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Ziploc
I'm normally VERY careful with email, always being cautious in regard to opening any message I'm uncertain about, especially attachments. But spam is getting increasingly devious. I fell for the PayPal Virus yesterday; thankfully, McAffee flagged it, and I THINK I got rid of it. So this morning, I see that Yahoo carried the below story:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm..._pcworld/113478

Wish I had seen that just a little sooner!

Anyway, a word to the wise!
colorider
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Originally posted by Ziploc
I'm normally VERY careful with email, always being cautious in regard to opening any message I'm uncertain about, especially attachments. But spam is getting increasingly devious. I fell for the PayPal Virus yesterday; thankfully, McAffee flagged it, and I THINK I got rid of it. So this morning, I see that Yahoo carried the below story:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm..._pcworld/113478

Wish I had seen that just a little sooner!

Anyway, a word to the wise!



Thanks for the "heads-up"!!!! Several people on my motorcycle list have received it too. Scary stuff!!!
sfhondapilot
I received a similar email in connection with my Yahoo Wallet. Didn't bother responding to the email cause I figure if the credit card's expired, I'll simply renew the next time I use my Yahoo wallett and I am sure that I am on the right site.
kadiir
Never trust an html email - always look at the source html before clicking on any links. Also, you shouldn't open attachments until you know what they are (even if they come from people known to you). Also, beware of eml (Outlook Express mail message) attachments. I refuse to open them. I still get one occassionally at work (forwarded by an internal employee from a vendor or partner company usually) and I tell the sender to either copy paste the text contents of the message or read it to me. Everyone acts surprised that I take such precautions.

I've been using a PC since '91 and have only gotten 2 viruses - the first time my wife (then girlfriend) infected my system (she was working on a word doc at a friends house & brought it over to work on at my place without telling me - I would have scanned the floppy first). At least it was only a word macro virus.

The other time I broke my own rule - don't run new executables for a week or two (giving AV definititions time to catch up) and I got a "zero day" virus.

Thankfully, in the latter case, my other precautions prevented any damage or further spread of the virus (I don't normally logon to my system with admin privledges, so the virus wasn't able to fully infect the registry and that stopped it in its tracks).

Of course, you could also avoid getting an email-transmitted virus by not using a buggy, hole-ridden email client (for example, Outlook or Outlook Express). I use Pegasus, fyi (it's free). Also, if you use yahoo or other web-based email, turn off html in the emails if possible. Those sites usually catch viruses but not always.

kad
N_Jay
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Originally posted by kadiir

I've been using a PC since '91



A Newbie, I see!:2: :2: :2: :2:
ramirami
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Originally posted by N_Jay
A Newbie, I see!:2: :2: :2: :2:


missed the entire first decade ;)
SteveLuman
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Originally posted by ramirami
missed the entire first decade ;)


He didn't get to play with the Apple IIe.
jay
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Originally posted by SteveLuman
He didn't get to play with the Apple IIe.
My first PC was an Apple IIc, which I bought in '84.:D
N_Jay
My first computer was a PC/XT Clone I built in '84.

Before that was playing with friends "Super Board Apple 1", and stealing time share access.
kadiir
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Originally posted by N_Jay
A Newbie, I see!:2: :2: :2: :2:


Yes, just a pup, but I have been using personal computers (by using the term PC earlier I meant x86 architecture) since about 1979 (when I was 10).

kad
kadiir
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Originally posted by SteveLuman
He didn't get to play with the Apple IIe.


Actually, I did - that was the first computer my parents bought me :D But, we didn't have the cool looking floppy drives - we had to original shoebox-sized ones :rolleyes:

My next door neighbor's step-dad was a computer nut & had an Apple II and II+ (where I started this frustratingly rewarding hobby).

kad
kadiir
Oh, I was a late-comer to the internet, though - '94 (just as mosaic was being released). I was "online" (via CompuServe) starting in 91, though.

kad
mcardle
With a casette player instead of a floppy. My dad is an old-school computer guy and he told me I could learn about computers better with a Trash-80 than an Apple. Of course, I just wanted to play games and use the cool programs like we had at school, so I wanted an Apple and rarely used the TRS.

