| cwa107 |
Well guys, it's been a long time since I've stopped to say hi, but today is a red-letter day. I just traded in my Mazda 6 for a 2007 Accord EX-L V6. Took a major bath on the Mazda - found out the hard way that they don't hold their value too well.
Let me say this for any of you that might be on the fence about Mazda - I don't know about their entire line, but the 6 is a piece of junk. In one year and 12,000 miles, the car basically started to fall apart. Plastic pieces were breaking, creaking, getting loose. Random trim clips would be found laying on the floor for no apparent reason. Panels started rattling. Windows started rattling. It takes the dealer nearly a month to get any replacement parts. Tires were cupped and making horrible noises. I could go on and on.
If you are used to Honda quality, you may initially be impressed with a Mazda, but they just don't hold up the same way.
My nightmare is over, and now I'm back to the family. Sorry for the poor picture quality. I just picked it up this evening and haven't had a chance to take a picture outside (and I know Jay will be all over me without pics): |
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| colorider |
Congrats cwa107 and welcome back!!!!!! The new Accord looks GREAT!!!!
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| cwa107 |
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Originally posted by colorider
Congrats cwa107 and welcome back!!!!!! The new Accord looks GREAT!!!!
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Thanks, it's great to be back, even if it's not in a Pilot. This is a 3-year lease (mostly to get out of the negative equity in my Mazda). It's affordable, I've lowered the monthly payment that I had on my Mazda and I'll probably finance the next vehicle (maybe a 2010 Pilot? Who knows....)
Oh, and one more big thing! We just found out last weekend that my wife is pregnant for our second. So, fortunately, the Accord has a whole lot more car seat room in the back, since we'll need a rear-facing seat again.
I know I said it before, but I'll say it again - nothing beats a Honda. I was lured by the Mazda's sportiness, but its charm fades quickly. The Mazda was rated at 215hp (I think), but it was very peaky - meaning that you had to floor it to know it was actually a V6. Keeping up with traffic was a chore since it loved to drop the transmission into 6th gear - even to the point of lugging the engine. The Honda is the polar opposite. Its torque curve is broad and ample throughout the RPM range. Much more responsive and fun to drive.
I really don't think I'll ever stray from Honda again. I tell you, the difference is like night and day. I used to dread going to work in the morning in the Mazda. In contrast, the Honda is like a Lexus - smooth, quiet and very comfortable.
Glad to see a familiar face too, Colorider! I see you're driving a bimmer these days? |
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| rocky |
Welcome home.
some great deals on the 07s as they clear the stock ahead of the FMC in 08 |
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| cwa107 |
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Originally posted by rocky
Welcome home.
some great deals on the 07s as they clear the stock ahead of the FMC in 08
Thanks Rocky. Yep, I couldn't believe the speed at which I got into this vehicle. I drove into the dealership over my lunch today and rolled out by 6pm. It was like a whirlwind.
It is a lease, and I'm sure N-Jay will lecture me about it, but I simply couldn't afford to finance. The lease was my best bet in getting out of the Mazda, while still being able to have the car I wanted. For now, it's less per month than I had been paying and I managed to only have to put $1500 down. I know I'll have nothing to show for it in the end, but at least I won't have a falling apart Mazda to trade in at minimum trade-in value and years of annoyances to go wth it. |
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| cwa107 |
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Originally posted by jay
Nice looking Accord!
Thanks! 3 free months of XM with it too!
See, I didn't forget about the smiley patrol ;) |
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| dustino8 |
Don't feel so bad about the lease. I leased our 2005 Civic, and when I buy it out at the end, it will end up being less than financing it over the same period of time because of the lower financing rate. Plus, in my neck of the woods, a 4 year old civic goes for more than 10K, and my buyout is only $6600. I'd be crazy not to buy it.
