| kevinssf |
Any of you guys use sea foam before? I'm thinking about using it and wondering what results you guys have come up with by using this.
here's a link for those who don't know what sea foam is...
http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm |
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| robrecht |
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Originally posted by kevinssf
Any of you guys use sea foam before? I'm thinking about using it and wondering what results you guys have come up with by using this.
here's a link for those who don't know what sea foam is...
http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm
Are you thinking of putting it in your gas tank or sucking it into your intake manifold or doing a piston soak? I've done all three on another car with good results. If you're just sucking it into the intake manifold, I think water probably works just as well or maybe even better some say. As a piston soak, I've seen quantifiable improvement in bringing compression back to stock on a carboned-up engine. I believe it may help in your gas tank, as a shock treatment to help clean injectors, but I think it's probably better to use a good detergent gasonline, eg, Shell V-Power, on a regular or constant basis ... but I'm too cheap to do so myself. |
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| rocky |
Used it on my truck (155k) via gas tank and it smoothed the idle and acceleration,
Then tried it in inlet without anything spectacular happening :confused: |
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| kevinssf |
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Originally posted by robrecht
Are you thinking of putting it in your gas tank or sucking it into your intake manifold or doing a piston soak? I've done all three on another car with good results. If you're just sucking it into the intake manifold, I think water probably works just as well or maybe even better some say. As a piston soak, I've seen quantifiable improvement in bringing compression back to stock on a carboned-up engine. I believe it may help in your gas tank, as a shock treatment to help clean injectors, but I think it's probably better to use a good detergent gasonline, eg, Shell V-Power, on a regular or constant basis ... but I'm too cheap to do so myself.
water in the intake manifold?
If I'm correct, by cleaning the intake manifold you mean adding sea foam to the break booster line right? My friend did it to his prelude a few days ago, adding it to the brea booster line and gas tank. Afterwards he said while he was driving, the car felt like it wasn't even turned on.
how do i do a piston soak? |
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| robrecht |
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Originally posted by kevinssf
water in the intake manifold?
If I'm correct, by cleaning the intake manifold you mean adding sea foam to the break booster line right? My friend did it to his prelude a few days ago, adding it to the brea booster line and gas tank. Afterwards he said while he was driving, the car felt like it wasn't even turned on.
how do i do a piston soak?
Yes, through any of a number of vacuum lines. I think the theory is that since water doesn't burn or compress it actually has more bombastic force to break off carbon as opposed to a solvent that burns off quickly but makes a lot of impressive smoke. Of course, not too much water so as to avoid hydrolock. Piston soak (with the engine still in the car) is accomplished by adding it through the spark plug holes and letting it sit for a few hours or overnight and dissolve the carbon that way. |
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| kevinssf |
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| robrecht |
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Originally posted by kevinssf
Sorry, I've never done this on a Pilot and I'm out of town until the middle of next week. If no one else chimes in the meantime, I'll take a look then. |
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| rlapid |
here's my favorite seafoam :2: :18:
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| krygny |
| Amazing stuff. Pour it in the intake. Pour it in the crankcase. Pour it in the gas tank. This stuff does EVERYTHING!! :rolleyes: |
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| robrecht |
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Originally posted by krygny
Amazing stuff. Pour it in the intake. Pour it in the crankcase. Pour it in the gas tank. This stuff does EVERYTHING!! :rolleyes:
You can also soak your head in it as a cure for baldness and/or ignorance--overnight soak for best results.
Worked great for me--I learned that it doesn't cure baldness. :7: |
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| macphanatic |
| Just think what it will do if put in your tires.:D |
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| ctobio |
Funny thing though- Seafoam is no snake oil, and I'm a big skeptic.
I have a '97 Honda Passport just sitting in my driveway for no good reason. It sat for 3 months waiting for me to replace a power steering hose. The car ran a bit rough when I finally fired her up. So, I dumped some seafoam in the tank in a fairly high concentration, and deep-creeped the intake, and damned if it doesn't idle a bit smoother now and growl a little less.
I have yet to Seafoam my Passat, but I use it in my small engines as well when I give them a little cleaning. |
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| kevinssf |
| anyone able to answer my brake booster line question? thanks |
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| ctobio |
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Originally posted by kevinssf
anyone able to answer my brake booster line question? thanks
The hose that runs to the drum behind the master cylinder? That's the brake booster line.
If you're going to do a seafoam this way, here's what I recommend:
Disconnect the line at the brake booster. Stick a tee in that line. Take a length of hose and stick it one one end of the tee. Take another length of hose and stick it on the other end of the tee.
Take a clean, clear plasic bottle and put in 6 oz of seafoam in it. Now, dip one end of the tee hose in the bottle. The other end of the tee that's not in the brake booster line is open to the air. Basically, this allows you to slowly siphon seafoam from the bottle.