I really wish I would have listened... and then cashed out my stock options about 2000.
robrecht
I must be pretty old! I tought myself how to use an abacus when I was a kid and my Dad taught me how to use a slide rule. I also remember when simple 4-function calculators started to replace adding machines and were considered cheap at $100. When I was in college, word processing was simpler--just find a girlfriend who could type late at night. For computers, we punched out and stacked up those cards for Fortran--God forbid if they fell on the floor and you had to reorder them. My slide rule never got a virus, but it didn't get me many dates either!
ramirami
quote:
Originally posted by kadiir
Actually, I did - that was the first computer my parents bought me :D But, we didn't have the cool looking floppy drives - we had to original shoebox-sized ones :rolleyes:

My next door neighbor's step-dad was a computer nut & had an Apple II and II+ (where I started this frustratingly rewarding hobby).

kad



aah...the 8.5 inch floppys (which where actually floppy :2: )...wernt to 5.25inch to 3.5in and now floppies are going away...
jay
quote:
Originally posted by robrecht
I must be pretty old! I tought myself how to use an abacus when I was a kid and my Dad taught me how to use a slide rule. I also remember when simple 4-function calculators started to replace adding machines and were considered cheap at $100. When I was in college, word processing was simpler--just find a girlfriend who could type late at night. For computers, we punched out and stacked up those cards for Fortran--God forbid if they fell on the floor and you had to reorder them. My slide rule never got a virus, but it didn't get me many dates either!
I remember using a slide rule in 10th grade Chemistry. I was always getting points taken off for not getting the answer down to so many places after the decimal. What a pain in the butt.:(
robrecht
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Originally posted by jay
I remember using a slide rule in 10th grade Chemistry. ...


Straight or circular? My Dad taught me on a straight one, but in HS Chemistry we got these little pocket circular ones that had the periodic table on the back and a slide out guide to conversion factors. I still have mine! Somewhere.
jay
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Originally posted by robrecht
Straight or circular?
Straight, but every day I wanted to make it circular!:rolleyes:
74PILOTMOM
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Originally posted by Ziploc
I'm normally VERY careful with email, always being cautious in regard to opening any message I'm uncertain about, especially attachments. But spam is getting increasingly devious. I fell for the PayPal Virus yesterday; thankfully, McAffee flagged it, and I THINK I got rid of it. So this morning, I see that Yahoo carried the below story:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tm..._pcworld/113478

Wish I had seen that just a little sooner!

Anyway, a word to the wise!



I got this a while back, and reported it to pay pal. I've also gotten the basic fake ebay email twice now that asks for your information. Pay Pal never sent anything back to me, and Ebay wrote back twice within 4 minutes telling me thank you for reporting the fraud, and that it absolutely is not from ebay. I don't know if being an ebay seller like me makes me more of a target or not, but I can imagine people that aren't familiar with ebay and paypal policies may open them right up and submit info. Scary.

Old dinosaurs! I programmed games on the old commodore 64 whin I was ten and "downloaded" them onto a normal cassette tape. I also worked on a Perkin Elmer system while in the air force. This thing is from the 60's and uses magnetic tape on huge reels. Good high tech training from the usaf tech school;)
I remember the huge floppy's that were actually floppy too...this is funny! I remember thinking how hightech these things were, too. I was a child of the 80's..I can also sing the rap to "Fresh Prince of Bel-Air" :2:
jay
Well, since we've totally hijacked this thread, the greatest computer related pleasure I've had was to be in a conference room in the company of Admiral Grace Hopper when we both worked at Digital Equipment Corporation. Just a few years earlier, she was just a picture and a few paragraphs in my History of MIS textbook, and here I was in the presence of a Computing legend.:p
Twinkie
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Originally posted by N_Jay
A Newbie, I see!:2: :2: :2: :2:


This was my first 'computer'. Check out this bad boy. State of the art 1.79MHZ 8 bit processor, 32K RAM, and capable of producing 128 colors. Sprung the extra $600 for the sleek 5.25" external disk drive. I spent my allowance on Elephant brand 5.25 disks. Pulled this out of the attic a couple of years ago and it fired right up.
ramirami
since we are now talking about first computers...my first computer was teh BBC micro computer from Acorn. Check it out here .