Of course, if you just let the car go at the end, you will be losing out. |
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| Luwin1026 |
| Great car!! Just finished a deal for a friend on an Accord SE last night - very impressive sedan. Good choice - welcome back! |
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| Ferdball |
| Hey man, sorry to hear about your 6. I've only had my speed3 for less than a year. So far, other than one recall, all is holding up well. |
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| robrecht |
| I test drove a MazdaSpeed 6 and was not impressed. As for reliability, though, you can't get much more reliable than a Mazda Miata. A couple of years back, CR called it the most reliable car of the century (actually it was only in the top 5 IIRC). My daily driver is 15 years old, gets abused regularly, even with a few track days, and still has perfect compression. Not bad for a cheap little car that's lots of fun to drive. |
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| epdenk |
| I too went from a Mazda 6 to an Accord. Mine was an 03 that had 60K on the clock went I sold it to Carmax. I didn't trust the auto trans. It had 1-2 and 2-3 "shift shock" under certain loading conditions. It felt like you had just been rear ended. Mazda would not acknowledge the problem but funny how they went to a different transmission for model year 2005. That and numerous trips to the dealer for evaporative system repairs, faulty seat padding under the leather as well as faulty brake roters after 6K miles, turned me off on Mazda corp for a very long time to come. My 06 Accord has 33K on it and all I've done is oil changes (Synthetic) and a trans fluid drain and fill. No repair visits at all! |
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| eluwak |
| I think we'll have an Accord EX-L Sedan soon. The Pilot runs me about $400/mo over what I used to do with my Jetta and it's killing me. I'm hoping a low price will help absorb some negative equity and lower payments about $200/mo and get much better economy to boot. |
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| cwa107 |
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Originally posted by eluwak
I think we'll have an Accord EX-L Sedan soon. The Pilot runs me about $400/mo over what I used to do with my Jetta and it's killing me. I'm hoping a low price will help absorb some negative equity and lower payments about $200/mo and get much better economy to boot.
You might want to jump on an '07 now for a good deal - the redesigned '08s should be at dealers soon.
Car and Driver's blurb about the '08 indicates that the EPA now classifies it as a "large" car instead of a mid-size. I'm sure Honda has packaged it well, but I'd be afraid that the added weight and size might have a significant impact on performance and fuel economy (obviously, the jury's still out). I'm also not impressed with the interior layout (JMO).
The '08s also have cylinder cut-off, which is something that sort of scares based on some of the comments I've read about it.
Anyway, I am absolutely in LOVE with this car, as much as I was with my Pilot. At this point, I'm planning on buying it out at the end of the lease.
It's amazing how much influence the color of a car can have on you. I always thought color wasn't that important until now - I just keep seeing it and thinking how sharp it is - especially with all the chrome accents. |
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| cwa107 |
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Originally posted by epdenk
I too went from a Mazda 6 to an Accord. Mine was an 03 that had 60K on the clock went I sold it to Carmax. I didn't trust the auto trans. It had 1-2 and 2-3 "shift shock" under certain loading conditions. It felt like you had just been rear ended. Mazda would not acknowledge the problem but funny how they went to a different transmission for model year 2005. That and numerous trips to the dealer for evaporative system repairs, faulty seat padding under the leather as well as faulty brake roters after 6K miles, turned me off on Mazda corp for a very long time to come. My 06 Accord has 33K on it and all I've done is oil changes (Synthetic) and a trans fluid drain and fill. No repair visits at all!
Well, let's see what happened to my '06 in the course of a year:
1. Broken Lumbar Support in the first few days. Took two attempts and a total of 3 months to correct.
2. Odd transmission shifting patterns (engine would lug because the thing would shift into 6th gear at 35 MPH). Shift shock when accelerating from a rolling stop. Occasional slippage - and yes, this was on the "improved" Aisin-Warner 6-speed. Dealer dismissed this as "normal"
3. Dashboard squeaks, creaks and rattles.
4. Driver's side window rattles loudly when driving with window half way down. Took almost 2.5 months to correct, with wrong part ordered at first.
5. Tires were 215/45 R18 which is a very rare size. The cheapest tires ran around $200/piece. This was very disappointing as they became "cupped" and made loud thrumming noises at speeds less than 50 MPH. This became so bad that passengers would ask me if I had a flat.
6. Leather tore on the backside of the passenger's seat at 1 month old. I don't believe this was caused by my 2-year-old who was the only occupant of the back seat.
