| shafi's Pilot |
| CAn somebody please tell me possibilities as to why I am getting 11 MPG city???? I dont drive aggressive... is this even possible on an 03 ex-l??? This is the reason Y i DIDNT buy a Hummer! |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by shafi's Pilot
CAn somebody please tell me possibilities as to why I am getting 11 MPG city???? I dont drive aggressive... is this even possible on an 03 ex-l??? This is the reason Y i DIDNT buy a Hummer!
Two questions.
1) Exactly what do you call "city driving"?
2) Exactly how do you measure your MPG? |
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| jl_ss |
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Originally posted by shafi's Pilot
CAn somebody please tell me possibilities as to why I am getting 11 MPG city???? I dont drive aggressive... is this even possible on an 03 ex-l??? This is the reason Y i DIDNT buy a Hummer!
Do you live in a hilly area? |
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| shafi's Pilot |
| well i live in brooklyn, NY, so def no hills and city driving as in the rural areas and i measure my MPG by dividing mileage by how many gallons were used, so i basically fill up a new tank, set my trip A odometer to 0 and start driving, at my next fill up, i see how many gallons are filled, lets use 10 for example, and i see that i drove 118 miles within this fill up and the last, so i 118/10= 11 MPG RIGHT??? WTH is going on here??? PLZ HELP, the gas pump is SQUEEZING my wallet dry!! |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by shafi's Pilot
well i live in brooklyn, NY, so def no hills and city driving as in the rural areas and i measure my MPG by dividing mileage by how many gallons were used, so i basically fill up a new tank, set my trip A odometer to 0 and start driving, at my next fill up, i see how many gallons are filled, lets use 10 for example, and i see that i drove 118 miles within this fill up and the last, so i 118/10= 11 MPG RIGHT??? WTH is going on here??? PLZ HELP, the gas pump is SQUEEZING my wallet dry!!
1) You will find that tank to tank there is a good bit of variability.
To help average this out you should check at least three tanks in a row.
2) Your math shows 11.8 MPG, so you are much closer to 12 than to 11.
3) NY area driving is usually worse than "city" as defined by the EPA. |
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| BigDozer66 |
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Originally posted by shafi's Pilot
well i live in brooklyn, NY, so def no hills and city driving as in the rural areas and i measure my MPG by dividing mileage by how many gallons were used, so i basically fill up a new tank, set my trip A odometer to 0 and start driving, at my next fill up, i see how many gallons are filled, lets use 10 for example, and i see that i drove 118 miles within this fill up and the last, so i 118/10= 11 MPG RIGHT??? WTH is going on here??? PLZ HELP, the gas pump is SQUEEZING my wallet dry!!
I have noticed over the years that when I fill up with a 1/2 - 3/4 full tank that my MPG is lower than if I let the tank get to 1/4.
We just had a short 120 mile round trip camping trip in ours and I filled it up when we got back. Our gas mileage was 18.x which is 3 MPG less than our everyday city driving average.:(
It is still 3-4 MPG better than what our Explorer would have gotten in the same situation. :D
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by BigDozer66
I have noticed over the years that when I fill up with a 1/2 - 3/4 full tank that my MPG is lower than if I let the tank get to 1/4.
We just had a short 120 mile round trip camping trip in ours and I filled it up when we got back. Our gas mileage was 18.x which is 3 MPG less than our everyday city driving average.:(
It is still 3-4 MPG better than what our Explorer would have gotten in the same situation. :D
BigDozer66
AND a single tank fill up can be 1 or 2 MPG off. |
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| 5Gs |
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Originally posted by N_Jay
1) You will find that tank to tank there is a good bit of variability.
To help average this out you should check at least three tanks in a row.
2) Your math shows 11.8 MPG, so you are much closer to 12 than to 11.
3) NY area driving is usually worse than "city" as defined by the EPA.
is it even possible to get as high as 11mpg driving in manhattan during the work day? :D |
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| BigDozer66 |
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Originally posted by 5Gs
is it even possible to get as high as 11mpg driving in manhattan during the work day? :D
It would be like San Fran with the hills!;)
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| shafi's Pilot |
| I want EPA mileage estimates for NYC driving...not FLORIDA.... if im buying a car in NYC then y would they tell me anything other than NYC mileage....i swear its all corrupt.... i did about 6 more checks on the mileage...not one was higher than 13..... and tht is REALLY disappointing! and I havent even pushed the car hard! LOL |
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| BigDozer66 |
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Originally posted by shafi's Pilot
I want EPA mileage estimates for NYC driving...not FLORIDA.... if im buying a car in NYC then y would they tell me anything other than NYC mileage....i swear its all corrupt.... i did about 6 more checks on the mileage...not one was higher than 13..... and tht is REALLY disappointing! and I havent even pushed the car hard! LOL
I have always wondered about the estimates.
Now they are factoring in things like A/C usage and other variables.
Here in the great State of Texas I use my A/C probably 10 months out of the year. Why would the A/C not be included in the estimate?:rolleyes:
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by shafi's Pilot
I want EPA mileage estimates for NYC driving...not FLORIDA.... if im buying a car in NYC then y would they tell me anything other than NYC mileage....i swear its all corrupt.... i did about 6 more checks on the mileage...not one was higher than 13..... and tht is REALLY disappointing! and I havent even pushed the car hard! LOL
Have you tracked 3 to 5 SEQUENTIAL tanks of gas yet?
I would guess that NYC would be a few MPG worse than the EPA c"city" rating. |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by shafi's Pilot
I want EPA mileage estimates for NYC driving...not FLORIDA.... if im buying a car in NYC then y would they tell me anything other than NYC mileage....i swear its all corrupt....
