| dsm_rally |
| I ordered a new set of Goodyear TripleTreds from The Tire Rack On Tuesday. They arrived yesterday (Wednesday) and I had them mounted and balanced at a local shop today. Total cost was about $725. Pricey but they seem worth every penny so far. I've only driven them about 10 miles but the change in handling and HUGE reduction in body roll is MORE than worth the price. I know this has all been said before but it's amazing how badly the OEM GY Integrity tires SUCK!!! The TTs make a bit more road noise but I'm expecting that to decrease a bit as I put more miles on them. Even if it doesn't I'll remain one happy camper. |
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| robrecht |
| I put them on my wife's Pilot a few months ago and I really like them too. Very confidence inspiring. Can't remember what the price was, but didn't want to scrimp on tires, which I consider to be the most important preventative safety feature on a car ... well maybe 2nd, after brakes. |
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| djstorm |
I've had the TTs on my Pilot for some time now. I had the Duelers first (0-21,000 miles on the odometer), then I switched to the SilentArmors (21,000-21,500 miles on the odometer). I liked how quiet the SAs were, but the traction wasn't as good as the Duelers were brand new. So, I stepped up to the TTs (21,000-27,500 miles, which is the current mileage on mine). I took a hit on the road noise, but I gained so much more in traction, stability and cornering. They're wearing quite well and they're still excellent in the rain and snow. And, they're still balanced - no 70 mph shimmy!
After our new Accord's Michelins wear down (Pilot HX MXM4), I'm going with the car version of these, the Assurance Tripletreds. |
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| donx |
| Have any of you who switched to TT noticed any fuel economy difference? Thanks! |
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| robrecht |
quote:
Originally posted by donx
Have any of you who switched to TT noticed any fuel economy difference? Thanks!
I expect it might be a little worse than the Integrities because of heavier rotational weight but can't really say for sure since we don't keep track of our mileage on the Pilot. |
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| donx |
quote:
Originally posted by robrecht
I expect it might be a little worse than the Integrities because of heavier rotational weight but can't really say for sure since we don't keep track of our mileage on the Pilot.
I would take safety first priority, so a little worse should be fine. I have Duelers though, not sure it will make any difference from Integrities in terms of fuel economy. I used dedicated winter tire last winter, and did not notice huge reduction on fuel economy, so I would assume the same thing with TTs. |
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| krygny |
quote:
Originally posted by donx
Have any of you who switched to TT noticed any fuel economy difference? Thanks!
I saw no mileage difference when I went from the Integritys to the TripleTreds. I found the TTs to be quieter (no "whine") and much better in all 'round performance, especially in rain and slush. |
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| djstorm |
I've seen about a 1 mpg difference (lowering). Not bad at all for the level of traction and performance...
Then of course, it could be that it's a little more fun to drive the Pilot now too...:roadtrip: |
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| dsm_rally |
quote:
Originally posted by donx
Have any of you who switched to TT noticed any fuel economy difference? Thanks!
I just got back from a 450-ish mile road trip w/ the new TTs. At my last fill up, I calculated 20.5 mpg, with 2 adults, 2 kids and a load of junk in the car. Not bad. |
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| coeng73 |
They're nice and shiny out of the box, but my expectations fell short.
Read this thread starting at post on April 9 2008 thru my post today. |
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| jl_ss |
quote:
Originally posted by coeng73
They're nice and shiny out of the box, but my expectations fell short.
Read this thread starting at post on April 9 2008 thru my post today.
I just checked the tread depth on our TT's with 30K on them - it's 8/32" all the way around. I had an alignment done when they were installed and I rotate them every 5-7K miles. |
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| coeng73 |
quote:
Originally posted by jl_ss
I just checked the tread depth on our TT's with 30K on them - it's 8/32" all the way around. I had an alignment done when they were installed and I rotate them every 5-7K miles.
