too many. We averaged 22.22 mpg....taking the total miles driven divided by the total gallons bought. Just as a test, I also averaged the mpg I had calculated for each fillup and it came out at 22.27...so it verified the other calculation.
We had just installed new Michelin Cross Terrain SUV tires right before we left. There were just the two of us, but we don't pack lightly....plus camera gear for both of us and two tripods, etc. I ran the AC most of the time, did not baby the car at all.
Last year we did a 5400 mile trip in the SW and while I didn't keep as many details of the mileage, I did keep the total miles and total dollars spent. Last year the cost of fuel per mile was $.143 and this year it was $.144. Gas was a probably a little higher this year, so my mileage last year may have been a little less.
This Pilot has always gotten good mileage, but seems to have just gotten a little better as it has more miles. It's time very soon for it's 105k checkup...new plugs, timing belt, etc...hope they don't screw it up!!
Just thought my experience might be interesting to those of you interested in gas mileage.
22 MPG sounds about right for highway driving (in line with EPA estimate). If you've got over 100k miles in 4 years, then I'd say you are doing mostly highway driving.
That's a far cry from 40 MPG... or even 30 MPG. |
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| hiramhonda |
sjlee,
We live in the surburbs of ATlanta, GA (long way to most everything, but we don't drive in bumper to bumper traffic very often any more). For the first couple of years we had this Pilot, my wife drove it back and forth to work everyday (about 30 miles round trip which accounts for a lot of the miles) plus most of our other family driving and trips. She retired 2 1/2 years ago and we still drive 300 or so miles around the area per week and we've done several long trips in that time.
But, also, I bought the Pilot new in August 2002, so we've had it 4 years and 10 months, approximately.
I looked at Edmunds yesterday and it gave a number for an individual selling it at between $ 15 - 16 k.....does that sound about right to anyone. You don't see many with over 100k miles. It's been taken care of with frequent oil changes, 2 transmission services, several (don't have records at hand) diff services, etc. |
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| sjlee |
quote:
Originally posted by hiramhonda
I looked at Edmunds yesterday and it gave a number for an individual selling it at between $ 15 - 16 k.....does that sound about right to anyone. You don't see many with over 100k miles. It's been taken care of with frequent oil changes, 2 transmission services, several (don't have records at hand) diff services, etc.
That sounds about right for a 2003 Pilot LX with about 62k miles ("typical" according to Kelly's Blue Book). The reason you don't see many Pilots with over 100k miles is because 2003 is the first year for the Pilot. That means you would have to average about 25k miles a year. |
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| GreenMachine |
I went on another trip to Orlando last weekend. I went 382 miles on 18.2 gallons, which is right at 21mpg. About 15% of those miles were done in town, and I had the A/C on the entire tank. It is June in Florida after all. Oh, Vtec also got a few workouts merging onto the highways. :D When I was on the highway, my Scangauge II routinely fluctuated between about 21 to 24mpg at around 72mph. I decided to get in behind a tractor-trailer to see if drafting helped the fuel economy any. I saw the instant mpg go up and stay between 26 and 28mpg at about 72mph. I did this for about a mile, and got tired of looking at the back of a truck.
Overall, I am still very happy with the fuel economy of such a large, very safe SUV. |
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| CMasten |
Just got back from AZ from So Cal visting friends. I wanted to see what kind of mileage I got off the new cross terrains over the stock GYs. The last trip I took to Sonora up through central CA got me about 24 mpg at 70/75mph with 2 adults, 2 kids and LOTS of "stuff" . This trip was just the 2 kids and myself as my wife is on a trip with her mom.
I tried to keep to the 75 mph through the desert between CA and AZ... but it was too booring and too hot, so kept it up around 80-85 most of the way with the AC on. I got almost exactly 20.5 mpg on the way out and just about the same on the way back. I think the tires had a little to do with it, but probably lost a few mpg kicking it up from 75 to 80/85.
Over all not too bad for an SUV of this size and it handled very well, this is a great vehicle for trips! It also has no problems running up some pretty steep hills with a full load and the AC on at 80mph, the VTEC is a great motor. |
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