So you want the EPA to do 50 sets by state?:eek: :rolleyes: :eek:
Its an estimate for comparison..Nothing more, nothing less! |
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| 5Gs |
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Originally posted by N_Jay
So you want the EPA to do 50 sets by state?:eek: :rolleyes: :eek:
Its an estimate for comparison..Nothing more, nothing less!
even if done by states, that still wouldn't cover everyone. especially in our state, where we have everything from the (relatively) flat central valley to the hills of san francisco to the high altitude of lake tahoe. |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by 5Gs
even if done by states, that still wouldn't cover everyone. especially in our state, where we have everything from the (relatively) flat central valley to the hills of san francisco to the high altitude of lake tahoe.
LOL< Yes, I was being a bit facetious to make my point. |
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| Dane |
I get 15 - 16, driving around town, and about 19 or so on long freeway trips. The worst I had was 13. And, I have a larger than stock size wheel/tire setup; it was a tiny bit better on the stock wheel/tire setup. I use my AC most of the time. I get hot easily
For city driving, if you floor it a lot, it's like taking the lid off a 64 oz coke and guzzling it. Also, make sure your tire pressure is right, and keep up with the maintenance. A decent quality gas helps also. I was using a cheap gas brand in a Maxima (don't have the car any longer), and it was getting 19, down from 25. When I changed back to a decent brand, it went back up to 25. |
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| Nathan_P |
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Originally posted by Dane
A decent quality gas helps also.
I don't notice any difference in mileage on mine due to gasoline brand or octane rating. It is always consistent within a few MPG which can always be attributed to more/less city driving than usual. |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by Nathan_P
I don't notice any difference in mileage on mine due to gasoline brand or octane rating. It is always consistent within a few MPG which can always be attributed to more/less city driving than usual.
It is not directly related to brand or octane, but it is related to formulation which can be related to brand, octane, region, and/or season. |
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| kramerd1506 |
Hi all!
Don't forget that gas is heavy - really heavy. If you drive till your tank is nearly empty before filling up you will be driving at a lighter weight for more miles due to the gas being consumed, than if you keep filling up at 1/2 tank. You will get better milage when lighter. Not a big difference, but the little things can add up. |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by kramerd1506
Hi all!
Don't forget that gas is heavy - really heavy. If you drive till your tank is nearly empty before filling up you will be driving at a lighter weight for more miles due to the gas being consumed, than if you keep filling up at 1/2 tank. You will get better milage when lighter. Not a big difference, but the little things can add up.
20 gallons at 7 lb a gallon, 140 LB.
Not too big a deal.
Probably accessories like roof racks, fender flares, running boards, etc. are as big a weight hit and have aerodynamic effects also. |
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| slicknickns |
I usually go with 87 octane, the C grade stuff. But last time I filled up (several days ago, at least) and before that, (like two or three days before last time) I used 89 Octane.
I've got about half a tank left, give or take. I have done solely city driving for the past 10 days-2 weeks. My A odometer says about 150 miles or so driven on it. The last time I reset it I had about 3/4 of a tank.
I think I can get pretty good gas mileage. Usually 20 to the gallon. |
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| mazzy72 |
| First off, all these nifty little secrets to save on gas consumption sound great... but they really don't affect your gas mileage that drastically, unless you become the most anal driver out there. I abuse the heck out of my pilot (70 miles a week on rough, hilly, unpaved road), and see, maybe a 10 to 20 mile difference between my city and highway mileage, which really isn't much. I can imagine any vehicle is exposed to lots of road salt in New York, and I'm sure the 03 Pilot in question has a few miles on it... so I'd suggest an inspection of the before catalytic converter O2 sensor. A dirty O2 sensor will affect your gas mileage dramatically. Someone tell me I'm wrong... I dare you! |
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| mazzy72 |
04 Pilot, Sage Brush, 66,000 miles
Spent 2 hours under 3 feet of water in December 2006... $700 in DIY repairs, runs like a champ. |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by mazzy72
First off, all these nifty little secrets to save on gas consumption sound great... but they really don't affect your gas mileage that drastically, unless you become the most anal driver out there. I abuse the heck out of my pilot (70 miles a week on rough, hilly, unpaved road), and see, maybe a 10 to 20 mile difference between my city and highway mileage, which really isn't much. I can imagine any vehicle is exposed to lots of road salt in New York, and I'm sure the 03 Pilot in question has a few miles on it... so I'd suggest an inspection of the before catalytic converter O2 sensor. A dirty O2 sensor will affect your gas mileage dramatically. Someone tell me I'm wrong... I dare you!
I agree (wostly).
You can get noticable impressionists with some driving changes, and other changes require "anal" behavior.
As for the O2 sensor, if it is bad, you will get bad mileage, but it seems in most cars today, you will get a check engine light also.
I would not expect changing it before the light comes on to give any significant benefit. |
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| mazzy72 |
| You typically will not get a check engine light until the sensor fails. In the mean time, as with dirty oil filters, fuel filters, air filters, the O2 sensor may cause perormance issues on the vehicle. If you know anybody with any mechanical know-how, it wouldn't hurt to have them pull it off and remove any build up or debris that may have collected up in there. |
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| ewissam |
I think to be sure that your pilot is fine ,try do the folllowing :
Take your car to dealer and ask them to connect the laptop to the ODB2 port (under the dash) , the special software will analyze your car and print for you an advance report about and including emmitions , Fuel , O2 etc... sensors...readings ...etc...
by that you will be sure 100 % that your engin is fine or not or need fine tune or you should change your driving style.
Remember i used to get 10 to 11 MPG in city drive with 8 traffic signals and for 6 KM only daily.
Pilot is very sensitive to style of driving and stop-and-go driving.
Hope the above help
Wissam
Beirut City -Lebanon |
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