| Lookin for recommendations on a new batter for an 05' Pilot, please advise. thanks
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| Sean Price |
as stated in my 1st post in the specific year section..
aight here's the deal...
I just picked up an 05' Pilot less then a week ago... and now the maintenance required light came on while driving... <-- that can't be good...
then yesterday I go to start it after not drivin it for 6 hours and its dead, it won't start... I got a jump pack and got her going...worked fine again but light still on.. get to work, then 8 hours later completely dead again.. have to jump pack start it again... get it home.. tried today and now COMPLETELY DEAD...no lights come on or anything.. now even wit the jump pack FULLLY charged(left chargin all night) it wont' start... it jus clicks and the dash lights and so on barely even come on...
what is the deal? PLEASE tell me its just needs a new battery right?, please...
although that kinda sucks since I have had it for less then a week.. tho I did drive it over 3,000 miles in that week, across the USA(north/south) from very hot TX weather to semi warm/cold midwest WI/IL weather...
dealer is located 1100 miles from me, so I don't think I have any recource in that direction, what do you all think?
a buddy of mine suggested a Napa Legendary battery 75/78 series Blue Label, but I'm having a bear of a time tryin to locate this on Napa's website..
any ideas or suggestions?
THANK YOU ALL
oNe |
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| N_Jay |
The "Maintenance Required" light is just a mileage based reminder. It does not mean there is any problem other than needing an oil change.
Make sure no interior lights are left on. There are the usual culprit in dead batteries.
Almost any name brand battery is fine. Go to Walmart, SamsClub or Costsco. |
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| Sportymonk |
The maintenance light may be the dying battery but it may be a bad alternator problem. I would take it to Autozone Advance Auto Parts etc and have them test it if you can get it there. IIRC, it seems some have had the mainteneanc elight go on in connection with a weak battery and it cleared when repalced.
Here is a link that may shed some light on batteries (read on to page two).
http://www.hondapilot.org/forums/sh...ma&pagenumber=1
There are serveral school of through on batteries, mainly based upon experience.
A) They only last about 3 years or a little more so replace them before you are stranded.
B)They can last 8 - 10 years, wait till they go dead.
When I did my search, I noticed several 05 owners seem to have battery issues. May be age. Then again, if you have run the battery down by leaving the lights on, the life of the battery will be shortened. (Hhmmm, I have an 05 and my wife's 05 Civic's battery died a few months ago. Maybe I should start taking the hint? :rolleyes: )
The link above mentions the Costco Kirkland and an Optima Red Top. Consider when you get a battery, will you be able to get warranty issues handled easily. Autozone's, Advanced Auto Parts, Sears, are pretty much everywhere. A Costco may be difficult to find on a trip.
Where you live affects what you want, if you are in cold climates, you wnat a stronger battery. For folks like me in the south, we can use a regular strength battery.
I bought the battery for my wife's Civic at Firestone (Interstate brand) because I was already there for a OFL. The battery had gone flat two weeks previously and she was going to have to make several trips out of state in the next few months. The tester said it was weak so I just went ahead for peace of mind and replaced it.
I would not spend a lot on a long warranty battery as they seem to short out or die in about 3-4 years anyways. The warranty is usually prorated which is their way of keeping you coming back to buy from them. I would look for a sale on a brand name battery and go for it.
BTW - You will need to do the idle learn proceedure, reset the radio codes, and redo the automatic window reset after the new battery is put in. Its in the owner's manual but if you have trouble, ask as there is lots of info on the site about this.
Come on folks help him out, my memory is fading and my meds are wearing off this morning!:p |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by Sportymonk
The maintenance light may be the dying battery but it may be a bad alternator problem.
If it is the "Maintenance Required" light then it is NOT a dying battery or alternator.
It is just the miles since last reset.
The "Check Engine" is a different light.
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Originally posted by Sportymonk
Come on folks help him out, my memory is fading and my meds are wearing off this morning!:p
We are trying but it is hard.
You do not need an "Optima" battery, a normal type will work fine.
Unless you are in the arctic, or antarctica, you don't need anything different than the normal size battery recommended.
4X4 And other designations on batteries are mostly BS.
