| krygny |
... well, for one thing, most people would be surprised. :D
Based on the heated debate in this thread , it's apparent we have some strong opinions among Pilot owners. Now that the Democratic ticket has been solidified, and before both major national conventions, we can get an idea of where we stand as a community. Nothing scientific here, just some good clean throat-ripping fun.
Perhaps after the conventions as we get closer to the election (say, after Labor Day) we can ask a moderator to lock out the poll and start another one to see if things change much.
I thought about not including Nader but if you feel he shouldn't be in there, well, just don't vote for him (especially if you didn't know he even had a running mate). I also thought about putting in an undecided option, but I hate that because it just creates ambiguity in polls and [s]he's never been elected to office anyway. |
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| kemosabe |
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Originally posted by krygny
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Perhaps after the conventions as we get closer to the election (say, after Labor Day) we can ask a moderator to lock out the poll and start another one to see if things change much.
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Just tell one of us Mods when you would like this poll closed... :4: :17: |
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| jay |
| Anyone want to order a T-shirt? Check the Google ads from this screen capture.:p |
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| jdeanski |
| Remember you Dems, the rules have changed. No voting twice and dead members can't vote like they did in Chicago in the 60's. :14: |
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| h3xme |
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Originally posted by kemosabe
Just tell one of us Mods when you would like this poll closed... :4: :17:
Here's my vote to close this poll.
I know that politics is close to many people's heart, including mine, but I don't think it appropriate here. What's that bartender rule; never talk about politics or religion?
Now, what's this I hear about Toyota, Nissan, Hyundai, and even Yugo, being better than Honda?!!! :3: ;) :) |
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| Ziploc |
h3xme, I personally have no problem with the poll, unless the board would decide to make politics off limits period. If posters wish to revisit/continue the same debate covered in the Fahrenreit 9-11 thread, I think they should post there.
It'll be kinda fun to see how the poll shapes up, since people can "vote" without fear of or time commitment afterward to dealing with flames, criticism, or explanation. |
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| dbudds |
| We would be free from that a$$hole in the white house that much sooner! |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by dbudds
We would be free from that a$$hole in the white house that much sooner!
So much for "open minded liberals" :2: :2: :2: |
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| labow |
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Originally posted by jdeanski
Remember you Dems, the rules have changed. No voting twice and dead members can't vote like they did in Chicago in the 60's. :14:
You mean like what happened in 2000in Florida? :D |
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| Preludetundra |
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Remember you Dems, the rules have changed. No voting twice and dead members can't vote like they did in Chicago in the 60's.
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You mean like what happened in 2000in Florida?
Ain't that the truth. Now I know why it is so hard to understand jdeanski. He's always talking with one foot in his mouth. |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by labow
You mean like what happened in 2000in Florida? :D
Seems to me there were some districts reporting excessive votes in Chicago in 2000!:eek: :eek:
I am far more concerned with people voting based on Moores "facts" than I am of any "counting errors". |
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| john802 |
Can we not discuss/debate any topics in a civilized manner without being personal?;)
-john |
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| kemosabe |
| The new & improved 2004 Presidential Election voting machines have just been approved... ;) |
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| jay |
I think that the important lesson to take away from this poll is that every election is an important one, and everyone of voting age needs to register and vote. I've voted in every election that I can remember since reaching voting age (except for maybe a poorly advertised primary), including one local election for County Supervisor that was decided by 5 votes.
If you haven't registered, make that effort over the next two weeks to do so. If you are registered, make plans to vote. And make the effort to see that your neighbors who might not otherwise have a way to get to the polling place have a way to do so. After all, you have all that passenger room in your Pilot.:p |
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| kemosabe |
| Yeah, be thankful that our ballot doesn't look like anything like the former Iraqi ballot... :eek: :eek: :eek: |
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| Titans Fan |
| I want to know who's going to check all of our computer screens for "dimpled" & "hanging" chads :runaway: |
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| kemosabe |
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Originally posted by Titans Fan
I want to know who's going to check all of our computer screens for "dimpled" & "hanging" chads :runaway:
Maybe it'll be this guy... :2: |
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| jdeanski |
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Originally posted by Preludetundra
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Originally posted by jdeanski
Remember you Dems, the rules have changed. No voting twice and dead members can't vote like they did in Chicago in the 60's.
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You mean like what happened in 2000in Florida?
Ain't that the truth. Now I know why it is so hard to understand jdeanski. He's always talking with one foot in his mouth.
I'm sure you don't remember, as most newspapers buried the story deep inside but after the 2000 election many media outlets descended on Florida to do their own recounts. Their findings: in most every way the votes could be counted, Bush still won! |
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| jay |
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Originally posted by jdeanski
I'm sure you don't remember, as most newspapers buried the story deep inside but after the 2000 election many media outlets descended on Florida to do their own recounts. Their findings: in most every way the votes could be counted, Bush still won!
