| Juice916 |
| what type of gas (regular, super, etc) do you guys use on your pilot? |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by Juice916
what type of gas (regular, super, etc) do you guys use on your pilot?
The kind it needs, the kind they tell you.
REGULAR |
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| CMasten |
in 3 years I have only used Regular, never had a ping. I know some folks use super when they tow their boats, but I dont tow.
Its an easy beast to keep happy :) |
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| xGS |
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Originally posted by Juice916
what type of gas (regular, super, etc) do you guys use on your pilot?
More important than which grade is which brand: [http://www.toptiergas.com/retailers.html]. |
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| iivtecracerii |
| regular, at the cheapest station (usually costco). |
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| rlapid |
| regular 87, always from chevron or shell. |
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| NorCO |
| In Colorado, our regular is 85 octane. I assume this will be sufficient for the Pilot? |
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| Juice916 |
| the reason i had asked is because when i first picked it up from the dealer, it took two days of driving to go down a 1/4 of a tank. I filled it up with regular a week later at night, went out to a bar. When i got home i was down a 1/4 of a tank in a couple of hours compared to two days. |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by Juice916
the reason i had asked is because when i first picked it up from the dealer, it took two days of driving to go down a 1/4 of a tank. I filled it up with regular a week later at night, went out to a bar. When i got home i was down a 1/4 of a tank in a couple of hours compared to two days.
Sounds like someone at the bar siphoned you. |
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| evarsallona |
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Originally posted by Juice916
what type of gas (regular, super, etc) do you guys use on your pilot?
Only chevron regular 87 octane. |
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| tim.s |
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Originally posted by N_Jay
Sounds like someone at the bar siphoned you.
Yeah or the first fillup didn't get it as full as when it left the Dealer.
Either way, it's easy to burn 5 gallons of fuel in a couple hours. You'd only have to drive 75 or 85 miles at a leisurely 40mph. I problably burn 3.5 gallons per day just commuting for work.
(I sense an mpg discussion coming. ;)) |
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| rlapid |
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Originally posted by NorCO
In Colorado, our regular is 85 octane. I assume this will be sufficient for the Pilot?
iirc, my owner's manual says you must use 87 octane or higher. |
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| charly |
I see that everyone has their own gasoline brand, for their pilot.
But what do you guys tell me about "VALERO" since i bought my pilot i've been using the midgrade and my pilot, it's been happy since then. specially when i press the pedal to the metal...:2: |
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| colorider |
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Originally posted by NorCO
In Colorado, our regular is 85 octane. I assume this will be sufficient for the Pilot?
Absolutely!!!
Where are you at in Northern Colorado? I'm in Loveland and I'll :awais: if I see you!!!
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| colorider |
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Originally posted by Juice916
I filled it up with regular a week later at night, went out to a bar. When i got home i was down a 1/4 of a tank in a couple of hours compared to two days.
I'd stay away from that bar if I were you!!!!! :D |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by charly
I see that everyone has their own gasoline brand, for their pilot.
But what do you guys tell me about "VALERO" since i bought my pilot i've been using the midgrade and my pilot, it's been happy since then. specially when i press the pedal to the metal...:2:
Regular should be fine.
You should not need "mid-grade". |
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| evarsallona |
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Originally posted by Juice916
I filled it up with regular a week later at night, went out to a bar. When i got home i was down a 1/4 of a tank in a couple of hours compared to two days.
How many bars did you end up going to and how far out of your way did you go to drop off your friend ? :roadtrip: |
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| Juice916 |
| i actually went to my friends house where we met up then drove to the bar, them home. I will have to mapqest it to see how many miles. I have to wait until i get home. |
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| evarsallona |
quote:
Originally posted by Juice916
I filled it up with regular a week later at night, went out to a bar. When i got home i was down a 1/4 of a tank in a couple of hours compared to two days.
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Originally posted by Juice916
i actually went to my friends house where we met up then drove to the bar, them home. I will have to mapqest it to see how many miles. I have to wait until i get home.
The mystery of the missing gas revealed and the true story comes out :claphead: |
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| Sportymonk |
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Originally posted by evarsallona
Only chevron regular 87 octane.
