| jay |
Has anyone else experienced what appears to be an applet in someone's signature bringing your system to its knees.
Not to be pointing a finger at anyone, but more trying to figure out if it's a problem on my end or the other, any thread that FLPilot responds in or creates that I read usually causes my system response to dramatically slow, regardless of the system, O/S, or browser. I'm thinking it's the "missing children" banner in the signature.
FLPilot, I think your banner is admirable, and please don't take this as a negative. I'm just soliciting information, and in particular would like to know, other than turning off seeing sig files, if anyone else has experienced something similar, and what I can do at my end to remedy the situation. |
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| TheWorm |
On rare occassions, FLPilot's java applet will hang my 'puter. Maybe once every couple of weeks.
That's the trigger that crashes the browser, but I don't know why it happens so randomly, esp since I'm always running the same background apps, etc. :confused: |
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| robottik |
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Originally posted by jay
Has anyone else experienced what appears to be an applet in someone's signature bringing your system to its knees.
Yep my IE hangs every now and then when a java applet loads on this site. I usually have to close the browser down and start over. :( |
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| desertpilot |
| Sometimes my IE 6 crashes every week or two encountering applets on different boards, not only here. When I open a page with those kind of applets, loading Java app. slows down my computer up to about a minute or so. I'm running on Windows XP Pro with ADSL connection. |
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| kemosabe |
| I used to get the occasional browser lockup on Mozilla 1.6 so I turned off the Java capability and it's been running fine ever since -- not sure why the Applets would cause the browser to freeze, but it got old after a while so I just disabled that feature... |
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| RipRocK |
I used to experience a slight pause whenever a page with FLPilot's sig was viewed, but that was only when he had the missing children banner. One day, the familiar pauses stopped and right away I noticed FLPilot didn't display any of those java applet banners anymore.
Is he still using those banners? |
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| jay |
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Originally posted by RipRocK
I used to experience a slight pause whenever a page with FLPilot's sig was viewed, but that was only when he had the missing children banner. One day, the familiar pauses stopped and right away I noticed FLPilot didn't display any of those java applet banners anymore.
Is he still using those banners?
Yes, the banners are still there. |
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| RipRocK |
quote:
Originally posted by jay
Yes, the banners are still there.
DOH!!! Sorry jay!!!, looks as though somehow my sig view setting was changed and it was set to "No" for the "Show user's signatures in their posts" option for quite sometime now. No wonder the pages loaded so quickly :D
Having had to write a few quick and dirty java applets/scripts every now and then at work, I found that this is the shortcoming of interpreted languages, even if they're in byte code. Although, Python never displays such symptoms...but that's another story.
Even the latest and quickest computers will experience some kind of pause or freeze while the JVM/java virtual machine takes in the script and spits out the intended result.
Poorly written ones will actually crash the browser, if not the OS itself (never Linux though!!). IE, despite MS' claims that their own JVM being more efficient and advanced than SUN's own, will experience more of the pauses and the freezes than with other browsers, such as Mozilla/Firefox or Opera.
Just in case you're using IE, got to www.mozilla.org and check out what they have to offer. |
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| jay |
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Originally posted by RipRocK
DOH!!! Sorry jay!!!, looks as though somehow my sig view setting was changed and it was set to "No" for the "Show user's signatures in their posts" option for quite sometime now. No wonder the pages loaded so quickly :D
Having had to write a few quick and dirty java applets/scripts every now and then at work, I found that this is the shortcoming of interpreted languages, even if they're in byte code. Although, Python never displays such symptoms...but that's another story.
Even the latest and quickest computers will experience some kind of pause or freeze while the JVM/java virtual machine takes in the script and spits out the intended result.
Poorly written ones will actually crash the browser, if not the OS (never Linux though!!) itself. IE, despite MS' claims that their own JVM being more efficient and advanced than SUN's own, will experience more of the pauses and the freezes than with other browsers, such as Mozilla/Firefox or Opera.
Just in case you're using IE, got to www.mozilla.org and check out what they have to offer.
No IE here. It's Safari, Mozilla or Netscape for me.:p |
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| RipRocK |
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Originally posted by jay
No IE here. It's Safari, Mozilla or Netscape for me.:p
Awesome, awesome, jay!!! that's good to hear. But, even my Mozilla Firefox gets bogged down every time I view a thread with a java applet in it, so it's not unique to you. |
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| FLPilot |
Sorry for the problems guys and sorry I didn't see your post earlier Jay. I work a lot with children and protecting children online so I take a special interest in kids. Whether it be trying to keep them out of danger or trying to find them, I am always there, but I also don't want to crash a site or peoples computers for it. Thanks for your honesty.
As of a few minutes ago the banner should be gone. |
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| rtresco |
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Originally posted by FLPilot
Sorry for the problems guys and sorry I didn't see your post earlier Jay. I work a lot with children and protecting children online so I take a special interest in kids. Whether it be trying to keep them out of danger or trying to find them, I am always there, but I also don't want to crash a site or peoples computers for it. Thanks for your honesty.
As of a few minutes ago the banner should be gone.
Hey FLPilot , why don't you just add a link in your sig to the missing children's website? |
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| jay |
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Originally posted by FLPilot
Sorry for the problems guys and sorry I didn't see your post earlier Jay. I work a lot with children and protecting children online so I take a special interest in kids. Whether it be trying to keep them out of danger or trying to find them, I am always there, but I also don't want to crash a site or peoples computers for it. Thanks for your honesty.
As of a few minutes ago the banner should be gone.
I'd like to think that there's some other way to resolve this, but really appreciate your understanding, FLPilot.:( |
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| jay |
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Originally posted by rtresco
Hey FLPilot , why don't you just add a link in your sig to the missing children's website?
I musta been getting brain waves from Houston, as I was debating putting that in my post above.:p
The company I work has done a lot to support the National Center for Missing & Exploited Children. |
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| john802 |
I think the suggestion of rtresco is a good compromise for both sides. I myself is very interested and support any agency that takes care of the flight of the missing children.
-john |
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| TheWorm |
| Maybe they have (or could develop) a non-Java banner for the sig line. It's obviously a good cause, but it seems that they'd be having the same software/crash issues for everyone using that particular one. |
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| rtresco |
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Originally posted by TheWorm
Maybe they have (or could develop) a non-Java banner for the sig line. It's obviously a good cause, but it seems that they'd be having the same software/crash issues for everyone using that particular one.
missingkids.org has link banners available here.
But, more like you are saying, it would be nice point to an img url that returns an image with a specific child's info. A much more lightweight alternative to Java, and just as useful. |
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| FLPilot |
| No problem Jay. The only reason I won't put the link alone is that no one is going to hit the link to go to a page and look through pictures. The rolling pictures of missing children serves as two purposes. First it reminds us all to be vigilant and make sure we do the most we can to protect our children. The second thing it does is shows current missing children. Who knows, someone might have gone out shopping and saw the kid somewhere in public. Again I now know the problems it has caused so it's not a big deal. I just like posting missing children as much as I can. |
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| TheWorm |
Even if they could create a banner using an animated GIF rather than the java, that would solve the problem. You'd not have access to the "unlimited" database of kids they're undoubtedly pulling from, but they could rotate the GIFs and provide some visibility to the cause (and missing children).
I would have to think they'd be interested in tracking down and fixing the java app problem as soon as possible.
Unfortunately, on my machine (IE6 on Win98SE) it's just a total hang. Not even a blue screen of death or anything else with specific error information. |
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