7. Engine lacks power at non-highway speeds. It would go if you floored it, but the rest of the time you couldn't keep up with traffic. Much of this has to do with a poor intake design, where a solenoid kept part of the intake duct closed at moderate throttle. This is mostly to keep noise down, but in effect, it starved the engine.
8. Factory moonroof leaks in car washes and occasionally in heavy rain.
9. Headliner nicked at delivery (I made the dealer note this in case I ever wanted it repaired - I just couldn't see having a brand new car ripped apart over a nick).
...and that's just off the top of my head. Am I crazy for thinking a new car just shouldn't have these kinds of problems? And is it unreasonable to expect a dealer to get replacement parts in less than a month or two? Remember this is a car that stickered for $28,900 (of course after rebates it was about $$26K).
But the worst thing of all is that after only 1 year and 12,000 miles, my car was worth about $17K KBB trade-in. That's $10K in a single year.
Anyway, I'm done with Mazda - and Ford for that matter. Getting out of that car and into the Accord was like going from a seat in Coach to First Class. I'm all Honda from here on out... |
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| cwa107 |
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Originally posted by robrecht
I test drove a MazdaSpeed 6 and was not impressed. As for reliability, though, you can't get much more reliable than a Mazda Miata. A couple of years back, CR called it the most reliable car of the century (actually it was only in the top 5 IIRC). My daily driver is 15 years old, gets abused regularly, even with a few track days, and still has perfect compression. Not bad for a cheap little car that's lots of fun to drive.
I think the Miata is a decent car. I've never heard anything bad said about it.
I really shouldn't generalize about Mazda based on my experience alone. But I do think they have a long way to go in terms of quality and design before they're much a threat to Honda, at least in the mid-size family sedan category. |
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| ncelk |
I can't speak for the Mazda 6, but I am on my 2nd Miata and in my experience, Mazda does know how to put them together at least.
Sorry about your experience, hope you enjoy your Accord! |
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| cwa107 |
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Originally posted by ncelk
I can't speak for the Mazda 6, but I am on my 2nd Miata and in my experience, Mazda does know how to put them together at least.
Sorry about your experience, hope you enjoy your Accord!
I think it has a lot to do with the quality of the materials and the assembly plant. My 6 was built at the AutoAlliance plant in Flat Rock, MI - coincidentally on the same lines that produced the Ford Probe / Mazda 626 / Mazda MX-6. None of those had a stellar reputation for quality either. |
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| donx |
Welcome back to the Honda family! I still remember your Red Pilot with the after market clear lens tail lights that you traded with Sunday Rider. :2:
I am sorry to hear that Mazda6 did not work well with you. The only Mazda I drove for more than 1 week was a Mazda6 I rented in South California during Christmas holidays in 2003. It looked great, but way too slowww, even much slower than my then 2004 Sienna, I was not happy at all driving it.
Another side note for Miata, I always heard good stories how reliable they are, but after I test drove both the old Miata and the new MX-5, not as fast as what I expected, so I ended up with a Boxster. :cool:
Happy :roadtrip: |
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| ncelk |
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Originally posted by donx
Welcome back to the Honda family! I still remember your Red Pilot with the after market clear lens tail lights that you traded with Sunday Rider. :2:
I am sorry to hear that Mazda6 did not work well with you. The only Mazda I drove for more than 1 week was a Mazda6 I rented in South California during Christmas holidays in 2003. It looked great, but way too slowww, even much slower than my then 2004 Sienna, I was not happy at all driving it.
Another side note for Miata, I always heard good stories how reliable they are, but after I test drove both the old Miata and the new MX-5, not as fast as what I expected, so I ended up with a Boxster. :cool:
Happy :roadtrip:
That is what works for me. With the Miata, you FEEL like you are going really fast, then you look down and you are doing 60. With a Boxster, my license might last 2 weeks..............Maybe..............:cool: Great cars though. I have a friend that has a 2000 S model and it is a blast to drive. |
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| donx |
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Originally posted by ncelk
That is what works for me. With the Miata, you FEEL like you are going really fast, then you look down and you are doing 60. With a Boxster, my license might last 2 weeks..............Maybe..............:cool: Great cars though. I have a friend that has a 2000 S model and it is a blast to drive.
