| rocky |
Anyone know of a downloadable program to make PDF docs out of say word/excel files etc?
Hoping there is a reliable free one out there.
Thanks |
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| N_Jay |
win2pdf
Works great. |
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| LChisum |
Open Office Org Writer will export documents to PDF.
Link.
Larry |
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| Sportymonk |
I just use my Apple Powerbook. Mac OX X has been able to do this for years. Comes standard.
Just click Print and then the PDF icon on the print menu and it saves it as a PDF file. Works in any application you have. Don't have to buy anything extra. Love my Apple and OX X.
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| jay |
quote:
Originally posted by Sportymonk
I just use my Apple Powerbook. Mac OX X has been able to do this for years. Comes standard.
Just click Print and then the PDF icon on the print menu and it saves it as a PDF file. Works in any application you have. Don't have to buy anything extra. Love my Apple and OX X.
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Me too, and in my first post it took every bit of will to not type "Buy a Mac!":D |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by jay
Me too, and in my first post it took every bit of will to not type "Buy a Mac!":D
Its only built in because Apple bought it for you. |
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| jay |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Its only built in because Apple bought it for you.
And I'm darn happy about it!:p |
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| macphanatic |
| I may be wrong on this, but I don't think Apple had to buy anything to print to pdf. It's a file format. They made their own print driver that creates a file format. Sure is nice to have the functionality built in without having to buy another piece of software. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by macphanatic
I may be wrong on this, but I don't think Apple had to buy anything to print to pdf. It's a file format. They made their own print driver that creates a file format. Sure is nice to have the functionality built in without having to buy another piece of software.
So they paid their developers to write it and then sold it to you.
My point is The whole, "MAC is better because it is included" argument is ridiculous. |
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| krygny |
quote:
Originally posted by Sportymonk
I just use my Apple Powerbook. Mac OX X has been able to do this for years. Comes standard.
Just click Print and then the PDF icon on the print menu and it saves it as a PDF file. Works in any application you have. Don't have to buy anything extra. Love my Apple and OX X.
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That's basically all PDF Creator is, just a print driver. But you can do some other stuff like combine and split documents. Good help documentation too. I have it on all my computers. |
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| krygny |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
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My point is The whole, "MAC is better because it is included" argument is ridiculous.
I agree. Windows isn't bad once you've disabled all the unnecessary and insecure services. |
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| Sportymonk |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
So they paid their developers to write it and then sold it to you.
My point is The whole, "MAC is better because it is included" argument is ridiculous.
But it IS BETTER, not just because it is included but because it is a well integrated machine. That is another reason I went Apple, I was tired of so many programs that conflicted with the OS or with each other or with the cat next door.
I don't want this to turn into another war between Macs and PCs. Macs aren't for everybody. I wouldn't recommend one to my father-in-law but for most mainstream people they are a better solution as they are easier to use and suffer fewer headaches. For the professional photographer/movie person, Apple has a well documented history of being the machine and OS of choice. |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by Sportymonk
But it IS BETTER, not just because it is included but because it is a well integrated machine. That is another reason I went Apple, I was tired of so many programs that conflicted with the OS or with each other or with the cat next door.
I don't want this to turn into another war between Macs and PCs. Macs aren't for everybody. I wouldn't recommend one to my father-in-law but for most mainstream people they are a better solution as they are easier to use and suffer fewer headaches. For the professional photographer/movie person, Apple has a well documented history of being the machine and OS of choice.
Yes, it is easy to not have conflicts when the number of applications is kept so small.
All MS would have to do is put in place a rigerious certification program, and restrict the applications to what about 5% of the market needs and they would be the same or better. |
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| jay |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Yes, it is easy to not have conflicts when the number of applications is kept so small.
All MS would have to do is put in place a rigerious certification program, and restrict the applications to what about 5% of the market needs and they would be the same or better.
Get back in the political threads; we do't need your pissng and moaning in this thread, too!:rolleyes: |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by jay
Get back in the political threads; we do't need your pissng and moaning in this thread, too!:rolleyes:
What?
I request to silence the opposition?
Not what I would expect from a Mac using, Hybrid driving, liberal! :D :D :D |
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| Sportymonk |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Yes, it is easy to not have conflicts when the number of applications is kept so small.
All MS would have to do is put in place a rigorous certification program, and restrict the applications to what about 5% of the market needs and they would be the same or better.
I beg to differ. Other than two religious programs, I don't have a problem with applications on Apple. In fact, my current problem is the laptop Dell sent to my wife to replace the POS she had. Bad news, the new one came with Vista and now I have a truckload of things that won't install. Adobe 6 or 7 won't install but Adobe says that rather than providing a fix, they will be glad to sell me Adobe 8. Grr.
One thing to consider is that Apple ensures that things work properly on the OS. MS has a million applications because you have to look through a million to find the few that work without conflicts.
Seriously, the quality of what is available for OS X provides a all one needs such has Final Cut Pro.
Maybe things would be better for MS DOS/Win/Vista if that implemented your idea. "... MS would have to do is put in place a rigorous certification program, ... " maybe then they would work better.
"and restrict the applications to what about 5% of the market needs and they would be the same or better: 5 % of the market doesn't equate to 5% of the needs. As I said, what they provide meets a high level of needs. |
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| jay |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
What?
I request to silence the opposition?