Wish we had Chevron in this area of the country. North Carolina. I use regular Shell or BP. |
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| evarsallona |
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Originally posted by Sportymonk
Wish we had Chevron in this area of the country. North Carolina. I use regular Shell or BP.
I know you have Texaco in North Carolina, same gas and company |
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| humanoid |
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Originally posted by evarsallona
I know you have Texaco in North Carolina, same gas and company
True, but they may put different additives in the gas. |
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| evarsallona |
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Originally posted by humanoid
True, but they may put different additives in the gas.
Thank you for that good point, I never thought about that before
I have never lived any where else but California , I do drive to las Vegas but they have chevron stations so I never give it any thought and if I do go anywhere else it’s by plane and a local rental car and never care or thought about that.
Any one remember the Standard stations |
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| Sportymonk |
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Originally posted by evarsallona
Thank you for that good point, I never thought about that before
I have never lived any where else but California , I do drive to las Vegas but they have chevron stations so I never give it any thought and if I do go anywhere else it’s by plane and a local rental car and never care or thought about that.
Any one remember the Standard stations
Did a search for Texaco stations and there is one in rocky Mount and four in the Raleigh area with some others in Cary, Durham, and other outlying areas. No wonder I don't see them often. http://web.sa.mapquest.com/texaco/a...27604&x=81&y=12
BTW do you remember the Pure Stations (Bir white circle with blue letters PURE)? Saw a sign the other day. And how about Sinclair with the dinosaur? Been a long time since seeing one of those. |
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| Juice916 |
quote:
Originally posted by evarsallona
quote:
Originally posted by Juice916
I filled it up with regular a week later at night, went out to a bar. When i got home i was down a 1/4 of a tank in a couple of hours compared to two days.
The mystery of the missing gas revealed and the true story comes out :claphead:
i calculated the mileage and it was 55 miles total trip. |
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| NorCO |
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Originally posted by colorider
Absolutely!!!
Where are you at in Northern Colorado? I'm in Loveland and I'll :awais: if I see you!!!
:)
Great, we live out in Severance. I'll :awais: if I see you!
Also, we filled our tank with 85 octane for the first time yesterday. Running fine. |
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| HONDAMANBAKER |
| I am using Shell V-Ppwer (93 Octane) and Lucas OIls fuel additive at every fill up and I am getting 20 city 24-25 Highway my goal by the end of spring is to be up to 30mpg |
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| Nathan_P |
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Originally posted by HONDAMANBAKER
I am using Shell V-Ppwer (93 Octane) and Lucas OIls fuel additive at every fill up and I am getting 20 city 24-25 Highway my goal by the end of spring is to be up to 30mpg
Ummm...yeah, good luck w/ that. |
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| HONDAMANBAKER |
if I had account quarter for everytime I heard that :)
if I get there I just might share my ideas :)
I did however get my accord to 38 mpg sometimes 39.5 on the highway |
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| spiccolli |
The recommended gasoline for most cars is 87 octane. One misconception is that higher octane gasoline contains more cleaning additives. All octane grades of all brands of gasoline contain engine cleaning detergent additives. In fact, using a gasoline with too high of an octane rating may cause damage to your emissions system.
In internal combustion engines, the compressed gasoline-air mixtures have a tendency to ignite prematurely rather than burn smoothly. This creates engine knock.
The octane number of gasoline is a measure of its resistance to knock. The octane number is determined by comparing the characteristics of a gasoline to isooctane (2,2,4-trimethylpentane) and heptane.
Some high performance engines benefit from use of high octane. For other engines, using a fuel with a higher octane rating than the vehicle requires sends unburned fuel into the emissions system and catalytic converter. This puts unecessary stress on the emissions system.
The quality of gasoline and the additive package usually affect the rate of engine wear more than the octane rating. Basically what this means is that it matters more where you buy your gas than which grade you purchase. |
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| xGS |
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Originally posted by spiccolli
The recommended gasoline for most cars is 87 octane. One misconception is that higher octane gasoline contains more cleaning additives. All octane grades of all brands of gasoline contain engine cleaning detergent additives.
1) Some brands do put more cleaning additives in their premium octane level gas.
2) Do "all octane grades of all brands of gasoline" contain a sufficent amount of engine cleaning detergent additives? |
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| rlapid |
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Originally posted by xGS
1) Some brands do put more cleaning additives in their premium octane level gas.