A few times, I thought I was driving normal speed, but looked down, it was almost 90 mph. :eek: So far no ticket yet, I hope I won't get one.:D
From my test driving, Miata handles exceptionally well, and a great value with great quality (I wonder why Mazda never thought of putting Mazda 3 Speed's engine to MX-5, at least as an added option, that way, it can competes with S2000, Z4 and maybe Boxster). For me, it is the sweet engine sound and the smile in my face driving in the curves that sold me to Boxster! |
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| eluwak |
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Originally posted by cwa107
You might want to jump on an '07 now for a good deal - the redesigned '08s should be at dealers soon.
We picked up an '07 EX-L Red/Grey... Did pretty good considering were a little over $6k upside down on the Pilot which came from traing our Pacifica. I traded my bike alog with it and we ended up with $26k OTD. Probably could have done better but we're happy with the results.
Came real close to buying a Camry tho... Glad we didn't in the end. The car was a comparably equipped XLE with Leather and they simply wouldn't budge below $27k on it. The Accord ended up right below $21k. I am really begining to think that Toyota buyers simply don't cross shop and I'm confused how they get people with such high prices :confused:
As it sits right now switching from the Pilot to the Accord will save us approx $315/mo between gas and payments :) |
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| cwa107 |
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Originally posted by eluwak
We picked up an '07 EX-L Red/Grey... Did pretty good considering were a little over $6k upside down on the Pilot which came from traing our Pacifica. I traded my bike alog with it and we ended up with $26k OTD. Probably could have done better but we're happy with the results.
Came real close to buying a Camry tho... Glad we didn't in the end. The car was a comparably equipped XLE with Leather and they simply wouldn't budge below $27k on it. The Accord ended up right below $21k. I am really begining to think that Toyota buyers simply don't cross shop and I'm confused how they get people with such high prices :confused:
As it sits right now switching from the Pilot to the Accord will save us approx $315/mo between gas and payments :)
Congrats! Better get some pictures up before you-know-who chimes in :D
Did you actually test drive the Camry? I'm not sure if it's still the same way, but when I test drove one back when I was shopping for the '02 Accord (which I had prior to the Pilot), I found that it was way too soft in comparison. Everything from the suspension to the steering screamed "Japanese Buick" to me. I thought Car and Driver's impressions were basically spot-on. Just recently, the Camry took 5th in a comparison test with the Accord coming out on top (as usual). |
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| eluwak |
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Originally posted by cwa107
Did you actually test drive the Camry?
Yeah... I drove a couple. The drive wasn't too bad but it was more floaty than the Accord. This didn't matter so much to me. There were some nice things that each had and the Camry was a slight bit larger.
Like I said before... I'm glad now that I bought the Accord instead. It is much quieter and the seat fits me better. |
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| jay |
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Originally posted by cwa107
Congrats! Better get some pictures up before you-know-who chimes in :D
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Busted!
:needpics:
I agree that the Camry is floaty. At my age, floaty works! A co-worker commented that if you won't drive a Crown Vic, the Camry works. :p |
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| cwa107 |
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Originally posted by jay
Busted!
:needpics:
I agree that the Camry is floaty. At my age, floaty works! A co-worker commented that if you won't drive a Crown Vic, the Camry works. :p
LOL... that's right, forgot you had traded in the xB on a Camry. Well, kudos for the hybrid model, that makes you a little younger in my book ;)
By the way, isn't that Camry getting a little long in the tooth now for you? You know the '08s are out now :p
Heck, you could even pick up a Hybrid Accord on the cheap at the moment. I've heard they're selling like Zunes... :2:
BTW, I'm busily accessorizing the Accord. I've already got my DICE iPod adapter (with text, BTW) and my fog lights are already in - heck of a lot easier than on the Pilot, BTW. Next up is the fender trim and possibly a spoiler. Of course, with kidlet number 2 on the way, finances are going to be tight and I'll need to be buying twice as many pampers. |
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| robrecht |
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Originally posted by cwa107
I've heard they're selling like Zunes... :2:
Yeah, Jay buying a Zune, that's like N_Jay voting for McCarthy ... I mean Eugene.