Not what I would expect from a Mac using, Hybrid driving, liberal! :D :D :D
I'm tired of the message and the attitude of the messenger.:cool: |
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| Sportymonk |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Not what I would expect from a Mac using, Hybrid driving, liberal! :D :D :D
Hey Jay, Who says N_Jay can't say something nice. Look what he said about you, Mac user, hybrid driving (cares about the environment), and liberal (progressive modern intelligent thinker). Wish somebody would call me a Mac using liberal!:p |
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| macphanatic |
It's amazing that the people that bash Apple have never used them. Then look at all of the writers that actually tried a Mac and decided not to go back to Windows. Anyone who still thinks that there aren't enough programs available for the Mac obviously haven't taken any time to research it. Roxio's DVD/CD burning program for the Mac works better and has more features than the Windows version. MS Office actually works better on the Mac than on Windows, and used to be more cutting edge than the Windows version.
Let's not forget that several of the new Macs actually run windows better than comparable PC's from well known vendors - testing done by a leading Windows leaning publication. And Mac users tend to not have to upgrade every few years because their machine no longer performs well or barely runs (look at the customer service ratings for Apple vs industry, as well as repair records). |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by irq88
Microsoft provides “Save as PDF” as a separate download.
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...&displaylang=en
Probably can't be included for fear if another Anti-competition law suit.:rolleyes:
Funny thing is the first time I heard MACs were better they have about 5% share.
Now about 20 years later they seem to have stagnated a little bit. |
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| jay |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
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Funny thing is the first time I heard MACs were better they have about 5% share.
Now about 20 years later they seem to have stagnated a little bit.
It appears you haven't been paying enough attention. :rolleyes: Besides, this is just another of those Internet discussions of questionable value, so save your effort and stop encouraging the incorrigible.:D |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by jay
It appears you haven't been paying enough attention.
What did I miss? |
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| jay |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
What did I miss?
The upturn in market share, customer satisfaction, etc. etc. Come on, N_Jay, get your head outta your ... oooops.:p You're in a technical field. You see what's happening. :1:
EDIT: not to mention stock price!!:D
EDIT: Just go to a mall in any area that has both an Apple Store and a Sony Style store. At all hours of the day, the Apple Store is "mobbed." At any hour of the day, there are 3 people in a Sony Style store; a security guard and two sales reps.:p
EDIT: Seems you either love or hate. There's no Mr. Spock logic, N_Jay, so give up and get out. :p
EDIT: Here's the obligatory "kicked your butt with logic" Smileys. :p
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EDIT: Message - Go play your game elsewhere N_Jay. This Forum's wise to it. :p |
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| krygny |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Probably can't be included for fear if another Anti-competition law suit.:rolleyes:
Zero risk of that. PDF is an open standard. There must be some other "good reason". :rolleyes:
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Funny thing is the first time I heard MACs were better they have about 5% share.
Now about 20 years later they seem to have stagnated a little bit.
If market share mattered, I'd be driving a GM. |
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| macphanatic |
Apple is the 4th or 5th largest computer maker in the world. And, its a Mac not MAC (which is an ethernet address).
The reason that there are so many conflicts in Windows is that M$ won't give access to certain API's and other critical programming information to enable programmers to properly code. Just look at what they are trying to do with the Open Doc format. Let's not forget that Michael Dell approached Apple to try to license the OS for Dell computers. |
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| jay |
We can debate this ad infinitum, and take it back to an Apple thread, and kick the haters around. :p
The important thing for this thread is whether or nor rocky got what he needed. rocky, did you solve your problem?:confused: |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by krygny
Zero risk of that. PDF is an open standard. There must be some other "good reason". :rolleyes:
Then can you explain the Internet Explorer law suit?
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Originally posted by krygny
If market share mattered, I'd be driving a GM.
Why? (Hint: Track Apple market share and GM market share direction) |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by jay
The upturn in market share, customer satisfaction, etc. etc. Come on, N_Jay, get your head outta your ... oooops.:p You're in a technical field. You see what's happening. :1:
Yep, maybe in another 20 years Apple will crack 10%. :cool: :D |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by jay
We can debate this ad infinitum, and take it back to an Apple thread, and kick the haters around. :p
The important thing for this thread is whether or nor rocky got what he needed. rocky, did you solve your problem?:confused:
Well put.
Why do Apple people have to treat computer like they are in a cult? |
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| jay |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Well put.
Why do Apple people have to treat computer like they are in a cult?
Because it just works! How many times do you have to hear that! Life's not like you think it should be, N_Jay. Get over it. Don't tell us your were one of the Motorola engineers that designed the cell phone interface from hell, and can't admit it, even to your own family. :p
Why are Pilot owners such a cult?
Why is N_Jay such a dipstick? :p
I think I have an easier time answering the first question. :D |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by jay
Because it just works! How many times do you have to hear that! Life's not like you think it should be, N_Jay. Get over it. Don't tell us your were one of the Motorola engineers that designed the cell phone interface from hell, and can't admit it, even to your own family. :p
Why are Pilot owners such a cult?
Why is N_jay such a dipstick? :p
I think I have an easier time answering the first question. :D
Well, I didn't hit the quote button fast enough to get your original response before you added more stupid insults.
We are a bit cultish here, but not as bad a Apple people. |
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| krygny |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Then can you explain the Internet Explorer law suit?
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I don't know what you're talking about or what it has to do with PDF. |
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| bobzz |
My daughter who is a Graphic designer just bought a Windows machine.
She has used both and is proficient on either. She says a Mac ties her down. To much proprietary software. That being said I think Macs are cool even though I Don't own one. :) |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by krygny
Not as long as their PDF implementation is not predatory or exclusionary.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace_and_extend
The point is that it "destroys the market" for add in software.
I think MS has been bashed on this point in the past. |
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