| bentley98 |
Not a big fan of low profile tires.... .but would like to get Wider & a bit lower stance than the stock ones.
What's the best tire choice I have, wiothout scarificing much of ride comfort and road noise.
I live in AZ and winter/rain etc are not major considerations, never going to take it offroad too. |
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| bentley98 |
Hi folks, after looking around, here is what I found so far...
Someone here had posted putting 285/75-16's on 16x7 wheels ( Tire width would go 9.3' to 11.2') :2:
In Discount tires, we can plus size safely to 245/70/16's ( over all tire width goes from 9.3' to 9.6'):mad:
Any one elase gone for 285's?? |
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| rocky |
There no way in the world that 285-75 will fit without major hacking of the bodywork! Stock diameter is 29, 285 is 36 inches
stick with 245-70 or perhaps 255/65. |
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| bentley98 |
quote:
Originally posted by rocky
There no way in the world that 285-75 will fit without major hacking of the bodywork! Stock diameter is 29, 285 is 36 inches
stick with 245-70 or perhaps 255/65.
With 285 75, the overall diameter would be 32.8 inches....
Also, I read somewhere here that, its NOT OK go down on the profile than 70??? |
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| rocky |
quote:
Originally posted by bentley98
With 285 75, the overall diameter would be 32.8 inches....
Also, I read somewhere here that, its NOT OK go down on the profile than 70???
My bad, typo terror. Still 285 wont fit.
Never heard that on lower profile.
Rim width however v aspect ratio is an issue for some shops. National chains rarely want to fit tires outside manufacturers specs |
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| bentley98 |
Wow, that is good to know that it was on something different than a Pilot;)
What else others have put on thge stock rims? Can any one direct me to some relevant thread? Couldn't find much in the search |
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| bentley98 |
After going thru some older threads, here is what I found out
Very few have tried with 255/70/16's on stock rims. No pictures or further updates. :(
245/70/16 seems to be an OK option with most of the folks....
Any inputs?? |
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| bentley98 |
Thanks Rocky:)
Any pictures?? How is the ride comfort and road noise? Any comments on dry weather handling? As I mentioned in the first post, I am in sunny AZ
:) :) |
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| rocky |
If you click on the link you can see pictures of the tire. Tirerack has even bigger pictures. Tire noise is a Pilot weakness and I'd say its no quieter than the GYs-but then it doesn't appear that there is any difference on tire noise regardless of brand and model of tire.
A search under Alenza on this site and on Tirerack ( www.tirerack.com ) will give you many opinions of this tire. On Tirerack you can drill down to read comments about it only the Pilot. I've commented elsewhere that handling in dry conditions is much improved, primarily IMHO because the tire and its sidewalls are stronger and better suited to a car of the Pilot's weight. As a result the bounce/uncertainty you feel on bumpy roads and corners is elimated. Wet traction, not that you get much rain down there is improved no end. |
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| bentley98 |
| Rocky, did you buy the Alenza in 255/70 ? I remeber reading in some other thread about you getting Alenza in 235 70... |
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| bentley98 |
| Anyone else tried with 255's on the stock rims? |
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| a2Pilot |
| Wow, the 245's we had on our 2003 Pilot were a tight fit once it was loaded with gear. It didn't rub, but it was close. I can't imagine how tight the fit must be with 255's. I'd like to see a pic of the 255's too! |
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| a2Pilot |
| Here's our 2003 with 245's. |
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| bentley98 |
wow, that close....how is it without full load?
Is the tires 245 70 16's? The difference in overall height from stock set up should be 0.5 inches?
btw, why can't a lower profile tire like 65 instead of 70 be used? |
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| a2Pilot |
Well, in hind sight, we wouldn't choose 245/70's again. There are a number of pics in my gallery that show these bigger tires.
http://www.hondapilot.org/photopost...php?ppuser=4148
They do fit, but do kinda look stuffed into the wheel wells. Maybe it's because they are Michelin LTX TRUCK tires? I liked them, but my wife doesn't. When the Goodyears wear out on her 2006, we'll stick with the 235/70 for replacements. :) |
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| bentley98 |
| Anyone knows why a lower profile tire like 65 or 60 can be put on the stock 16x6.5" wheels? |
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| jestmaty |
quote:
Originally posted by bentley98
Anyone knows why a lower profile tire like 65 or 60 can be put on the stock 16x6.5" wheels?
The stock tire size and a 255/65/16 are nearly identical in all aspects. The problem ( in my humble opinion ) is threefold.
The 255 is probably the widest tire that will fit and when in a '65' series profile, the tire has to really bend inward to the rim to fit. Think about it this way.... imagine if the oem '70' series tire was 12" from the ground to the bottom of the wheel rim. The stress on the side of the tire would be much, much less than if the total height of the '65' series tire was like 9".
I'm not a tire expert, but I believe the sidewall gets more stress and a small part of the tread could roll up away from the ground, making the contact patch even less.
Quite a few of the places I like to buy tires won't mount anything that has more than 3% difference from stock. For example, Costco won't put anything larger than a 245 on PIlots.
Lastly, potential rubbing when heavily loaded or towing is an issue. I tow with my Pilot and don't want to deal with those problems.