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| jay |
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Originally posted by robrecht
Yeah, Jay buying a Zune, that's like N_Jay voting for McCarthy ... I mean Eugene.
:2: :2: :2:
I wouldn't even buy a ZunePhone! :D |
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| Sportymonk |
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I wouldn't even buy a ZunePhone! :D
Thank you Jay for finding that. I needed a good laugh. Loved it. |
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| Sportymonk |
| Getting back on topic, I have to admit, we had not heard too much on CWA's Mazda and I was thinking of trying to talk my wife into some like that. (She wants a Porsche Cayman!). Glad to hear about the problems (sorry you had them though). I had started to buy a 626 in 2000 but a friend said they were having transmission problems. Wonder how much of their problems are tied to their relationship with Ford? |
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| Sunday Rider |
Welcome Back cwa107.
Sorry to hear about your Mazda experience.
Just bought a used 2005 for the wife, the 6, but only the four cylinder. It has only 27,000km and under warranty. So far so good. It drives real nice. But I guess I better keep an eye on it.
I tried to talk her into an Accord, Civic or even Camray, but she didn't like the styling. Wanted a BMW, but looked and looked, couldn't find the right one, with the mileage or history. Dealers had the best used ones, but priced way to high. Besides, number 2 son has his license now, and would be in trouble quick, he has no fear.
I told her to drive the Pilot for some time until she finds the right car, and I would take the motorbike to work. But she doesn't like the Pilot (them is fightn' words). So the Mazda 6 which was found at a Nissan dealer did the ticket, she like that style.
Congrats on number 2 kid on the way.
By the way still love the tail lights I got from you. |
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| Sunday Rider |
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Originally posted by donx
A few times, I thought I was driving normal speed, but looked down, it was almost 90 mph. :eek: So far no ticket yet, I hope I won't get one.:D
From my test driving, Miata handles exceptionally well, and a great value with great quality (I wonder why Mazda never thought of putting Mazda 3 Speed's engine to MX-5, at least as an added option, that way, it can competes with S2000, Z4 and maybe Boxster). For me, it is the sweet engine sound and the smile in my face driving in the curves that sold me to Boxster!
Don't let Donx fool you. He took me for a test drive. Donx is very calm and reasonable person when you are talking to him. BUT when he gets in the Boxster, LOOK OUT, he is WILD. He was taking 90 degree turns at 60 mph and grinning ear to ear. I was trying to be calm, but glad I had my rubber underwear on!
I wanted to pay him back with a ride on my motorbike, but he was too smart and said he had to get back!
But must admit the Boxster is a blast. |
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| cwa107 |
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Originally posted by Sunday Rider
Welcome Back cwa107.
Sorry to hear about your Mazda experience.
Just bought a used 2005 for the wife, the 6, but only the four cylinder. It has only 27,000km and under warranty. So far so good. It drives real nice. But I guess I better keep an eye on it.
I tried to talk her into an Accord, Civic or even Camray, but she didn't like the styling. Wanted a BMW, but looked and looked, couldn't find the right one, with the mileage or history. Dealers had the best used ones, but priced way to high. Besides, number 2 son has his license now, and would be in trouble quick, he has no fear.
I told her to drive the Pilot for some time until she finds the right car, and I would take the motorbike to work. But she doesn't like the Pilot (them is fightn' words). So the Mazda 6 which was found at a Nissan dealer did the ticket, she like that style.
I've heard the 4 cylinder models have a broader torque range, which makes them much more enjoyable to drive.
Aside from the quality problems with the interior, many of my gripes were with just general driveability, in particular, the "peaky" nature of the 3.0L and the transmission being ill-matched to the engine's torque curve.
Of course, the other major problem was with the tires, which were performance-oriented and very expensive ultra-low-profile Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S. I've read a number of complaints about those tires wearing unevenly and prematurely. It might have something to do with the rubber compound and the overall design of the tires.
There's plenty of people over on Mazda6Club.com that seem happy with their cars. I think a lot of them have the 4-cylinder model. Many of them say that the manual 2.3L models are actually quicker to 60 than the 3.0L.