It used the 6502 chipset shared by AppleII, commodore etc
colorider
quote:
Originally posted by robrecht
I must be pretty old! I tought myself how to use an abacus when I was a kid and my Dad taught me how to use a slide rule. I also remember when simple 4-function calculators started to replace adding machines and were considered cheap at $100. When I was in college, word processing was simpler--just find a girlfriend who could type late at night. For computers, we punched out and stacked up those cards for Fortran--God forbid if they fell on the floor and you had to reorder them. My slide rule never got a virus, but it didn't get me many dates either!


My first 4-function was a TI-2500 and cost me $120!!!!

But then, I bought it when I was only 10!!!

(the first liar NEVER stands a chance)

:2:
robrecht
quote:
Originally posted by colorider
My first 4-function was a TI-2500 and cost me $120!!!!

But then, I bought it when I was only 10!!!

(the first liar NEVER stands a chance)

:2:



I don't understand. Is someone being called a liar here? Oh, now I get it, you're trying to lie about your age, you old coot! Spelling?
kemosabe
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Originally posted by colorider
My first 4-function was a TI-2500 and cost me $120!!!!

But then, I bought it when I was only 10!!!

(the first liar NEVER stands a chance)

:2:



When colorider bought his first computer at the age of 10, it was the Bedrock model from Fred & Barney... :p
74PILOTMOM
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colorider
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Originally posted by kemosabe
When colorider bought his first computer at the age of 10, it was the Bedrock model from Fred & Barney... :p


Nope - that is not the model I had. Mine had one of those amber colored screens and the name on it was Commodore!!! :cool:
mooz
Hah. You got nuthin. I built pong games in the valley when it was nuthin but apricot trees.
FLPilot
I have also gotten these kinds of email, but mine have all gotten filtered out by my spam filter (Spamnet). I have gotten the Paypal, ebay, and yahoo....all asking to update your credit card. All I can say is never click on the links! If you feel that it might be real, then go to the website yourself by typing it in the address bar.

Now back to these old puters....I remember using the Apple IIc's in elementary school. Man those green screens with blinking green box (cursor) were such an eye soar.
N_Jay
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Originally posted by FLPilot
I remember using the Apple IIc's in elementary school. Man those green screens with blinking green box (cursor) were such an eye soar.


Stop trying to make me feel old!:3:

:2: :2: :2:
FLPilot
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Originally posted by N_Jay
Stop trying to make me feel old!:3:

:2: :2: :2:



Hey I know what you mean.....I'm turning 28 next year. :15:
74PILOTMOM
DAMN! I thought me and Ramirami were the babies!
FLPilot
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Originally posted by 74PILOTMOM
DAMN! I thought me and Ramirami were the babies!


Nope, you're not the only ones. Actually if I remember correctly, there was someone in his teens, maybe even in high school. Talk about a young'in.
kemosabe
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Originally posted by FLPilot
Nope, you're not the only ones. Actually if I remember correctly, there was someone in his teens, maybe even in high school. Talk about a young'in.


If memory serves me correctly, ImOnlyTen is our youngest member from Toronto, Canada (born June 5, 1992) and that's assuming he/she is telling the truth... :)
Ziploc
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Originally posted by kemosabe
If memory serves me correctly, ImOnlyTen is our youngest member from Toronto, Canada (born June 5, 1992) and that's assuming he/she is telling the truth... :)


Haven't seen him/her on the board in quite some time.....long overdue for user name update to ImOnlyEleven!:rolleyes:
kemosabe
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Originally posted by Ziploc
Haven't seen him/her on the board in quite some time.....long overdue for user name update to ImOnlyEleven!:rolleyes:


Actually, he/she is very active over at our sister site, acuramdx.org ---> Super Senior Member!!!
74PILOTMOM
Yeah, I was snooping at the 'X boards and saw him posting there. I figured we were just chopped liver now.
I thought of him when i saw a quick little article in c&d (easily missed) that featured a scanned childs note that read "favorite car: HoNdA PiLoT" in kids' handwriting. I thought that was sweet. Maybe it was him :)

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