In most every way that THOSE votes could be counted. Also buried in those stories was the election reform and money spent on technology to prevent a recurrence. We won't even get into the p$ssing contest over the alleged dis-enfranchised, Florida or otherwise. Remember, I voted for Bush in that election, so I have no results axe to grind. I didn't want Gore as much as the next guy, but I also want a defender of our Constitution, as President Bush swore to do, in the White House. I'm not so certain that he or his assembled "team" understand the ramifications of the oath. |
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| jdeanski |
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Originally posted by jay
In most every way that THOSE votes could be counted. Also buried in those stories was the election reform and money spent on technology to prevent a recurrence. .
Well from what I've been reading those hi tech voting machines have problems too, like no paper trail! But once again don't overlook the fact that the supervisor of election in most of those contested counties were Democrats. South Florida is a Democratic bastion. Up here in North Florida, our problems were few. :D |
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| tim.s |
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Originally posted by jay
Anyone want to order a T-shirt? Check the Google ads from this screen capture.:p
It's that spiffy Google ad generator. When opened the thread, I got this ad: |
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| krygny |
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Originally posted by tim.s
It's that spiffy Google ad generator.
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Hey, now that you mention it, there are ads on these pages. I guess I don't even notice ads on web pages anymore. I must have developed some kind of subconscious neuro-visual filtration technique and not even realized it. |
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| kemosabe |
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Originally posted by krygny
Hey, now that you mention it, there are ads on these pages. I guess I don't even notice ads on web pages anymore. I must have developed some kind of subconscious neuro-visual filtration technique and not even realized it.
krygny has succumbed to Big Brother... :p |
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| krygny |
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Originally posted by kemosabe
krygny has succumbed to Big Brother... :p
Oh, it's not the web ads that concern me, it's the alien mind rays and the chip the government implanted in my head. That's why I never remove my tin foil hat. |
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| ramirami |
| can I have better choices... please |
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| krygny |
What happened to the "spirited" discussions? And c'mon - with over 7,500 members, we should be able to get a better sampling than this.
Other tidbits while I'm bumping:
Unless you've been vacationing in Antarctica, you've already seen this, but you may not have seen it full screen, and a lot of the links floating around the net are lousy.
http://atomfilms.shockwave.com/afas...h/this_land.swf
Also, get ready for a replay of the 2000 FL election on a national scale:
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&e...tnG=Search+News
There has been criticism of electronic voting from the start, some of it valid, some not. I think, mostly because it's new, you can't visually and physically see and feel the ballots, and people fear what they don't understand. Somebody explain to me what makes mechanical machines or optical scanners immune to fraud, abuse, or human error.
I imagine lawyers from both sides are right now booking their hotel rooms in south FL for November. I can see legal challenges from whatever side that loses in election districts wherever electronic voting is used. |
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| mooz |
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Originally posted by jdeanski
Well from what I've been reading those hi tech voting machines have problems too, like no paper trail! But once again don't overlook the fact that the supervisor of election in most of those contested counties were Democrats. South Florida is a Democratic bastion. Up here in North Florida, our problems were few. :D
I heard an interesting idea the other day on the radio. Use ATM machines for voting. According to the story if the accuracy of ATM machines as used for banking was applied to voting there would be one mistake in billions. Sounded like a good idea to me. |
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| krygny |
| Anybody not vote yet? (Only about 7,750 of you. :D ) Kerry has been ahead all along in this poll, but it's tightened up a bit. |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by mooz
I heard an interesting idea the other day on the radio. Use ATM machines for voting. According to the story if the accuracy of ATM machines as used for banking was applied to voting there would be one mistake in billions. Sounded like a good idea to me.
OK, now lets wait for the ACLU to explode over the concept of giving each voter a PIN. (Personal IDENTIFICATION Number).
Of course the comparison is REALLY REALLY STUPID.:eek:
For example:
1) Most people use their ATM at least several time a month, and typically vote only once a year.
2) People who are not comfortable with ATMs just don't use them, no so with voting machines.
And I can think of lots of other reasons the comparison is invalid.
Of course that would not stop a news commentator for repeating the story with out giving any deeper thought!!! :3: |
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| pilot007 |
| Does the number of "o" s in google equivalent to the number of zeros after 1 the CEO makes after being listed? |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by krygny
Anybody not vote yet? (Only about 7,750 of you. :D ) Kerry has been ahead all along in this poll, but it's tightened up a bit.
Its all "Horse Race" politics!
Polls predicting election outcomes should be illegal! |
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| Titans Fan |
This poll is totally unrealistic.:3:
No matter how hard I try, it will only let me vote once!:cursin: |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by Titans Fan
This poll is totally unrealistic.:3:
No matter how hard I try, it will only let me vote once!:cursin:
Funny? I have no trouble voting several times.
But then, I am near Chicago!:2: :2: |
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| Titans Fan |
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Originally posted by N_Jay
Funny? I have no trouble voting several times.
But then, I am near Chicago!:2: :2:
"Vote early... and vote often", eh? |
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| N_Jay |
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Originally posted by Titans Fan
"Vote early... and vote often", eh?
Vote early, vote often, and vote for your brother!:eek:
After all, he is voting for you! :4: |
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| krygny |
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Originally posted by N_Jay
Funny? I have no trouble voting several times.
But then, I am near Chicago!:2: :2:
Empty the cemetaries and get 'em registered. :D |
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