When the time comes, which will be in the next 6 months, I'll have a 255/70 mounted on a rim and put it on the back of my Pilot. Will have my wife, 115 lb son, and other 60 lb son sit at the very back of the hatch area. I (190lbs ) will stand on the hitch ball and have a discount tire guy look at clearance and advise me. I'm guessing close to 500 lbs at the very, very back of the Pilot, with nearly 200lbs of that on the hitch ball.
Then we'll move the tire to the front and mount on passenger side. Will turn the steering wheel fully left to right to check for rubbing or interference at front of the Pilot.
I just turned 49,800 miles today on the OEM GYs, and still have 6/32" in the center and 5/32" on the edges... they just won't wear out!!
I've never been a "stock' tire guy. When the time comes to replace OEMs, I always seem to get something a little bit bigger.
Last August, I bought new tires for my wife's Pontiac Vibe. Got only 36,000 miles from the OEMs, which were 215/50/17 sized. We put 235/45/17 Generals on it, and they look/drive/perform great!
My 1991 Nissan 240sx came stock with 195/60/15 which did fine but seriously lacked performance and visual appeal. In Sept, 2004, I bought 18 X 7.5" wheels and put 215/35/18 tires on them. I think I went a bit overboard, as 35 series tires ride like h*ll and are expensive to replace.
But... the Nissan is a playcar and gets about 2-3 thousand miles put on it each year.
I used to own a beautiful 1991 Honda CRXSI, and I upgraded from stock 14" wheels to 16". It was a perfect setup and really added to the handling and lowered look of the car. I think the stock size was 185/60/14 and I eventually went to 225/40/16 on the bigger/wider 16" wheel.
Finally, the Pilot will be getting a taller tire to help with my towing woes. I have to tow in D3, and the taller 255 will slightly lower my rolling tire revolutions per mile. Something from like the OEM ( which has about 720rpms per mile ) down to 690 rpms in the 255/70 configuration.
I'll definitely take pics and advise when I do the swap. But, I'm going into this with an open mind... if a 245 is more appropriate, I'll settle form that size. If the 255 doesn't cause any issues, other than a speedo that is a little bit off, then that's what I'll do. |
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| danpilot |
| Have you been happy with the Alenzas, now that some time has passed? I would like to go 245 width on either Alenzas or Toyos, and wonder about the experience overall. Someone told me the Alenzas were noisy, someone else said they were being discontinued. |
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| NC244GLT |
We have an '04 Pilot EX-L with the stock 16" wheels and some of my family are in town with their '07 Odyssey. I was looking at the tires (which look really big compared to the Pilot tires) and they are 235/65/16. Is the rim on the Ody wider than the pilot rim? I think the Ody tire would look perfect on the Pilot....especially since we are due for tires again. Anyone try this size with the stock rims?
I edited this because I went and looked at the Ody again and they are 235/65/16...I thought 255...duh. In any case, they are Michelins and they look much wider than the Pilot tires. Thoughts? |
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| tfrain |
quote:
Originally posted by a2Pilot
Well, in hind sight, we wouldn't choose 245/70's again. There are a number of pics in my gallery that show these bigger tires.
http://www.hondapilot.org/photopost...php?ppuser=4148
They do fit, but do kinda look stuffed into the wheel wells. Maybe it's because they are Michelin LTX TRUCK tires? I liked them, but my wife doesn't. When the Goodyears wear out on her 2006, we'll stick with the 235/70 for replacements. :)
I like the way the 245's look. Rounds out the truck. The stocks look a little to dinky for me. Still have a ways to go on the GY's though as we only have 20K miles on our pilot.
What does your wife not like about them? Were they loud? Did you mileage suffer? |
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| a2Pilot |
| The tires performed great. The fit was tight when the Pilot was loaded with gear. She didn't really like the raised white letters. :( |
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| Bowzer |
quote:
Originally posted by a2Pilot
The tires performed great. The fit was tight when the Pilot was loaded with gear. She didn't really like the raised white letters. :(
I'm really glad I saw your input on this. I've had great performance from multiple sets of LTX Mich's on a couple of vehicles: JGC 4x4 and an Isuzu Trooper 4x4. I also have a tendency to upgrade the size of OEM tires and have had great luck with it. I'm looking forward to when I can see enough wear on these OEM Integrity's to get them off. I was looking to go either 245/70 on my 08 Pilot or 255/65. I think the 245 will be plenty for the majority of highway use it gets and still keep the noise in check.
And I agree with your wife, for the Pilot I think the letters should go inboard leaving a blackwall for appearance. (But on my old 94 JGCherokee, it was all about performance look with the letters out.)
Love the heavier construction on the LTX! Stronger sidewalls, too. |
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| deryzzle |
| I have 245's Goodyear Fortera SilentArmor, it should be the #1 tire! |
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| Bowzer |
quote:
Originally posted by deryzzle
I have 245's Goodyear Fortera SilentArmor, it should be the #1 tire!
Please tell us more...WHat's your experience with these for ride, noise, and wear and how many miles on them. I'd be interested to look at them when time comes. |
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| deryzzle |
| 255's i think would be too big, 245 is the best size, its not too big nor too small. Ive driven about 70 miles with the GY Fortera SilentArmors and you wil notice a dramatic change compared to the OEM GY integrities, it's overall the best tire! They stick to the pavemtn like glue! It's so quiet, and smooth. |
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| Waterhound7 |
Hello,
so has anyone tried a 255/56/16? I was looking at those, almost same overall diam.. my concern is our wheels are only 6.5 wide and I think they recommend a min of 7".. |
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