2) Do "all octane grades of all brands of gasoline" contain a sufficent amount of engine cleaning detergent additives?
1) which brands?
2) i'm sure not all brands contain a sufficient amount of additives. that's why we have Top Tier ratings. |
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| xGS |
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Originally posted by rlapid
1) which brands?
Shell, for one.
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2) i'm sure not all brands contain a sufficient amount of additives. that's why we have Top Tier ratings.
Yes, but, we're waiting to see if spiccolli completed the reading assignment. |
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| spiccolli |
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Originally posted by rlapid
2) i'm sure not all brands contain a sufficient amount of additives. that's why we have Top Tier ratings.
exactly |
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| youbetcha |
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Originally posted by xGS
Shell, for one.
I've always used Shell and had good luck with that brand. |
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| danpilot |
I've used regular in my 2005 Pilot since it was new and never had a problem. I've used Shell, Chevron, Sunoco, Liberty and others and never noticed much of a difference in performance or mileage.
But the first post about the gas gauge reminds me of something. The gas gauge is erratic on my Pilot. It will stay between 1/2 and 3/4 for the longest time, then suddenly (or farily suddenly) drop to below 1/4 and then after a short while the gas warning light will come on. The one consistent thing is to keep an eye on the trip odometer, which I reset after each fill-up. When it starts getting near 300 or 325 miles, you know you are low on gas, regardless of where the gauge reads.
Does anyone else have this erratic/variable gas gauge? :confused: |
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| youbetcha |
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Originally posted by danpilot
I've used regular in my 2005 Pilot since it was new and never had a problem. I've used Shell, Chevron, Sunoco, Liberty and others and never noticed much of a difference in performance or mileage.
But the first post about the gas gauge reminds me of something. The gas gauge is erratic on my Pilot. It will stay between 1/2 and 3/4 for the longest time, then suddenly (or farily suddenly) drop to below 1/4 and then after a short while the gas warning light will come on. The one consistent thing is to keep an eye on the trip odometer, which I reset after each fill-up. When it starts getting near 300 or 325 miles, you know you are low on gas, regardless of where the gauge reads.
Does anyone else have this erratic/variable gas gauge? :confused:
Yes, this is the way all gas gauges have been designed, since the 1950s. :D |
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| evarsallona |
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Originally posted by youbetcha
Yes, this is the way all gas gauges have been designed, since the 1950s. :D
Heres a interesting theory
Could it have anything to do with the design shape of the tank space, with more gas volume at top and less gas volume at the bottom of the tank? |
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| tim.s |
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Originally posted by danpilot
...But the first post about the gas gauge reminds me of something. The gas gauge is erratic on my Pilot. It will stay between 1/2 and 3/4 for the longest time, then suddenly (or farily suddenly) drop to below 1/4 and then after a short while the gas warning light will come on. The one consistent thing is to keep an eye on the trip odometer, which I reset after each fill-up. When it starts getting near 300 or 325 miles, you know you are low on gas, regardless of where the gauge reads...
It's mostly perceptual. Above 1/2 tank you're relaxed and don't worry about refilling so you drive contently for the first 180 miles.
Then sometime after you get below 1/2 tank, you start to think about filling up and wondering how long you can wait. You might get another 140 miles below 1/2 tank before the light comes on, but that seems like a lot less driving than the first 1/2 tank (180 miles).
The light comes on and you actually have another 30+ miles you could drive. But who in their right mind would push it to the final drop?
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| youbetcha |
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Originally posted by tim.s
It's mostly perceptual. Above 1/2 tank you're relaxed and don't worry about refilling so you drive contently for the first 180 miles.
Then sometime after you get below 1/2 tank, you start to think about filling up and wondering how long you can wait. You might get another 140 miles below 1/2 tank before the light comes on, but that seems like a lot less driving than the first 1/2 tank (180 miles).
The light comes on and you actually have another 30+ miles you could drive. But who in their right mind would push it to the final drop?
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Maybe true to some extent, but I've tried measuring this, even to rough approximations, and I gave up. I had another car with a "distance to empty" computer and it was no less perplexing. Of course, short-term gas mileage can vary quite a bit, even on different sections of highway at the same speed.