I also believe that having owned a couple of Honda products set the bar a little too high for me. The Mazda interior simply wasn't up to the same quality standards (IMO).
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Congrats on number 2 kid on the way.
By the way still love the tail lights I got from you
Thanks! We're excited... and a little concerned about the logistics of having a 3-year-old and a newborn with both of us working full-time, but we'll make do.
Glad to hear the tail lights worked out so well. |
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| cwa107 |
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Originally posted by jay
I wouldn't even buy a ZunePhone! :D
That was hillarious. I saw that just the other day and emailed it to one of the only people I know that owns a Zune. Even he thought it was funny.
BTW, I've been LOVING my Mac since I bought it in December. I'm never going back, at least not for my primary machine. It goes to work with me every day too. Lots of people laugh at seeing a Microsoft-certified network admin with a Mac on his desk ;)
I tell them that dealing with 1100 Windows machines every day leaves me with little time to do any personal computing, so when I do, I want something that "just works". :D |
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| jay |
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Originally posted by cwa107
That was hillarious. I saw that just the other day and emailed it to one of the only people I know that owns a Zune. Even he thought it was funny.
BTW, I've been LOVING my Mac since I bought it in December. I'm never going back, at least not for my primary machine. It goes to work with me every day too. Lots of people laugh at seeing a Microsoft-certified network admin with a Mac on his desk ;)
I tell them that dealing with 1100 Windows machines every day leaves me with little time to do any personal computing, so when I do, I want something that "just works". :D
I've been in the computer biz my entire adult working life, and am happy that the company I'm with now has a corporate discount plan with Apple that we can benefit from for personal purchases.:p I use a Windows 2000 laptop or Unix thin client at work, and really enjoy getting back to my Macs at home. Since you thread-drifted your own thread, I figured you wouldn't mind if I added another thread-drifting post.
Nice Accord. How is it to keep looking clean? |
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| cwa107 |
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Originally posted by jay
I've been in the computer biz my entire adult working life, and am happy that the company I'm with now has a corporate discount plan with Apple that we can benefit from for personal purchases.:p I use a Windows 2000 laptop or Unix thin client at work, and really enjoy getting back to my Macs at home. Since you thread-drifted your own thread, I figured you wouldn't mind if I added another thread-drifting post.
Nice Accord. How is it to keep looking clean?
That's OK - I see this as a "catching up" thread - not just about my Accord. It really is like coming back to the family.
So far, so good. My wife has an "Indigo Ink" Corolla (pretty much the same color) and it's not too bad. |
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| robrecht |
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Originally posted by donx
From my test driving, Miata handles exceptionally well, and a great value with great quality (I wonder why Mazda never thought of putting Mazda 3 Speed's engine to MX-5, at least as an added option, that way, it can competes with S2000, Z4 and maybe Boxster).
Believe me, they've thought of it. Bob Hall, the original product planner for the 1990 Miata considered it a no-brainer from the first announcement of the 2.3 in 2001. Finally, Autonews recently reported that a slightly detuned turbocharged 2.3 will be offered in mid-2008 in the Mazdaspeed Miata, prior to the next redesign for 2010. As far as I know this has not yet been officially confirmed by Mazda.
How's that for a little thread drift? :roadtrip: |
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| auspilot |
cwa107 - I had a similar Mazda experience but a long time ago. I bought a new 92 626 and was able to compare it to my 84 Accord. They were both mid-range Japanese sedans but since the Mazda was 8 years newer, I figured it would be better...NOT! I felt like I was driving a cheap version of my 8 year older Accord.
No major problems, but over time the 626 didn't hold up nearly as well as the Accord either. For example, I had to replace the radiator, CV boots, air intake duct (twice) plus other things before 100k, while the Accord went to 150k essentially without anything mechanical breaking before I sold it.
That's when I realized Honda is really a unique brand. |
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| donx |
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Originally posted by Sunday Rider
Just bought a used 2005 for the wife, the 6, but only the four cylinder. ... Wanted a BMW...Besides, number 2 son has his license now, and would be in trouble quick, he has no fear.