Cold weather takes a little more to start, but hot weather shortens the battery life. Either way, I would not buy anything special for Chicago. |
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| Pairallel |
| There is nothing wrong with the Honda batteries either. I believe they come with a 100-month warranty and are about $100 installed. Might be nice to have the dealer install it since you don't know the repair history on the Pilot. |
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| Sportymonk |
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Originally posted by N_Jay
....You do not need an "Optima" battery, a normal type will work fine.
Unless you are in the arctic, or antarctica, you don't need anything different than the normal size battery recommended.
... Either way, I would not buy anything special for Chicago.
Agreed. I couldn't see where he was from as I answered. Chicago does get cold in the winter though.
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By PAirallel - There is nothing wrong with the Honda batteries either. I believe they come with a 100-month warranty and are about $100 installed.
Yep, forgot that one. The battery in my wife's Civic was the kind the tops poped off. I realized I hadn't checked my Pilot and when I looke d I remembered why, it is sealed with no way of adding water. That kind does seem to last longer, IMHO. He did say he was a long way from the dealer (1100 miles IIRC) but there ought to be a dealer nearby. (Thanks for remembering for me. Now I got to try and remember where I put my memory pills!) |
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| 75blazer |
I went with a Sears Die Hard Gold North. I figured since I live in Chicago the North designation would suit me better. The Sears guy said a north battery will last just fine in the south, but a south battery will not do well in the north. I'm happy with it, but DO check the interior lights.
Here's the battery I got.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_...otive+Batteries |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by N_Jay
4X4 And other designations on batteries are mostly BS.
Add "Gold" and "North" to that list of BS designations.
Looks like a $40 adder for a Diehard label. |
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| Sean Price |
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Originally posted by Pairallel
There is nothing wrong with the Honda batteries either. I believe they come with a 100-month warranty and are about $100 installed. Might be nice to have the dealer install it since you don't know the repair history on the Pilot.
what do you mean repair history and NOT knowin it?
here is what I found on napa online
http://www.napaonline.com/masterpag...nth+-+Universal
what do u think? overkill?
what would it run me at wal mart?
**EDIT** just called napa and they got the 75 month series for $75..
I just pulled the manual out and will read it quick on the reset stuff touched on about.. but if anyone can point out or link online how to do the RECALIBRATION it would be very much appreciated.;.
thanks you all
you have been most awesome!!
oNe |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by Sean Price
what would it run me at wal mart?
but if anyone can point out or link online how to do the RECALIBRATION it would be very much appreciated.;.
$45 to $55
Get the right size not a "universal"
Start the car without touching the gas at all.
Let it idle for 10 minutes.
If the cooling fan runs don't count those minutes.
Should take less than 15 minutes total.
Shut off and all done.
Reset drivers window and radio. (both in Owner's manual.) |
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| tangotango99 |
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Originally posted by N_Jay
Add "Gold" and "North" to that list of BS designations.
Looks like a $40 adder for a Diehard label.
N-Jay, as a share holder of sears holding I protest your insunuation on this subject.:D : |
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| 75blazer |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
Add "Gold" and "North" to that list of BS designations.
Looks like a $40 adder for a Diehard label.
Your assertion implies that all batteries are the same. I suppose next your going to say is that there's no difference between a starting battery and a deep cycle battery, or that lead acid is the same as AGM? (maybe I'm getting a little carried away here)
I know you're a stickler for evidnce so here it is.
Group size 24F
Sears Die Hard Weatherhandler South - $79.99
41 lbs.
500 Cold Cranking Amps
105 Minute Reserve Capacity
Sears Die Hard Weatherhandler North - $79.99
40.7 lbs.
585 Cold Cranking Amps
105 Minute Reserve Capacity
Sears Die Hard Gold South - $99.99
42 lbs.
700 Cold Cranking Amps
120 Minute Reserve Capacity
Sears Die Hard Gold North - $99.99
42 lbs.
700 Cold Cranking Amps
120 Minute Reserve Capacity
I don't know about you, but I see differences. At a minimum, $20 worth of BS labels provide an addtional 15 minutes of reserve capacity and 115 CCA's. |
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| tangotango99 |
quote:
Originally posted by 75blazer
Your assertion implies that all batteries are the same. I suppose next your going to say is that there's no difference between a starting battery and a deep cycle battery, or that lead acid is the same as AGM? (maybe I'm getting a little carried away here)
I know you're a stickler for evidnce so here it is.
Group size 24F
Sears Die Hard Weatherhandler South - $79.99
41 lbs.