Then I can't explain why I'm getting shortened life out of them. I don't drive like a maniac and I take care of the vehicle as it should be taken care of. I'm no mechanic or tire expert so perhaps someone can explain to me why I'm getting premature tire wear. Is it the area I live in (Northern NJ)? |
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| jl_ss |
quote:
Originally posted by coeng73
Then I can't explain why I'm getting shortened life out of them. I don't drive like a maniac and I take care of the vehicle as it should be taken care of. I'm no mechanic or tire expert so perhaps someone can explain to me why I'm getting premature tire wear. Is it the area I live in (Northern NJ)?
I see you had them installed at Sears - did you have a full alignment done at installation by a competent tire shop (not Sears)? |
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| robrecht |
quote:
Originally posted by coeng73
Then I can't explain why I'm getting shortened life out of them. I don't drive like a maniac and I take care of the vehicle as it should be taken care of. I'm no mechanic or tire expert so perhaps someone can explain to me why I'm getting premature tire wear. Is it the area I live in (Northern NJ)?
I see from the other thread that you also got horrible treadlife from your factory tires with three alignments. Did you suspect a problem? What were the symptoms? What caused the laceration on your front tire? At any rate, since the problem has been repeated on a second set of high quality tires, I would look elsewhere for the problem. Go to a very experienced shop (not Sears) and speak to the service manager directly and ask them to not only check your alignment but also check your tie-rod ends, wheel balance, and everything else they can think of. Ask the service manager to check it out himself and speak with him directly when you go back. Make sure he knows that you've essentially gotten terrible treadlife on your last two sets of tires. There's obviously something going on besides your tires. |
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| coeng73 |
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Originally posted by robrecht
I see from the other thread that you also got horrible treadlife from your factory tires with three alignments. Did you suspect a problem? What were the symptoms? What caused the laceration on your front tire? At any rate, since the problem has been repeated on a second set of high quality tires, I would look elsewhere for the problem. Go to a very experienced shop (not Sears) and speak to the service manager directly and ask them to not only check your alignment but also check your tie-rod ends, wheel balance, and everything else they can think of. Ask the service manager to check it out himself and speak with him directly when you go back. Make sure he knows that you've essentially gotten terrible treadlife on your last two sets of tires. There's obviously something going on besides your tires.
Well, I went to Sears today and was able to get $103 credit per tire (for the three tires that had 34K miles on them) which I applied to the purchase of three new TTs. The manager would not let me pick a different tire brand no matter how much I pleaded my case. I think I got a pretty good deal considering.
Regarding my maintenance of the vehicle...I am very up to date on this. I had the 60K check done before summer's start and everything was fine except for a minor leak on a shock on the driver's side rear that I intend to replace in the near future. When Sears picked it up on the lift today they said that my suspension was fine and the alignment was within spec. That's why I was able to get the warranty credit.
So basically I have a new set of TT except for the drivers side left which is at 10/32. Why the laceration you ask? I have no idea. I noticed a gash one day and just felt safer replacing the tire. |
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| Pilot-Matt |
I have 50k on my OEM Not-so-Goodyears and I'm ready to make the leap into the new tire realm. My mind is in a state of confusion researching the proper tire for our all-season Ohio road conditions. I'm torn between the TT's, the Michelin LTX M/S & CT's, and the Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza's.
Sombody help me!!!
:D |
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| robrecht |
quote:
Originally posted by coeng73
Well, I went to Sears today and was able to get $103 credit per tire (for the three tires that had 34K miles on them) which I applied to the purchase of three new TTs. The manager would not let me pick a different tire brand no matter how much I pleaded my case. I think I got a pretty good deal considering.
Regarding my maintenance of the vehicle...I am very up to date on this. I had the 60K check done before summer's start and everything was fine except for a minor leak on a shock on the driver's side rear that I intend to replace in the near future. When Sears picked it up on the lift today they said that my suspension was fine and the alignment was within spec. That's why I was able to get the warranty credit.
So basically I have a new set of TT except for the drivers side left which is at 10/32. Why the laceration you ask? I have no idea. I noticed a gash one day and just felt safer replacing the tire.
So how do you explain why you've gotten such horrible treadlife on your last two sets of tires? |
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| robrecht |
quote:
Originally posted by Pilot-Matt
I have 50k on my OEM Not-so-Goodyears and I'm ready to make the leap into the new tire realm. My mind is in a state of confusion researching the proper tire for our all-season Ohio road conditions. I'm torn between the TT's, the Michelin LTX M/S & CT's, and the Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza's.