Hey, Sunday Rider, I knew you were going to ended up with buying them a slow car on purpose. ;) Buying a BWM was probably an excuse for you to enjoy. :D Be careful one day they would ask to take your bike instead. :2: |
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| donx |
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Originally posted by robrecht
Believe me, they've thought of it. Bob Hall, the original product planner for the 1990 Miata considered it a no-brainer from the first announcement of the 2.3 in 2001. Finally, Autonews recently reported that a slightly detuned turbocharged 2.3 will be offered in mid-2008 in the Mazdaspeed Miata, prior to the next redesign for 2010. As far as I know this has not yet been officially confirmed by Mazda.
How's that for a little thread drift? :roadtrip:
Wow, that's interesting news, a Mazdaspeed Miata:cool: , that would finally allow Miata to compete in the areas S2000, Z4 and Boxster dominate! |
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| donx |
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Originally posted by cwa107
and a little concerned about the logistics of having a 3-year-old and a newborn with both of us working full-time, but we'll make do.
You can work it out!
Know a couple both happen to be my colleagues, they both work as contractors, a 3-year-old and a newborn in daycare, still thinking of having the third one. Wife was wanting my Boxster as their second car, but husband gave her an Odyssey. :D They do love their Odyssey now though. |
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| donx |
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Originally posted by Sunday Rider
He was taking 90 degree turns at 60 mph and grinning ear to ear. I was trying to be calm, but glad I had my rubber underwear on!
Hey, I thought you were enjoying the turn. :2:;) :7: |
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| robrecht |
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Originally posted by donx
Hey, I thought you were enjoying the turn. :2:;) :7:
I took my staid older neurologist brother-in-law for a spirited mountain drive in my Miata and took a few down-hill power curves like that. He only drives Mercedes, never smiles, only talks about neurons and synapses and brain pathology, and maybe it was because I was driving him to his Princeton reunion and he was feeling young again, but he just burst out laughing and said, "I didn't know a car could do that!"
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| cwa107 |
Yet another reason I love Honda:
I accidentally broke the driver's side lower dash cover while removing it (one of the retaining tabs). It's nothing major, but I'd still like to have it fully clipped in place so as to not cause any rattles.
The replacement piece was - get this - $8.25 from Majestic Honda. Every other make of car I've owned had wildly marked up prices on interior pieces like this. In fact, I damaged a similar piece on my Mazda and it was something like $120 for a replacement.
This is not the first time I've had to replace an interior trim piece in one of my Hondas, and it has never cost me more than $20 or so to do it.
I've had a lot of people tell me that "foreign cars suck because the parts are so expensive". I'm not sure about mechanical parts, but that surely isn't the case on interior pieces. |
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| jay |
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Originally posted by cwa107
Yet another reason I love Honda:
I accidentally broke the driver's side lower dash cover while removing it (one of the retaining tabs). It's nothing major, but I'd still like to have it fully clipped in place so as to not cause any rattles.
The replacement piece was - get this - $8.25 from Majestic Honda. Every other make of car I've owned had wildly marked up prices on interior pieces like this. In fact, I damaged a similar piece on my Mazda and it was something like $120 for a replacement.
This is not the first time I've had to replace an interior trim piece in one of my Hondas, and it has never cost me more than $20 or so to do it.
I've had a lot of people tell me that "foreign cars suck because the parts are so expensive". I'm not sure about mechanical parts, but that surely isn't the case on interior pieces.
My '98 Accord had a cupholder piece that down-sized the cupholder to the size of a 12 ounce soda can. I accidently tossed it away stuck to the bottom of a can, and that sucker was $13 to replace. Never lost the 2nd one. :cool: |
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| cwa107 |
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Originally posted by jay
My '98 Accord had a cupholder piece that down-sized the cupholder to the size of a 12 ounce soda can. I accidently tossed it away stuck to the bottom of a can, and that sucker was $13 to replace. Never lost the 2nd one. :cool:
I am familiar with that part. I paid $23 for mine (of course I didn't buy it online). Stuck to the bottom of a Taco Bell cup ;) After that, I put velcro on the bottom of it. |
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