500 Cold Cranking Amps
105 Minute Reserve Capacity
Sears Die Hard Weatherhandler North - $79.99
40.7 lbs.
585 Cold Cranking Amps
105 Minute Reserve Capacity
Sears Die Hard Gold South - $99.99
42 lbs.
700 Cold Cranking Amps
120 Minute Reserve Capacity
Sears Die Hard Gold North - $99.99
42 lbs.
700 Cold Cranking Amps
120 Minute Reserve Capacity
I don't know about you, but I see differences. At a minimum, $20 worth of BS labels provide an addtional 15 minutes of reserve capacity and 115 CCA's.
Did the labels originate from sears or a independent Research Institute? |
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| Sean Price |
waht page of the manual yall? i just went thru it and i'm not findin it? index is not listed any calibration?
all i found was reset codes but that does not seem to be it..
let me know
I need to reset the rpm's is what I was told..
thanks
oNe |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by 75blazer
Your assertion implies that all batteries are the same. I suppose next your going to say is that there's no difference between a starting battery and a deep cycle battery, or that lead acid is the same as AGM? (maybe I'm getting a little carried away here)
Most automotive starting batteries from reputable brands are the same.
Yes, capacities are different, but you don't need any more CCA than teh original factory battery.
Additional reserve capacity could be helpful if you regularly leave the lights on, but for most people it is irrelevant since they usually discover the problem many hours after the battery is dead.
AGM is just a type of lead acid battery, not a different type from lead acid. |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by Sean Price
waht page of the manual yall? i just went thru it and i'm not findin it? index is not listed any calibration?
all i found was reset codes but that does not seem to be it..
let me know
I need to reset the rpm's is what I was told..
thanks
oNe
It's called "idle learn". It is in the service manual and most accessory installation instructions if the battery is to be disconnected. |
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| whizmo |
Just start by replacing the battery and work from there to see if you have further problems. They often fail, they're cheap and they're easily replaceable, so they're the first thing to try in this situation.
Consumer Reports often rates batteries. Personally, I'd get one at Costco.
An '05 doesn't have the maintenance minder system, so I assume the "maintenance required" light is a sign there is a trouble code stored somewhere in the computer. If replacing the battery seems to solve your starting problems, I'd wait a few days after replacement to see if the light resets on its own. If not, I'd take it to a mechanic to have the trouble code read and the light reset. If it comes back on again after resetting, then it's time to start looking into whatever system the trouble code indicates might be at fault.
Good luck,
- Mark |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by whizmo
. . . . so I assume the "maintenance required" light is a sign there is a trouble code stored somewhere in the computer. . . . . .
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
The "Maintenance Required" light is just a mileage based reminder. It does not mean there is any problem other than needing an oil change.
Thanks for playing!
Next! |
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| Sean Price |
quote:
Originally posted by N_Jay
It's called "idle learn". It is in the service manual and most accessory installation instructions if the battery is to be disconnected.
looks like in my 05' manual its called Testing Of Readiness Codes...
its on page 254 of the manual...
looks like everday drivin will fix it per the manual just drive it normal for a few days and it will calibrate.. so why manually do it?
is there such a thing as online service manuals for the 05' Pilot? like Helms Service manuals?
that would be an awesome godsend if somebody could post those up
thanks
oNe |
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| N_Jay |
quote:
Originally posted by Sean Price
looks like in my 05' manual its called Testing Of Readiness Codes...
its on page 254 of the manual...
looks like everday drivin will fix it per the manual just drive it normal for a few days and it will calibrate.. so why manually do it?
is there such a thing as online service manuals for the 05' Pilot? like Helms Service manuals?
that would be an awesome godsend if somebody could post those up
thanks
oNe
I don't know if later years have replaced the idle learn procedure.
The manual is copyrighted and sold, so I doubt it will show up on line for free. |
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| rocky |
| Most 12v batteries in the US are made by the same company anyway. |
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| xGS |
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Originally posted by rocky
Most 12v batteries in the US are made by the same company anyway.
Meaning what? |
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| ericsgr |
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Originally posted by N_Jay
It's called "idle learn". It is in the service manual and most accessory installation instructions if the battery is to be disconnected.
'05 most certainly does have that maintenance required light as a reminder of oil changes. Mine is on right now. I keep meaning to reset it and havent yet. |
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| Pilotman2005 |
| Yes, my 2005 as well! |
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