| bentley98 |
Took the Pilot for a tire rotation to a near by tire shop (2005 Ex on stock Good years, with less then 40K miles).
Rear tires have much more tread than the front ones but the tire is kind of bulged on the riding surface on one side than the other. The tread wear seems to be even on the surface but one side is kind of raised up. When you feel the tires you can see the "slope" from inner side to outer side.
They recommended not doing a tire rotation and told me that this could be a manufacturing defect and taking to dealer??
Any one had similar experience? thanks |
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| whizmo |
It all depends on how much. If you haven't rotated your tires at all, you're generally going to get some uneven wear of some sort, especially if you're not good about maintaining tire pressures or if you carry heavy loads. Running rear loads near the max (or towing) will often result in some permanent chamber that tends to wear the inside edge more than the outer.
Ulikely it is alignment as there is nothing to align in the back. It might be a defect, but again, some asymmetric wear is within normal tolerances. And 40K from the OEM tires is probably getting to the point where the tread is pretty thin - once the wear bar are close to showing, all bets are off for even tire wear.
- Mark |
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| bentley98 |
thanks.... Funny thing is there is LOTS of tread left on the rear not even close to tread wear bar. Its not that either inner or outer side is worn off its like a slope from one edge to other with lots of tread remaining
For the front tires, almost reaching the tread wear bar and the wear is uniformal |
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| jdeanski |
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Originally posted by bentley98
thanks.... Funny thing is there is LOTS of tread left on the rear not even close to tread wear bar.
Not really a funny thing. The Pilot is really a front wheel driver the majority of the time even if it has AWD. If the tires have never been rotated the front wear doesn't supprise me at all. |
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| colorider |
| What kind of driving do you normally do? Highway or city? Mountain curves? Where do you live (you need to add your location to your profile). At what mileage points were the tires rotated in the past? |
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| rocky |
Part of me wantrs to see if this is visible :needpics:
Tires wear oddly when either tires are under or over inflated or the alignment is out. |
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| krygny |
I don't mean to be dismissive or elitist, but you got 40K mi. out of your OEM Goodyears and that's basically all their worth. (I got 33K out of mine before one got a flat that couldn't be repaired.)
Now put a set of tires on your Pilot that it was meant to have. Get a 4-wheel alignment and put on a set of Michelin Cross Terrrains or Goodyear Fortera Triple-Treds (which I personally recommend).
You'll be much happier. |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by krygny
I don't mean to be dismissive or elitist, but you got 40K mi. out of your OEM Goodyears and that's basically all their worth. (I got 33K out of mine before one got a flat that couldn't be repaired.)
Now put a set of tires on your Pilot that it was meant to have. Get a 4-wheel alignment and put on a set of Michelin Cross Terrrains or Goodyear Fortera Triple-Treds (which I personally recommend).
You'll be much happier.
I don't mean to be dismissive or elitist, but I got over 65,000 miles from my original tires and attribute his "unusual" wear to not rotating the tires often enough (or at all).
I would put on 4 new tires and chalk it up to a lesson learned the hard way about the necessity of proper tire rotation.
I would NOT do an alignment unless the two rear tires were worn significantly differently. |
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| Sportymonk |
Like the others Not to be dismissive or elitist, (nice phrase;) ) but I have 50,500 on my Integrities and have 5/32 left. Will replace at 4/32.
I WOULD do an alignment anytime I put four new tires on. I get the lifetime alignment at Firestone where I can get it checked and adjusted anytime. |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by Sportymonk
Like the others Not to be dismissive or elitist, (nice phrase;) ) but I have 50,500 on my Integrities and have 5/32 left. Will replace at 4/32.
I WOULD do an alignment anytime I put four new tires on. I get the lifetime alignment at Firestone where I can get it checked and adjusted anytime.
If you have a perfectly fine running vehicle, as shown by over 50,000 or 60,000 miles of even tire wear, why would you let some guy with greasy hands and an alignment rack that might not have been serviced and/or calibrated in a year, loosen your suspension and try to make it match some numbers in a book.
At the most, I would have a competent alignment shop (one that services performance and custom cars) check the existing alignment and note where it is according to the specifications. |
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| krygny |
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Originally posted by Sportymonk
Like the others Not to be dismissive or elitist, (nice phrase;)
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| sblvro |
| tire rotation is every 15K miles.:rolleyes: |
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| bentley98 |
I am in Arizona and has never taken the Pilot offroad. Pilot has seen the rain on very rare occassions and has nver seen snow:D
To be brutaly honest, I don't remember doing a tire rotation :3:
Will try to post some pictures...... |
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| colorider |
I think at this point your best bet is to bite the bullet and purchase 4 new tires. I see no hope of claiming mfg defect when the tires have 40K miles and have never been rotated.
Suggest you rotate every 5K in the future.
Good Luck!
:) |
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| sagaliba |
| The only benefit tire rotation offers is to prolong the tire life. It is not mandatory. If you haven't rotated tires for 40k, I would not bother to rotate them; as the uneven wear in tires will result in less ideal surface contact after the rotation. |
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| colorider |
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Originally posted by sagaliba
The only benefit tire rotation offers is to prolong the tire life. It is not mandatory.
It also balances the wear on your tires. While not mandatory, it's a VERY good idea!!! (that's why auto and tire manufacturers recommend it) |
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| rlapid |
| i concur with colorider and n_jay. the lack of regular tire rotations is probably what caused your dilemma. i get mine rotated with every oil change and wear is consistent and minimal. it might be time for you to upgrade and enjoy a new set of quality tires (do a search and you'll find a million tire threads). and don't forget to rotate! |
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| sagaliba |
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Originally posted by colorider
It also balances the wear on your tires. While not mandatory, it's a VERY good idea!!! (that's why auto and tire manufacturers recommend it)
It prolongs the tire life by balancing the wear on your tires. To me, that is one point, not two.
The reason why rotating tires would balance the wear on tires is because all four tires wear a little bit differently (and rlapid is right that if you do not rotate the tires regularly then this uneven wear will become apparent). However, this uneven wear does not negatively affect your vehicle's handling (assume they are not caused by some problems, such as misalignment, over/under inflation, etc., in the first place). In fact, they represent the most optimal contact surface for the tires because as the tires wear, they conform to your vehicle's weight distribution to the ground .
If this unevenness is severe, then the tires would not have optimal contact with the ground after rotation. That is why if you do rotate tires, you need to do it often, usually 5000-7500 miles, before the unevenness becomes severe. If you wait too long then might as well not rotate them at all, and be prepared to replace tires based on the worst part of the tire wear (thus, you would have a shorter tire life than if you rotate them).
Some times, when rotating tire is too costly or too time consuming for you, then the latter approach may be the right approach. |
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| Sportymonk |
To bentley98 (the OP), what did you do? If you bought tires, what did you buy?
Enquiring (snoopy) minds want to know! :p
Seriously, keep in in the loop what happens. |
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| bentley98 |
I haven't gone to thye dealer to show them this "crazy" wear.....Will try to post some pictures.....Meanwhile, I have started another thread lokkini at "wider" tire options available.....
Looks like 255 70's are possible on stock rims Bridgestones Alenza (sp??) |
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