| sewers |
| i recently purchased a 2009 pilot w/res & nav and had dealer install the remote starter for $595.i was not happy with having to shut off car either with the remote starter or by opening the door with the key.i argued my point with owner of dealership for 20 minutes.the best he did was agree too send a check for $250.i dont like the factory remote being inoperatable when vehicle is started with the honda remote stater.it seems almost to defeat the purpose.i got a genuine honda remote starter for $345 but still am not satisfied.:mad: |
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| youbetcha |
I agree, that seems bizarre. The remote starts I've seen on other cars let you enter the car and drive away, you just have to turn the engine to "on". I did a search online and found the owner's manual, it didn't explicitly spell out "here is what you do once you remote start and the want to drive off" but it sure looked like this is how they designed it (p11).
https://techinfo.honda.com/rjanisis...AU/AAM39658.pdf
Honda tends to not put this kind of stuff in as a factory option so maybe these limitations are the result. |
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| rlapid |
| i'm a little confused. how exactly does honda's remote starter work? you have to shut it off before you get in the car, and then start it again once you're inside? |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by rlapid
i'm a little confused. how exactly does honda's remote starter work? you have to shut it off before you get in the car, and then start it again once you're inside?
The Pilot shuts off when you open the door, and then you restart it with the key.
I don't see what the big deal is, but then, I don't see the need for a remote stater (especially when unnecessary idling is a big waste of fuel and generally not good for the car). |
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| rlapid |
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Originally posted by N_Jay
I don't see what the big deal is, but then, I don't see the need for a remote stater (especially when unnecessary idling is a big waste of fuel and generally not good for the car).
i'd have to agree here. if it didn't require you to re-start the car once you got inside, then it would be ok because you could just hop in and go. it is a waste of gas to let your pilot sit idling, but for some people, its worth it to have the car nice and warm/cool when you step inside. |
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| dragoncoach |
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Originally posted by sewers
i recently purchased a 2009 pilot w/res & nav and had dealer install the remote starter for $595.i was not happy with having to shut off car either with the remote starter or by opening the door with the key.i argued my point with owner of dealership for 20 minutes.the best he did was agree too send a check for $250.i dont like the factory remote being inoperatable when vehicle is started with the honda remote stater.it seems almost to defeat the purpose.i got a genuine honda remote starter for $345 but still am not satisfied.:mad:
I think your concern is having to shut down and restart your car AFTER you have already started it and want to leave. This is a safety issue so you won't get your car stolen. People often start their cars in the winter from inside their homes. You don't want a yahoo to run over, break the window and drive off with your car! The remote starts I've installed always had a failsafe built in to avoid theft. This would either involve hooking up both the doorswitch and brakelight switch to shutdown the engine if either are tripped. |
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| dragoncoach |
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Originally posted by rlapid
i'd have to agree here. if it didn't require you to re-start the car once you got inside, then it would be ok because you could just hop in and go. it is a waste of gas to let your pilot sit idling, but for some people, its worth it to have the car nice and warm/cool when you step inside.
Usually not a problem here in the Bay Area! |
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| rlapid |
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Originally posted by dragoncoach
Usually not a problem here in the Bay Area!
that's why i love nor-cal! :7: |
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| charly |
I see that most of you guys are complaining about the Remote start already.
I still remember when i saw at the honda web that the new pilot would have an optional remot started. i got exaited but now that i see how it works not exited at all.
But i've been thinking could there be a way to cut the wires which make the engine go offf when you open the door with the key/remote. and tap it to the brake pedal or somewhere else.
When you release the brake pedal the engine should go off. So the car cant be stolen but by putting the key in the engine should stay on even when you release the breake pedal.
Ps.Do you guys know what i am talking about. To override the system.:crazyeye: :crazyeye: |
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| youbetcha |
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Originally posted by dragoncoach
This is a safety issue so you won't get your car stolen.
This isn't an issue.
First, even though the car is running, you still have to physically put the key into the ignition, step on the brake, and turn the key to "on" to get the transmission out of park. Second, the engine may be running but since the ignition is still off, your steering wheel is locked. |
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| ED27 |
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Originally posted by sewers
.....i dont like the factory remote being inoperatable when vehicle is started with the honda remote stater.it seems almost to defeat the purpose.i got a genuine honda remote starter for $345 but still am not satisfied.:mad:
This is just a limitation of how the Honda accessory works (not an issue with aftermarket units). You bought the wrong product for your needs. The dealer is at fault for not explaining the details of the system before installation but you're at fault for not doing the pre-sale research and assuming that it would work like a typical remote start system.
You have 2 options at this point:
- Have the dealer remove the system completely and get an aftermarket system installed.
- Get the wiring diagram for the system and see if a competant car audio shop can modify the wiring to change the shutdown trigger (doesn't address the remote issue and will void the accessory warranty).
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| funkho |
I can vouch for aftermarket systems not having this limitation.
I used to have a remote start in an old Accord of mine. It would start the car remotely, but if you sat down and hit the brake, the car would cut off. You had to get into the car and put the key in the ignition and turn to the run position. Then everything would work normally.
I'm glad to know that Honda's is jacked. I was thinking about getting it since I live in the south and it gets hot down here. Plus, I have black leather inside. Now, I'll be sure to have my local audio shop put in an aftermarket starter. |
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| pesto126 |
| As I just posted in the other thread about this.. have a dealer installed Automate that does not have this behavior... unlock doors and the car remains running.. guess I lucked out that my dealer used a good aftermarket... works perfectly and only cost $475 (and I didn't even pay for it since I negotiated it with the price)... |
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