Maybe it has to do with the way the gauge is dampened; perhaps to the gauge, the fuel level looks "lower" more of the time if the gas has more room to slosh around in the tank or maybe as it was suggested before, it is the tank shape (or maybe the way the sensor is hinged makes the movement faster or slower as it the sensor moves).
But you would think they could just engineer the gauge to give the right % tank left. |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by youbetcha
Maybe true to some extent, but I've tried measuring this, even to rough approximations, and I gave up. I had another car with a "distance to empty" computer and it was no less perplexing. Of course, short-term gas mileage can vary quite a bit, even on different sections of highway at the same speed.
Maybe it has to do with the way the gauge is dampened; perhaps to the gauge, the fuel level looks "lower" more of the time if the gas has more room to slosh around in the tank or maybe as it was suggested before, it is the tank shape (or maybe the way the sensor is hinged makes the movement faster or slower as it the sensor moves).
But you would think they could just engineer the gauge to give the right % tank left.
I have heard this complaint many times, but on both my Hondas, the gauge is very even from marking to marking. I have measured this during multi-tank highway drives.
The fact that there is an amount of gas above the "F" mark, and most people never drive to the "E" mark, certainly can make the top half seem much larder than the bottom half. |
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| evarsallona |
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Originally posted by N_Jay
I have heard this complaint many times, but on both my Hondas, the gauge is very even from marking to marking. I have measured this during multi-tank highway drives.
The fact that there is an amount of gas above the "F" mark, and most people never drive to the "E" mark, certainly can make the top half seem much larder than the bottom half.
Hi N jay
I think your explanation has more merit about the full and empty theorie that explains it. No true top leval and no true bottom leval |
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| youbetcha |
| Funny thing in comparison, we know how much gas we put in the tank at the last fill-up, to the accuracy of a thousandth of a gallon. |
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| HONDAMANBAKER |
as we all know the Acura uses a very similiar engine in the MDX. The reason that vehicle is premium only and our pilots are not is simply be cause the MDX has received some more poneys out of the 3.5 liter using higher compression. the higher the compression the higher the octane you need.
If you use low octane in a engine with high compression it can start acting like a diesel and ignitinig the fuel during the compression stroke. If this happens then the plug will fire int a cylinder with no fuel that is very bad for the engine.
Our Pilots are 10:0:1 (if the engine is in good shape) and I beleive the acura is 11:0:1 so either way premium fuel is a good way to make sure the computer does not retard the timing of the engine so that you dont get pinging or knocking. In no way am I saying that the engine will fail becasue you dont use high octane fuel. What I am saying is just because honda says it can operate on 87 octane does not mean that thats the best thing for it. Honda would start to loose cusotmers if they advertised all of there cars both Honda and Acura as premium only cars :) |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by youbetcha
Funny thing in comparison, we know how much gas we put in the tank at the last fill-up, to the accuracy of a thousandth of a gallon.
But, we don't know how much was left, or if we filled it to the same point as we started, so that number, even if extremely accurate is meaningless without a lot of other data that is not as accurate. |
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| tim.s |
So I guess to be sure, someone needs to drain their tank dry, fill it with a predefined volume, and then drive until it is dry again. Repeat.
Any volunteers?
Oh, but then their speedometer could be off as much as ±3% and mistating the miles traveled, so we still wouldn't know. ;)
BTW, I saw Mythbuster do what I described above so that they could compare the change in MPG with the tailgate up and the tailgate down on a pickup. |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by tim.s
So I guess to be sure, someone needs to drain their tank dry, fill it with a predefined volume, and then drive until it is dry again. Repeat.
Any volunteers?
Oh, but then their speedometer could be off as much as ±3% and mistating the miles traveled, so we still wouldn't know. ;)
BTW, I saw Mythbuster do what I described above so that they could compare the change in MPG with the tailgate up and the tailgate down on a pickup.
You can get "accurate enough" measurements by filling up in a simple consistent manner. (e.g. fully inserted nossel, off at first click), measuring fuel used over 3 consecutive talk-fulls. |
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| evarsallona |
Plus must be the except same accurate data and driving conditions as example
Time
Roads
Tires
Vehicle
Weight
Gas
Driver
Weather
Note: who cares just enjoy driving your Pilot |
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