Try to keep the RPMs at around 2000 when you do this, and shut off the car as soon as you're done siphoning. Wait about 30 minutes, then drive it like yo stole it. It'll look like you're mosquito fogging when you drive. Once the white smoke is done, you're done. |
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| kevinssf |
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Originally posted by ctobio
The hose that runs to the drum behind the master cylinder? That's the brake booster line.
If you're going to do a seafoam this way, here's what I recommend:
Disconnect the line at the brake booster. Stick a tee in that line. Take a length of hose and stick it one one end of the tee. Take another length of hose and stick it on the other end of the tee.
Take a clean, clear plasic bottle and put in 6 oz of seafoam in it. Now, dip one end of the tee hose in the bottle. The other end of the tee that's not in the brake booster line is open to the air. Basically, this allows you to slowly siphon seafoam from the bottle.
Try to keep the RPMs at around 2000 when you do this, and shut off the car as soon as you're done siphoning. Wait about 30 minutes, then drive it like yo stole it. It'll look like you're mosquito fogging when you drive. Once the white smoke is done, you're done.
So I went ahead and took a shot of the pilot's own engine bay...
the brake booster is the big, black saucer shaped object behind the brake fluid holder against the driver’s side firewall right?
an extra pic for additional clarity...
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| oviphagy |
I've used the stuff on my '95 V-6 accord and it worked great. I put about half straight into the gas tank and they other half i let the engine suck into the PCV (positive crankcase ventiliation) line while the engine is running.
It looks like the line you have pointed out is from the Master cylinder there KEVINSSF so i don't think it's correct.
my recommendation is if and when you find the PCV line is to let the engine suck it in then shut it off for about 5-10 minutes. then start the pilot and find a highway and a wide open area to let the smoke dissapate and run the hell outa it (high speed to heat the engine up and blow the crap out the exhaust). thats it.
Let me get home tonight and take a look around under the hood and see what i can find for ya. |
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| ctobio |
No, that's the vacuum booster line. It'll have manifold vacuum on it, which is what you want. Obviously, you undo it from the booster side. The Seafoam instructions themselves recommend using the brake booster line.
You may get a CEL when you unto this hose, as you'll be letting unmetered air in (Lean, Bank 1 & 2). |
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| kevinssf |
im lost...don't i pour seafoam through the brake booster line? in which the brake booster line will suck the seafoam up like a vacuum?
and that picture where i circled out the brake booster line, that IS the brake booster line isnt it? and thats where i would suck up the seafoam right? >_> |
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| ctobio |
| Yes, you can use the brake booster line, but you must do it slowly. If you suck up a bunch, you could hydrolock the engine. |
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| kevinssf |
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Originally posted by ctobio
Yes, you can use the brake booster line, but you must do it slowly. If you suck up a bunch, you could hydrolock the engine.
don't i suck up a bunch if it doesn't die before i ifinsh using 1/3 of the can? that way it'll force the engine to stop? |
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| ctobio |
| I mean, don't suck up a big gulp of the fluid. Have the engine sip slowly. 1/3 a can will do nicely, but it's not the amount, it's the speed by which you pull it in. Hence the T-apparatus I described- it permits the engine to suction it slowly, but you can accomplish the same by dipping the hose briefly into the container and pulling it out, a few sips at a time. |
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| kevinssf |
| this might be a stupid question but, the brake booster line is the main intake manifold vacuum line right? |
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| Layspeed |
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Originally posted by kevinssf
this might be a stupid question but, the brake booster line is the main intake manifold vacuum line right?
Usually it is, but just a tip, don't disconnect the vacuum hose from the brake booster. Disconnect it from the intake manifold and put another piece of hose onto the nipple at the manifold. The reason being, there is a vacuum check valve inside of that brake booster vacuum hose and you DO NOT want to run any fluid/cleaning agents through it. |
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| youbetcha |
Why are there so many videos on youtube of people with the seafoam watching smoke coming out of their tailpipe?
Do they think that is the 'dirtiness' coming out of their car? |
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| humanoid |
| The smoke is the carbon that's been "dissolved" by the SeaFoam and then burned up in the combustion process. |
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| youbetcha |
How do you know the smoke isn't just the seafoam itself?
If you do it on a brand new engine, you get no smoke? |
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| ctobio |
| The smoke is actually the seafoam largely. That said, it does some good in cleaning out crud from the intake. |
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| kevinssf |
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Originally posted by Layspeed
Usually it is, but just a tip, don't disconnect the vacuum hose from the brake booster. Disconnect it from the intake manifold and put another piece of hose onto the nipple at the manifold. The reason being, there is a vacuum check valve inside of that brake booster vacuum hose and you DO NOT want to run any fluid/cleaning agents through it.
thanks, i was wondering why some guy on youtube with a bmw that used seafoam and another guy with an audi using seafoam, both didn't use the original hose/tube, they used their own |
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