Sombody help me!!!
:D
All good tires, what kind of help do you need? |
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| coeng73 |
quote:
Originally posted by robrecht
So how do you explain why you've gotten such horrible treadlife on your last two sets of tires?
Bad luck? |
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| robrecht |
quote:
Originally posted by coeng73
Bad luck?
Third time's probably not a charm. |
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| jl_ss |
quote:
Originally posted by coeng73
Well, I went to Sears today and was able to get $103 credit per tire (for the three tires that had 34K miles on them) which I applied to the purchase of three new TTs. The manager would not let me pick a different tire brand no matter how much I pleaded my case. I think I got a pretty good deal considering.
Regarding my maintenance of the vehicle...I am very up to date on this. I had the 60K check done before summer's start and everything was fine except for a minor leak on a shock on the driver's side rear that I intend to replace in the near future. When Sears picked it up on the lift today they said that my suspension was fine and the alignment was within spec. That's why I was able to get the warranty credit.
So basically I have a new set of TT except for the drivers side left which is at 10/32. Why the laceration you ask? I have no idea. I noticed a gash one day and just felt safer replacing the tire.
Now that you have new tires, take it to a real tire shop and explain the situation. Sears keeps telling you that everything looks fine, yet you still have tire wear problems. They don't appear to have knowledgeable enough techs to diagnose the real problem. |
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| Pilot-Matt |
quote:
Originally posted by robrecht
All good tires, what kind of help do you need?
There's really no definite ratings winner on tirerack.com or CR. CR is critical in my decision making but consumer reviews are all over the place on tirerack.com with the TT's.
I have the Assurance TT's on my minivan and they work pretty well but I hope for a better response from the Fortera TT's. Price is another reason. |
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| robrecht |
quote:
Originally posted by Pilot-Matt
There's really no definite ratings winner on tirerack.com or CR. CR is critical in my decision making but consumer reviews are all over the place on tirerack.com with the TT's.
I have the Assurance TT's on my minivan and they work pretty well but I hope for a better response from the Fortera TT's. Price is another reason.
Don't rely too much on the user surveys on Tire Rack since they are not objective head-to-head comparisons.
These partial test results are based on objective head-to-head comparisons of the Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenzas, the GY Fortera TripleTreds, and the Michelin CTs. They're all great tires with virtually identical overall ratings, but note that the Bridgestones have a little better braking in wet and dry conditions. I expect the newer Michelins LTX MS or Latitude Touring are better than the CTs and they are more expensive, but one thing I like about the CTs is they're lightweight, which could provide better handling on rough roads and perhaps a little better fuel economy, but the latter is debatable.
When I last reviewed these tires, it was a tough decision to try and find a clear advantage of one over the others.
Don't know if CR has done a more recent comprehensive comparison, but here's some CR ratings dating back to October 2004 that I've posted here previously. Note that the GYs compared here are the older Fortera HLs, whose tread pattern is similar to the the SilentArmors but without the kevlar and with shorter treadlife. I expect the TripleTreds to be a little louder but to have better performance in rain, snow, and some ice. |
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| jl_ss |
quote:
Originally posted by Pilot-Matt
I have 50k on my OEM Not-so-Goodyears and I'm ready to make the leap into the new tire realm. My mind is in a state of confusion researching the proper tire for our all-season Ohio road conditions. I'm torn between the TT's, the Michelin LTX M/S & CT's, and the Bridgestone Dueler H/L Alenza's.
Sombody help me!!!
:D
Our Pilot came with the OEM Bridgestone Dueler H/Ts. It now has the TTs. I've also had the CTs on our MDX. Snow performance is my main criteria - the CTs were not confidence inspiring in the snow. The TT's are great in the snow and the Bridgestones weren't too bad but weren't as good as the TT's. |
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| Pilot-Matt |
| Thanks for all the input, i've been leaning toward the TT's. It's great to get critical responses to weigh in the selection for the appropriate tire for the Pilot. |
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